What am I missing

United States
September 6, 2008 10:29pm CST
I have listened to John McCain during the republican convention say that he is a Maverick, and a has the experience to lead the country. The question I have is how can you be considered a Mavrick when you voted along your party lines for the last 4 years, voting with the leader of your party 90% of the time. I have researched Mr. McCain's experience both before he ran for office, and after he was elected. I have asked many people on mylot to explain to me what experience he really has to run the country. Everyone that I have asked on here has not been able to give me an example of this experience that makes him so much more qualified than Barack Obama. I really would like for someone on here to give me facts prove he is more qualified.
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• United States
8 Sep 08
IF he was ever a Maverick it was before we were born, and I am not that young.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
7 Sep 08
You're missing- that McCain was considered a "maverick" 10 plus years ago, and if the left side goes by the conservative way of thinking his "maverick" label is considered irrelevent because it was over a year ago.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
7 Sep 08
How can a candidate of change be a man who votes along party line 97% of the time? McCain may have voted along party lines heavily over the last eight years, but he has a history of working across the aisle. The American Conservative Union has rated him as low as 65, while the Americans for Democratic action have rated him as high as 40. 2007 numbers are as follows although the ADA includes this disclaimer: Senators such as Clinton, Obama and McCain all missed a substantial number of votes, thus their final score will be lower than normal. Obama missed 5 votes rated by the ADA. On every vote he placed in 2007 he voted with his party. McCain missed 12 votes on the issues rated by the ADA. On those he place 2 were with democrats, 6 were against. This is certainly more maverick than the man who didn't vote against his party at all. Obama 75 McCain 10 The ACU gave the following scores: Obama 7 McCain 80 There was not a specific list of votes to see which were missed and how they were rated. http://www.adaction.org/media/votingrecords/2007.pdf http://www.acuratings.org/2007all.htm#IL
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• United States
7 Sep 08
Taskr proves that the anti-Obama crowd can sure go on and on about Obama, but when it comes to speaking of the virtues of their own (supposed) candidate, they've got nothing. Also, the funny thing is that Taskr says that Obama votes "along party line" a lot, and then asks how he can be a candidate of change? In case you haven't noticed, Taskr, the "party" you're referring to is NOT the party that's been in power the last eight years. Sounds like a change to me. Obama worked with Republicans on issues like nuclear non-proliferation, and government transparency. www.usaspending.gov is a direct 'fruit' of his work across party lines. His history of working across party lines is well-documented, despite your attempts to pretend it doesn't exist. Take notice at how I can speak positively of my candidate without bashing yours, Taskr. Are you capable of that? :) Your reliance on smears instead of intelligently answering the question perfectly exemplifies the kind of politics that Obama wants to do away with once and for all like the unproductive garbage it is.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
7 Sep 08
"Taskr proves that the anti-Obama crowd can sure go on and on about Obama, but when it comes to speaking of the virtues of their own (supposed) candidate, they've got nothing." I showed his virtues quite well by demonstrating that he'd been rated as high as 40 by the ADA which is almost unheard of for a republican. I also pointed out how low he'd been rated by his own party showing his willingness to oppose his party when he thought it was necessary. "Also, the funny thing is that Taskr says that Obama votes "along party line" a lot, and then asks how he can be a candidate of change? In case you haven't noticed, Taskr, the "party" you're referring to is NOT the party that's been in power the last eight years. Sounds like a change to me." If that's your argument than any random democrat could fit the bill and Obama would be no more change than Howard Dean or Tom Daschle. Obama has touted how he can work across party lines yet he hasn't done it a single time during 2007 when he began his presidential run. "Obama worked with Republicans on issues like nuclear non-proliferation, and government transparency. www.usaspending.gov is a direct 'fruit' of his work across party lines. His history of working across party lines is well-documented, despite your attempts to pretend it doesn't exist." I didn't claim that he never has, I was merely pointing out last years numbers. In 2006 the ACU rated him an 8, so clearly that 7 he had in 2007 was a fluke. "Take notice at how I can speak positively of my candidate without bashing yours, Taskr. Are you capable of that?:) Your reliance on smears instead of intelligently answering the question perfectly exemplifies the kind of politics that Obama wants to do away with once and for all like the unproductive garbage it is." I didn't use any smears nor did I do any bashing. I used facts. I didn't use one-sided sources as you love to do either. I provided numbers from both parties to show exactly how each side views the candidates. How much more intelligently can I answer the question than to provide such specific numbers and include links to the appropriate sources in the event that anyone wants to check my claims or investigate prior years to see that my historical numbers are appropriate? Continue attacking me Clarus. If personal insults come easier than intelligently refuting or debating my claims, by all means. If Obama wants to do away with the tracking of votes by two equally balanced organizations then I'm quite sure those are not the politics I would support. I'll stick to that unproductive garbage known as facts. You can stick to the bashing and rumor spreading.
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• United States
7 Sep 08
Thank you for responding Taskr. You are missing the point that we have had eight years of Bush/Cheney, that is the change that Barack Obama is referring to. We have had eight years of a lack luster economy, and poll after poll show that the American people aren't better off today than they were before Bush came into office. The current redistribution of wealth is destroying lower and middle class Americans and McCain/Palin will do everything they can to continue the failed Bush policies. He even challenged republicans to test his conservative voting record, and the number of times he supported George W. Bush (in the 80 - 90% of the time). McCain was quoted as saying things are tough now, but we are better off than in 2000 (this was in Jan. 2008. I guess if you are a multi-millionaire like McCain, than you are MUCH better off today than in 2000). I know the American people are dying for a change, if you look at the approval numbers for Sarah Palin on Friday than you see the proof. With that being said, once they hear about her past history of earmarks, and the truth about her convention speech, the American people will see the truth, and her numbers will fall like a lead ballon. Barack is different from Bush/Cheney, and that is what the American people want, and need. McCain/Palin have already said they would continue Bush's war, his tax policies, his energy policy (or lack there of), and the largest redistribution of wealth in our countries history, and the American people can't afford this anymore. This is the change that the American people are talking about, many remember that Clinton days, and these sure aren't the Clinton days.
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