GITMO Complies with The Geneva Convention...
By ParaTed2k
@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
March 24, 2009 8:49am CST
The incompetent press made huge headlines from Prs. Obama's order to the Defense Department to come up with plans to close the terrorist detainment camp. What they didn't report is that Prs. Obama also ordered an in-depth study of the camp, including the treatment of detainees.
What the study found is that the US Military complies completely with the terms of The Geneva Convention. The Detainees are treated with respect and diginity. It went on to say that there is no guarantee that closing the camp will help the Detainees because where they may be sent probably won't be as humane an environment.
Prs. Bush messed up when he classified the detainees as such instead of Enemy Prisoners of War (EPW). His stated purpose was so that the US wouldn't have to afford them the rights and protections of The Geneva Convention. As it turned out, because of political pressure, the detainees have been given all the rights and protections anyway.
The irony is, if Bush had of classified them as EPW's from the beginning, most of what his detractors have been demanding would be illegal. None of them could be given trials and the US wouldn't have to release any of them until 6 months after the war.
In other words, if the Bash Bush Bus got their way, they would be calling for Bush to be the war criminal their delusions accuse him of being.
http://www.newsmax.com/politics/obama_guantanamo_bay_/2009/02/23/184527.html
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@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
24 Mar 09
If the bush opponents and the press would have read the Geneva Convention it clearly states several different categories. A POW is a person who is in in a recognized Military Unit, in Uniform and fighting for the Country you are attacking. A Civilian who is not in uniform and is fighting the attack is considered an enemy combatant and is afforded certain protections, not as much as as a POW. There there are illegal enemy combatants. these are people who are not from the country being attacked, are not in the military and are caught fighting the attackers or with weapons. They have no right and it is up to the capturing party to decide what to do and how to treat them. In the case of the Iraq war POW would be soldiers in the Iraqi Armed Forces. Enemy Combatants would be Iraqi Civilians fighting against the occupation such as Al Sadar forces. The Iraq government could charge them with being rebels. Those people fighting who were not from Iraq fighting against the invasion or the new government would be Illegal Enemy Combatants. According to some interpretations of the Geneva Convention we could have taken them out and shot them and it would have been legal. We could torture them and hold them for as long as we wanted to with out recourse. The Red Cross or Red Crescent could not visit them unless we wanted them to. They RC had the right to visit the POW only. The POW were to be fed the same or equivalent food as the US Troops - not special diets.
By not using the terms Enemy Combatants or Illegal Enemy Combatants President Obama is showing his ignorance of International Treaties and legal agreements. These are not your Politically Correct terms but legal defined terms and using then wrong term can have far reaching legal consequences. Maybe he should spend less time on the NCAA tournament and more time reading the major international treaties.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
24 Mar 09
All this is true, but there is a difference between reality and politics. Prs. Bush was in his authority to classify them as he did, however, the when the political chips fell, the detainees ended up with all the rights and priveleges of a EPW anyway.
Prs. Bush would have gotten everything he wanted if he classified them unders the Geneva Convention, without the political cost.
@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
27 Mar 09
The (Bush) haters hate him (and conservatives) so much that national security (ours or others) doesn't matter, not does demonizing our own country in the eyes and ears of the world.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
25 Mar 09
Yeah, you'll never see the Obama crowd acknowledge that Obama's own investigation proved that they were abiding by the Geneva convention. You'll just keep hearing them say we tortured people because we made them listen to AC/DC, Nine inch Nails, and the Sesame Street theme song. The simple fact is, those terrorists received far better treatment and a better quality of life than most American citizens currently incarcerated in our prisons.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
26 Mar 09
I'm still waiting for any Obamabot to point out a single case of abuse of any detainee at GITMO in the last 5 years.



