what is with this 'no touching' thing one school is implenting??
By mommyboo
@mommyboo (13174)
United States
March 31, 2009 12:00pm CST
I am watching something about it right now on cnn. Forgive me if someone else already posted a thread, I did a search and it didn't return anything.
This sickens me! Kids can LEARN what they need to as far as state standards at home in their jammies doing online courses. The in person draw of a classroom and school in a traditional sense is very social, whether school personnel want to acknowledge that or not.
While it should never be okay to threaten, persecute, harrass or bully another student, it should also not be ok to forbid students from hugging, high fiving, and other NORMAL social interactions. People need physical contact, there are studies that babies who are held and touched suffer and do not grow, mentally as well as physically.
If you told me I couldn't touch my friends, screw you, I would do it anyway. I already freely ignore people who have issues with pda, if you don't like it, don't look at me. I'm not going to not kiss my husband or not hug my daughter in front of you because it bothers you. Find something more acceptable to be bothered by.
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
31 Mar 09
I'm speechless. (Almost)
What kind of idiot would do this to children? They should be prosecuted for child abuse. To not let a child even touch his friends? Swat each other on the back? Hold hands? This is about the ultimate in stupidity. It's abuse.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
31 Mar 09
It sounds abusive to me too. I wouldn't comply with it either way but I was shocked to see some people (calling in to CNN) actually weren't even bothered that much by it. Of course maybe these are people with grown kids or NO kids.... so no accounting for the actual demographics it would be affecting!
I'm sure the KIDS themselves would be horrified! I'm a PARENT and I'm horrified.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
1 Apr 09
See, this is what's not okay about this. In THE REAL WORLD, there is nothing wrong with touching other people. Obviously it is not okay to harrass, bully, hit, and assault other people but that goes without saying, doesn't it?
It makes little sense to have one rule at a school that doesn't apply anywhere else - besides, I don't see it working even if they try to enforce it.
Hmmm, and as far as that community service bs? Here's the finger. lol.
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@PrarieStyle (2486)
• United States
31 Mar 09
They'll probably have to do extra time in the voluntary, mandatory military civilian service.

@34momma (13882)
• United States
31 Mar 09
WHAT!!!
Wow there is always something you know! I think if they are serious about this they are out of their minds crazy! to tell children that they are not allowed to touch each other is just down right crazy! no hugging, what the hell is going on???? this kind of nonsense will never get very far thank goodness, it's just to stupid. but to think that someone had the time and the stupidity to think this up is just nuts
Wow there is always something you know! I think if they are serious about this they are out of their minds crazy! to tell children that they are not allowed to touch each other is just down right crazy! no hugging, what the hell is going on???? this kind of nonsense will never get very far thank goodness, it's just to stupid. but to think that someone had the time and the stupidity to think this up is just nuts2 people like this
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
31 Mar 09
I wish there was some recourse - if some policy gets enacted which is so stupid that it bothers the majority, the majority should be able to trace it back to the source and get the source fired and the policy revoked immediately. If people coming up with this crap knew they would lose their jobs and then never be able to work in that capacity again, maybe they'd THINK before coming up with it....
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
31 Mar 09
I did see another thread about this yesterday, but I didn't get around to responding to it. Didn't have my thoughts totally together.
What I'm wondering right now is how the heck kids are supposed to learn the difference between inappropriate touching and appropriate touching if NO touching at all is allowed!
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
31 Mar 09
It sends the wrong message first of all.... and also it shifts normal social behaviors into a 'right and wrong' policy and rule thing - where it's not even something that's WRONG in real life!! For God's sake, what is going to happen next? Each person with their microchip implanted code sitting in their own little separate bubbles not allowed to talk to other people, monitored by gps by the government and if you don't want to do something, they override your bubble and drag you kicking and screaming?
I just can't believe some of the stuff that actually gets implemented. I have always harbored ideas that anybody who gets into power is crazy, but now I KNOW it's true.
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
1 Apr 09
Hi mommyboo! I have not heard this newest thing yet! I don't
really understand it unless it is because they are trying to
keep the problems of other types of physical violence or
physical touching that they feel is improper under control
by forbiding any touching! It doesn't quite sit well with me
either, but if that is what they are trying to do to control
certain types of touching then maybe that is the only way
they know how to do it! I wouldn't want to be the one to make
this particular call! I can understand it to an extent. Maybe,
the just don't want the pda's of the kids to get out of control.
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@cynthiann (18612)
• Jamaica
31 Mar 09
I agree with you one hundred percent. We all need to be touched. Not just children but adults too. You are so right about babies needing touch - I have read so much on this. We ar social creatures. My daughter tells me that there are cameras in each classroom and you have to be so careful in touching a child in the USA. But a quick hug or a press on the shoulder whilst saying :Good jovb" or 'Well done' is what children crave for.
Last Sunday, I visited a yong women who is dying of cancer. She is a friend and also goes to my Church. We held her and stroked her handds and head and told her how much she is lived. she wanted physical contact from her firiends. She needed this and told us so. she is leavinga 13 year old son and now her husband has been diagnosed with cancer. All we could do was hold her - at her request.
I was always very toucvhy with my four children and likewise with my grands. No one will stop me from hugging or kissing them as long as it is acceptable to them. They come to me for hugs and cuddles. God help us.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
31 Mar 09
Yes we do! I don't know what is going on with that school but the people responsible for this are awful people and I almost wish as a result they could be ignored and not touched for the rest of their lives just so they get an idea of how hurtful and unacceptable this is.
Obviously like I said - as long as there are policies which have absolutely NO tolerance for any type of harrassment, bullying, attacking, or threatening, there is no need to go so far as to say 'because we cannot stop the harrassment, bullying, attacking, or threatening, we are going to tell you that you cannot touch other people'.
This is like punishing all the kids, the good kids included - for something which is not their fault. This is the adults throwing up their hands and saying that they can't stop bullying and behavior problems - but that is WHY the adults are there and that is WHAT the adults should be doing, not turning it around and saying 'uh, we can't do anything so we are going to punish all of your kids'. How futile and sad that we are so uncreative as adults...
One of the best ways to enjoy a friendship and the company of others is thru hugs and sense of touch, making it 'against the rules' will suddenly make a lot of good kids 'bad kids'. I know I would never tell my daughter that it's not okay to touch her friends, and I don't go along with things that have no basis in reasonableness and reality. I have the right to oppose and the right to be against something so ridiculous.
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@Pleiades (846)
• United States
31 Mar 09
Very true. Children are huggers and affectionate people by nature, you can't take that away from them. Now, if Jack is touching Jill in places he ought not to, then take care of that issue but don't think the whole group of children are going to do it.Girls love to hang out together, hold hands and be insperable. What are they going to do? Say they're going to grow up to be lesbians? Not really. Boys that high five each other are going to be bullies? No.
I remember when I was pregnant with my last child and everytime he had a kicking fit, I'd just rub my belly and touch his legs...and he calmed down. Even now, after a year later after he was born and he's fussy, I just rub his face and he smiles and calms.
How else is a child going to know how to reach out and help people? I think some people go way overboard with the intentions of children. Perhaps it's the adults that are thinking such things....but I know there are some children that are active at an early age but that's where the eyes of the staff must come in.
I'm sorry if this answer is so mumbled together...having two babies hanging on me makes me quite distracted.
*Pleiades
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
31 Mar 09
I realized reading thru that I had made a mistake and it should say 'babies that AREN'T touched and held'. I just think it's rotten that some jerk who doesn't like to be touched and doesn't like pda is probably the type of person behind this whole idea in the first place.
I ALWAYS held hands with my friends when I was little - and come to think of it, when you had buddies in school, you were supposed to hold hands. Also, you're supposed to line up and hold on to the person in front of you sometimes, or hold a hand to cross the street.... so what, are they going to tell the adults they can't hold a kid's hand either?
My daughter is snuggly and she is also like me in that she is touchy-feely with her friends. She hugs people who are sad to comfort them, and she is always willing to hold the hand of a younger child to keep them from running out in a parking lot or public place until I can do it. I think it is a great disservice to our kids to start telling them 'you are not allowed to touch other people'.
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@PrarieStyle (2486)
• United States
31 Mar 09
I wish the schools would pay more attention to the lies many of the Liberal teachers are teaching our children instead of worrying about foolish things like this.
@wonttakelong (3555)
• United States
1 Apr 09
I am on the fence on this one
I think that making the rule "No contact" is wrong especially for the younger kids
my grade schoolers love their teachers and often hug them
all my kids hug their friends and whatnot
i dont see anything wrong with that
they should state the rules as "no explicit PDA such as kissing, petting, etc"
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@rebelmel (1386)
• United States
1 Apr 09
That is a bit ridiculous. I understand to an extent where they are coming from with this, because of bullies and whatnot, but it is absurd to tell kids they cannot touch eachother, for a hug or high five. Kids that are not hugged or loved show signs of it as they grow older.
@luvmysons (497)
• United States
1 Apr 09
I agree with you... That is just ridiculous.. I would not be ok with that.. What school and where is it. this is actually the first I am hearing about that.. These kids will end up with social problems.. Kids interact by hugging, high fiving and even giving a little punch in the arm. What a shame
@blion23 (403)
• United States
31 Mar 09
I say another discussion about this the other day. I agree with you it is incredibly stupid. Children need to learn the importance of touch because it creates bonding and teaches what is appropriate and what is not. If I could not touch my wife or my children in any way, it would be a disaster. I think that they need to lift this rule and make touching allowed because of how important it is for the growth of today's youth. Good luck!












