Do you Leap Frog in Helium?
By mommaj
@mommaj (23112)
United States
May 7, 2009 8:22am CST
Helium has this option that if an article is ranked really low you can rewrite it or fix it by using a leap frog. If you leapfrog and rewrite the article once can you rewrite it again later? I have never used this option but it looks like I might want to for one of my articles on Helium. I think if I can get it higher in ranking I might be able to obtain a writing star for a couple of days. LOL anyone who has read my Helium discussions I will get a star and by the end of the week it will be gone. I can't see where anything has changed much but obviously it did. Let me know if you leapfrog and if you think it's a good idea. Also let me know if you can use a leapfrog on the same article more than once. Thanks.
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6 responses
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
7 May 09
Hi Mommaj, there is another way to improve on your writing score, without leapfroging your current articles.
You can find those popular titles under Arts and Humanities (particular Philosophy) or Society and Lifestyle (particularly Morals, values and norms).
Choose a very popular title, meaning those titles with more than a hundred articles. Once your article is ranked near the top, it will improve your writing score.
For example, your article is rank 9/123. The writing score is more than 90% for this particular article. It will push the average writing score of all the articles up.
There are a lot of titles about money and love, relationship etc.
Just hope that your article do not dethrone mine!
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
7 May 09
I like to write to debate topics when I need a writing star ranking boost. I guess that I am very argumentative, so debates work well for me. And that is what it is really all about. You can have two articles, both well-written, but the one that has passion behind it will usually get higher.
On the whole, I agree with trying to avoid a first person POV in anything except testimonials, product reviews and memory-relating articles. It makes it hard to review them, for one thing... I hate to rank someone's personal experience as being less important that that of another person.
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
7 May 09
Hi Mommaj, do not worry about low ranking.
From observing my articles ranking in Helium, apparently your article is ranked in the 50%, then rate against the article in 25%, once your article is rated as better, it will go up to 25%. It will take about 4 days for the rating to stabilise.
Actually it is much easier to get a high ranking for popular titles, because you can read the first few articles and learn the writing style.
The first few paragraphs are very important, must touch the heart of the readers, especially for those love and money articles.
Constant-Content is very strict on grammar. The grammar must be perfect, and you cannot use first person POV. Cannot have a single "I" in the article, cannot have a single "from my experience".
And there is a rule of 3 strikes and you are out. Please do not let them reject your articles 3 times. They will terminate your account.
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@mommaj (23112)
• United States
7 May 09
Your so sweet! What if out of 123 articles is ranked 80. LOL By the way if it's ranked 80 can someone send me some tissues and bandaids. The tissues for my crying the bandaids to put my computer back together. I will never touch a keypad again. Never touch a keypad again....
Oh hey, thanks for telling me about the constant content. They've already rejected me though. LOL Seriously and it was even an article that I got favorable comments on from my professional writer following so I was a little surprised.
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@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
7 May 09
You can leapfrog an article right after you submit it or later on. You can also leapfrog an article multiple times. The catch is you have to wait a week between leapfrogs on the same article. It is a good idea when you want to tweak your article or simply to jump start the ratings system again. Also, it does take a week or so for the ratings to settle down. I have had to leapfrog when my formatting got screwed up between word processor and Helium. When I first started writing to the web, my articles weren't always that great. So I would get some advice and then leapfrog the article to make it better. Yeah, I still need to do some leapfrogs but haven't gotten around to it yet.
Also, make sure you are saving all your work in your word processor first.
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@mommaj (23112)
• United States
7 May 09
For the most part the articles are rewritten articles from my other submissions on different websites. I just seem to need to leapfrog some of them because like you said after the ratings settle down for awhile your article might not be in the best of spots. I don't expect my articles to be in the top five on a 30 scale but they should be in the top 10 or 15. I want to get them better though so I think I will leapfrog them. Of course, that can always backfire and the rating will go down.
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
7 May 09
Sierras236 You're a helium rock star! Congrats on selling all those marketplace articles!
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
7 May 09
I have used leapfrog on Helium, with mixed results. Quite often, I am just annoyed that my article is so low-ranked and I have moved on to some other topics, so the whole idea of re-writing my article is just not appealing. But sometimes, it helps to take an objective look at it and see why it might be ranked low.
The most obvious things are spelling, grammar and formatting. If it's the content of the article or the approach, chances are I will really not want to change that. Other times, I feel that the higher ranked articles take too light-hearted an attitude towards a serious subject. There was one about third degree burns that I thought was a bit too full of cuteness but got high ranking. Personally, I don't want cute with my third degree burn. Okay, enough of my whining.
Yes, sometimes leapfrogging works to move you up in rank, sometimes it doesn't help a lot, but usually you will gain a little bit. You can leapfrog the same article more than once, but there is a waiting period. Check under article options on the article you want to leapfrog the second time and when it is eligible, it will show up there.
Stars twinkle on and off. My problem is rating stars, even if I rate a thousand articles in a month I still can end up with disappearing rating stars. Seems I don't agree with the majority often enough. I must say, I am glad of that. I never, ever, want to give up my individual perspective and accept the majority view simply because there's more of them than me. ;)
Good luck with your quest for stardom, keep writing. Always do it for yourself and not for the stars, because in the long run, they only mean that a majority of people on Helium think that way. It's always possible they are wrong...
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
7 May 09
Rollo, where would I find that burn article?
I have been advised to rate as far better as opposed to slightly more or more but I confess it is sometimes hard to do that. The tips I have been given seem to be working though because I finally have a rating star. It may help that I have started posting more competitive titles.
I think leapfrogging might be beneficial for really old articles that you want to elaborate on further.
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
7 May 09
I have seen the opposite advice, to avoid using more or far better and to go for slightly more. Honestly, I don't think any advice works as far as rating goes.
I won't point out particular articles of others any more than I will point you to mine. Mylot is here and Helium is there, etc.
@paid2write (5201)
•
8 May 09
The rating system at Helium is as mysterious as the earning system at myLot. I do use the leapfrog option regularly, so I never drop below my three writing stars.
My writing score is usually around 80%. If some of my articles drop in the ratings it does not matter, but I will still leapfrog them to get my score to rise again.
If an article of mine is rated 3rd out of 23 I will be very happy, but if it is 3/3 I will leapfrog to try at least to get it into second place. It does not always work, sometimes the article will appear as number 1, and then it drops again into 3rd place.
Leapfrogs give me the opportunity to revise and improve my writing. It is part of the learning process, as well as being an important part of the writing process.
I do try to make sure there are no errors in the final draft of an article when I submit it to Helium, but I can always find a way to improve on what I have previously written.
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
8 May 09
WOW. Good for you. LOL I can't even keep one writing star longer than a day. I'm going to print the page with my star next time I get it just to say I have a writing star. LOL It's okay though my concentration is another website. I just learned of all the changes taking place on that website so I will need to find another one soon. Two people have left that use to do a wonderful job and they won't be replaced. I would like to know where all the money is going because they have cut payments for upfront pay and they just got rid of two employees. What else? I am hoping to figure out Helium or one of the other websites just so I can make some money....
@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
7 May 09
Hi mommaj, Leap frog is provided so that you improve on your article and resubmit it. You can do it once only, and also depending on the number of articles you have posted you are given a few chances to leap frog your articles, it will be mentioned on your profile. i think you should do it so that your article becomes better and you are able to obtain a star. I am on helium and i feel that it is a great site. You need to maintain your stars in both rating and writing and you can get a steady income from it...all the best to you
@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
8 May 09
I only leapfrog if I spot typos or if someone points out mistakes during rating. I always make sure I am happy with the article before posting, as I'm sure you do. I usually write it in Word on my own computer, rather than directly to the Helium site. Then I leave it for a while and check through before I post. I started this when I first joined Helium and lost my Internet connection before the article was finished. I had to rewrite the whole thing!
Some articles, which I think are really good, rate low, while others that I've just dashed off seem to get better ratings. As we've all pointed out, with other people rating, there are bound to be discrepancies, and for this reason I only use leapfrog for obvious mistakes.
Remember too that when you submit a leapfrog, that has to be rated and approved before it can supersede the old article. My own opinion is that once you are happy with an article, leave it and move on. We writers have lots of writing in us, and tinkering with old articles is just stalling the creative flow, as far as I'm concerned.
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
8 May 09
Tinkering with old articles is just stalling the creative flow... That's a wonderful point but if you are on a site like Helium to earn money then you have to go back and tweak articles in order to get them on the rating radar. I can't seem to get a writing star but of course my concentration isn't helium at the moment. As far as Helium goes if you want to keep earning money you really need at least one writing star for the bigger payouts. Like you said about others rating it all depends on the mood they are in. They may not even be reading the articles. So who knows what type of position your article will have? That's the only reason I think you should tweak on Helium. I don't tweak on any other website. There is no reason to.




