When That Big Black Cloud Hangs Over You
By Brian
@wolfie34 (26770)
United Kingdom
June 24, 2009 3:01pm CST
I was diagnozed with clinical depression in 2003, I cope with it by going to the gym as antidepressants don't work for me and at the beginning of the year I started the year so positive, I even had depression under control and managed to banish SAD which I get during January and February. I was in counseling and I felt that I was getting somewhere.
Now I feel that the big black cloud of desperation is back again, sadly my long term counselor of 13 months left and I am on the books waiting for another one, they said it will be weeks rather than months to wait for a new counselor to be allocated to, but it's like starting all over again, back to square one, the mountain I had climbed with my last counselor I now feel I've slipped back down again to where I was previously.
I am angry, full of hate, I'm stuck in a rut, my self esteem is rock bottom, I am hurting and I feel so damn alone, I can't even cry, the tears won't come. I am worried that I am heading for a breakdown again. I just want to scream, everything is getting on top of me and I can't see a way out
This time of the year doesn't help to be honest, I am not good with the heat it makes me even more moody. I cope better in the cold months.
I have started writing again but what I am writing is depressing. Part of me thinks I am just feeling sorry for myself, but I also think it's pretty deep rooted.
No good seeing the GP they just want to prescribe anti's all the time, I've tried so many in the past and to me they are just NOT an option
I don't go out or socialize because I am not that type of person as I am paranoid and suspicious about people's intentions
I don't smoke, I don't drink or take drugs but I do gamble, I find gambling takes my mind off my problems but it's not healthy and I do tend to waste a lot of money.
Does anyone else feel this way? How do you cope when that big black cloud comes over you? Do you have any suggestions to deal with it?
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12 responses
@guybrush (4658)
• Australia
27 Jun 09
Wolfie, it sounds as if you are in a very frightening place at the moment - and I desperately hope you are able to find another counsellor soon - a good one, who will connect with you and enable you to talk from your heart. I certainly agree it's not a good thing to be dependent on medication - but there are certain medications which can help greatly. Do you have country areas near you, where you could get out and do some bushwalking or something? Being shut up in a gambling place or club would be very depressing (I hate that atmosphere) - and it sounds as if you would benefit incredibly from getting out into the open spaces, breathing in some fresh air and enjoying nature - either by yourself or with a good friend. I don't think gambling really does take your mind off your problems - it's merely escapism which only lasts while you're doing it - harsh reality will always be waiting for you when you're done. The problems will never be sorted until they are faced, tackled and dealt with. I really do hope you will find someone to help you do this - but please don't shut yourself up in gambling places, as you will still be hurting when you come outside into the light.
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@wolfie34 (26770)
• United Kingdom
29 Jun 09
Sad to say my dear friend the gambling I do is online from my computer! It's far too easy for me to gamble, I have put limits on the gaming sites so I cannot exceed a set amount which is now low so that is one way of curbing my gambling habit. Cutting it out is not an answer, but cutting it back is. I have also been allocated a counselor at last, came at the right time, and yes it's a very frightening place I am in, although I feel a little better than I did, Black Wednesday. I went out Friday night and it did me the world of good, as they say the only way is up. Thank you for your advice and support my friend, much appreciated.
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@guybrush (4658)
• Australia
29 Jun 09
I'm proud of you for putting a limit on the online gambling sites, Wolfie - that's an excellent start, and should give you strength. It made me happy to hear you'd had a night out and enjoyed yourself - I hope you can organise more of those in the future. You sound happier, too. I'm glad!
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@darkstormy1 (264)
• United States
25 Jun 09
It is so hard to advise anyone on these matters what I can do is see what might be an issue at least in your story you say you gp which I assume is general praticenor (i know I spelled it wrong) but anyways if that is the case that could be a very big reason anti-depressants are not working and actually I am amazed you have found one this day and age that will even do it most doctors will not but send you to a phychologist because these meds have so many different factors to factor in and it can not be a hit and miss thing not to mention it can take trying different ones different combinations to get it right with the right combination one can live a very happy productive life this is know what I also know from personal experience if what you have is truly diagnosed depression or any mental illness as such this is not something that can be treated out of self will and in most cases it takes at least intially a combo of meds and therapy to reach a beneficial place mentally in order to heal in order to find the root of the anger the depression and such
I can also tell you from experience i got diagnosed when I was 21 I was depressed chronic with a slight onset of bi-polar borderline personality I thought I could deal with it on my own and did not seek treatment for over 10 years by this time I had through my own actions made it much worse if I would of done the correct meds and therapy back then I may of been looking at a year or two of it and most likely be able to live a life off the stuff I did not I started my treatment back in 02 it is 09 now they finally have me on a balanced meds dose of only two pills but I will most likely have to take them for the rest of my life my seratonin does not fire right most likely never will I stop them and even if emotionally I feel fine physically I start to feel the depression
My best advice find a real good doctor not a gp that has no real clue how to prescribe the correct doses and such and good luck
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@wolfie34 (26770)
• United Kingdom
29 Jun 09
Thank you for sharing your experience. I was also diagnozed with BPD (Borderline Personality Disorder) which just makes things doubly worse for me, thankfully I have been allocated a new counselor on 3rd July at least I will be getting therapy again, came in the nick of time too.
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@williamjisir (22819)
• China
25 Jun 09
Hello wolfie. I am so sorry to know that clinical depression is coming back to you again after years. After reading and analyzing the content of your discussion, I think that one of the main reasons that causes this depression of yours is related to your lack of enthusiasm of socializing with other people that makes you feel paranoid and suspicious about people's intentions. I hope that you don't mind my saying so as your friend because I want you to live your life to the fullest in every possible way that we can help you. Improve yourself in this field and I am sure that you will find it much better on your side. Take care and be happy, my dear wolfie.
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@wolfie34 (26770)
• United Kingdom
29 Jun 09
Hi William of course I don't mind you saying so as my friend, I so much appreciate your advice, support and you have been a good friend to me, I am so lucky to have such wonderful friends on Mylot and for that alone I am truly grateful and appreciative.
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
24 Jun 09
When the big black cloud comes over, I listen to music, get out into nature, read something, talk to online friends, look at art, smile, hug the children, pet the cats, take a walk, just generally do things that make me happy.
But I must admit, I don't think I get quite this depressed. Isn't there anybody you can be with or somebody that you can call?
I gamble too. Bad habit, lol. But fun (if you win anyway).
Sending a virtual hug...
Good luck.
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
25 Jun 09
Hey wolfie! I bet you knew that you would hear from me dear
brother~ I do feel that we are somehow related as we have so
many of the same problems and I hate to say it but everytime
you write I feel like I am writing! Maybe we are "twins"
separated at birth, except that I am much older???lol I have
the exact same feelings as you do, from the depression, to
the anger, to the isolation, to the wanting to scream! But,
I am on the "meds" and am in therapy and still I feel the
same way that you describe! And today I had a long talk with
my mother, who is a great part of the problem and I actually
cried real tears! I don't cope! I just barely exist! I don't
live! I am on disability, so I no longer work! I proved that
I am incapable of that! So what do I have left? I have my
Star and Luna, who are my loves and without them I would die!
Cats are better than people, as you know! I have my boyfriend?
He lives here, but not really? I am still in my "own" miserable
world and he goes out and lives his life leaving me here. He
runs errands for me when I can't make myself go out. He cleans
the house when I don't want to and goes on his merry way. And
all I want to do is be alone with my cats! I just don't know
what to do anymore either! Right now I am in one of those moods
where I want to scream and be totally alone! So I do wish that
I had some kind of answer to fix the way that I feel so that I
could help both of us, but sadly I don't and I am really getting
scared that I am going to totally lose it myself!
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@wolfie34 (26770)
• United Kingdom
29 Jun 09
Sometimes I just want to be alone and be left alone to lick my wounds, I just wish I could cry, you know if I had a good cry it would make things different. Good news is that I am getting long term counseling starting this Friday!!! Came in the nick of time dear friend. Sending you a big hug cos I know I want one right now and I really reached rock bottom again. The heat is also driving me crazy too! Can we do a rain dance LOL! (least I've retained my humour)
@kellyjeanne (1576)
• United States
1 Jul 09
Well, just recently I've hooked up with a couple of friends who walk everyday. For now I'm only going to be walking 3 days a week since I haven't walked in a very long time. Soon, I wouldn't mind going everyday with them. Exercise is supposed to be great for depression and I've been suffering from major depression most of my life. Let me know what works for you!
Purrs,
Catwoman=^..^= & Mija
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@wolfie34 (26770)
• United Kingdom
1 Jul 09
Hi my dear friend, that's just it I do go training at the gym 4 times a week, usually putting in 2 hours minimum at a time, that usually does the trick to beat off depression but last week well I just hit rock bottom, but with news of a new counselor and going out Friday night helped me a great deal, trouble is its the heat that pushes me back down again, I can't deal with the heat. I still go to the gym luckily it's air conditioned! Hugs to you and thanks always for caring x
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@kellyjeanne (1576)
• United States
1 Jul 09
It sounds to me like you're on the right track, hon, and I wish you all the best. The problem is because we are human we'll always have those bad days, but, you are doing a great job in countering them as best as you can. I hope this walking does the trick for me too.
Purrs,
Catwoman=^..^= & Mija
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@GardenGerty (169439)
• United States
25 Jun 09
The heat is a different type of SAD. I do not do well with it either. I am sorry that you have lost this friend and counselor who is so close to you. I would say to get early morning sun, before the heat comes. Also be sure to take your vitamins, especially B Complex vitamins as they are mood enhancers, Magnesium, too. People with depression cannot be just told to " get over it" so I will not say that to you. I will say that it is very thereapeutic to be here and I hope that something helps.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
1 Jul 09
I can tell you are in a bad way Wolfie...your regular cheerful, thoughtful disposition is hiding and your discussions have been getting darker and more agitated over the last couple of months. I wish I could help you. Here in Australia, we have an agency called Beyond Blue for people with deep, sad, horrid feelings such as the ones you have. Is there some sort of agency you can contact because I think you seriously need some changes to occur for you. You are in my thoughts mate...lots of us here care for you very much. Big hugs.
@wolfie34 (26770)
• United Kingdom
1 Jul 09
I feel a little better this week dear friend but boy did I hit rock bottom. I got a call which came at exactly the right time, a new counselor has been allocated to me, start this coming Friday, I went out Friday night and it made me feel much much better. The only way is up as they say. We do have the Samaritans which we can call but trouble is I live with my parents and I never get the house to myself otherwise I would have called them. The heat also doesn't help and I think I let everything get on top of me. Thanks for the hugs need them right now xx
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@mssnow (9484)
• United States
2 Jul 09
aww my poor Wolife, i wish i was there to help you, that reminds me I have some good news I will tell you in im. Yes I do get down in February when it is still cold and i don't like cold so i don't go anywhere. I do better in the heat. Hugs feel better my favorite Wolfie. xoxoxox
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@daryljane (3406)
• Philippines
25 Jun 09
Why dont you spend more time here in mylot, that way you can tell us what you feel, and we'll be here to listen. Sometimes when the black cloud hangs over you, all you need is someone to talk to you..too bad you lost your councelor. Ive used mylot as the place to let my emotions out for sometimes and it worked. hope it does to you. Goodluck!
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@celticeagle (189820)
• Boise, Idaho
25 Jun 09
Hello, wolfie. I have severe depression. I was able to take an early retirement and am riding my bike nearly daily and going to the gym. Meds don't help me either. I find that keeping busy, your mind, is very important. Be thankful you have a computer. Always something to do. You could go to your local library, walk in the park. Get out alittle. You could also volunteer someplace. Not daily but once in awhile. You will be so surprised how much better you will feel by doing for others. If you would like to PM me for more info feel free. Take care of yourself. Be sure you take a multi-vitamin daily and eat good. You can also find free games online so you don't get yourself into trouble financially. It is your choice. Alot of things you can do to help yourself.
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@wolfie34 (26770)
• United Kingdom
29 Jun 09
I do need my mind occupied to take my mind off my problems, I need to be active, hence the gym, I struggle at night times the most because that is where I am more likely to gamble, I don't go out and stay in my bedroom, sometimes the computer can be a disadvantage as without it I couldn't gamble, but then again without it I would be totally cut off and wouldn't be able to use Mylot and have support, advice and help from all your good selves who take the time to respond and give me help and guidance. So thank you
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@celticeagle (189820)
• Boise, Idaho
16 Jul 09
Oh, ya the heat is killer this year. I would just try to find a time that it isn't so brutal. Good luck!
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
16 Jul 09
Hi wolfie, i really hope you are feeling more on track now, i felt for you reading this. Just a few tips to try. No matter how bad you feel make yourself wake up early in the morning and stay up, don't allow yourself to pull the covers back over and go back to sleep. Go for a walk for at least half an hour. You already exercise so that's good. Get into the habit of waking early, staying up, set yourself a task each day, try to sleep earlier. It won't take too long to adapt to this new pattern and it will help. Be careful of your posture, make yourself walk tall, stomach in, chest out, it will make you look more positive. You probably aren't feeling good around people as you don't feel good about yourself and you will be sending out negative vibes. You have to force yourself to have contact, eye contact, verbal contact, it is your negativity which will make you feel paranoid. You have to stop worrying about how you feel, it will pull you down further. You will feel happy again. Confidence will be restored. If it is as you say a chemical inbalance you need to find the anit depressant for you, you cannot pull yourself out of it, you need to rebalance.
Hope any of that helps, please try it.
@wolfie34 (26770)
• United Kingdom
16 Jul 09
I have bad days, basically I am on a rollercoaster, thankfully tomorrow I am seeing my long term therapist and Saturday I am back at the gym again. Antidepressants don't work for me, I've tried a number of them, the side affects are worst than the depression symptoms, the depression comes and goes and usually is worst this time of the year, I don't like the heat and the heat makes me even more irritable, moody and depressed. I am working on my self esteem with my therapist but it's an uphill struggle. Thank you for your excellent advice, appreciated. I do like my sleep too much and tend to sleep a minimum of 9 hours each night, sometimes more.













