Who put the plug on?
By katerina
@thea09 (18305)
Greece
November 21, 2009 6:16am CST
Literally on my way out of the door in pursuit of snapping up a bargain bread maker in town, this thought occured to me, will it have a plug on?
One of the first ever electrical appliances I bought was a liquidiser (possibly a blender over the pond). Now back then plugs were not attached to appliances and I have never seen the slightest point in learning how to electrocute myself, so naturally asked the man in the shop to attach one. He rudely laughed about my requesting this service, stupid move, as I immediately crossed the road to the rival electrical store, told the tale, bought the item there, and had a free plug attached. Incidentally that liquidiser lasted over 20 years and I never ever shopped at the other shop again, even when they became a huge national chain.
I'm certain my bread maker will have a plug attached but do you recall when this type of thing was not the norm? Are you plug illiterate too?
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
21 Nov 09
I have never heard of such a thing. Over here when you buy a small appliance it's all ready to go, just take it out of the box. I'm really glad you explained the liquidiser thing because I would have never guessed a blender since it sounds like something Wile E. Coyote would try and use on Road Runner 

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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
21 Nov 09
I only use my blender for making drinks. It chops the heck out of some ice for really good strawberry margaritas LOL
I'll be 35 on my next birthday so, either you're really old or things are just really archaic (LOL) over there.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
21 Nov 09
Hi Zeph, so did I guess right, a blender will turn your cooked veggies into soup and is the same thing as a liquidiser?
You are just too young to know about appliances without plugs I suspect. Everything used to be like that in the UK when I was growing up, hence Sandras tale above of hubby taking off the plugs before something broken got chucked away.

@cynthiann (18612)
• Jamaica
21 Nov 09
I was very plug literate until I suffered my first major electrical shock. I would not purchase anything that did not have the plug thingy attached at the end.
I cannot think of anything out of the norm except driving off with the gas hose still in the car - but lots of people do that, don't they?

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@cynthiann (18612)
• Jamaica
22 Nov 09
My frequent memory lapse involves buying coffee and then going to the car with th coffee in one hand and car keys in th other hand. so I put the cup of hot coffee on top of the car whilst opening the door. And that is very logical isn't it? So I get inti the car without retrieving the coffee and only realise later when I reach for the coffee holder to find out that it is empty. So annoying!
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
21 Nov 09
Hi cynthiann, that plug thingy really sums it up.
Never come across the petrol pipe thingy though, the man at the petrol station puts it back on the pump whenever he's finished doing what he does with it. I did drive a few miles back from town today wondering what the dreadful rattle was in the car, then suddenly realised and stopped the car. My car keys and house keys were still in the car door on the outside and were about to rattle off onto the road. It's a good job I realised in time or wouldn't have been able to lock the car again or get into the house.


@ShepherdSpy (8544)
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
21 Nov 09
Thea,I don't remember the last gadget that I bought that I needed to go and buy a plug for it once I got it home and out of the box..The (UK) safety standard that requires a fitted plug to be supplied (Most have moulded on plugs now) has been in place for some Years..Looking around the extension sockets here in this room,all plugs are moulded,even the 12 Year old TV's one..When I came back from Germany,I was given a little egg cooker/hotplate I brought home with Me,and that was one occasion I recall when I had to change the plug from the German Euro Socket to the UK 3 pin plug..Years ago at home,Any time there was a plug needed putting on,though,I was a candidate for the Job!

@ShepherdSpy (8544)
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
22 Nov 09
Most eurozone electrical equipment is sold as 220/240 Volt,so it only takes a change of plug to get it up and running again,depending on how permanent you want to make the transition..a travel plug adaptor will let you bring your electrical necessities with you on holiday,but if you're moving home,swapping the plug may be more convenient once you're there.My latest fridge is an under counter type,but the socket is above the counter,so it needed a hole drilled in the countertop below the socket,the moulded plug cut off,and a "screw together" plug added once the power lead was fed up through the hole..most of the time you don't need to change the plug,it's times like these you may have to choose to change it..Small US electrical gizmos generally have a moulded 2 pin plug with no earth connection,and run on 110 V.Bigger ones have a 3 pin plug attached.You need to remember to buy a voltage converter to run one of these (2 pin gadgets) in the UK/Euroland,otherwise for a short while they go twice as fast before going *poof*..Bigger appliances would not be recommended as imports due to power requirements,although some US Appliances such as the big vertical fridge/freezers can be bought as converted import models. I brought back a small electric coffee grinder which is still going well..
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
21 Nov 09
Well that's the odd thing, I can't remember when the transition took place, everything had to have a plug added when I was growing up and I never really thought about when it changed until today, probably because I thought it would be a bother to go and find someone to put one on today.
I know everything Greek I have is moulded on. So are my UK electric items which it would be more sensible to change to Greek sockets rather than have adaptars trailing everywhere but I don't even know if they can be changed when moulded?
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
23 Nov 09
Can you say all that again in Greek please? I got the bit about things going poof. Now I don't use a little tourist adaptar, I have a couple of ones which have four spaces for 3 pin sockets which have a 2 pin socket on the end to plug into the wall. They don't run any big appliances but on one there is my lap top, my sons game boy charger and I've used it for the camera and the other monitor to work with my lap top.
The other one has the other lap top and the telephone. I do used the travel one for the liquidiser. So is anything likely to go poof with that set up?
I mentioned somewhere else as well that when I visited England the charger for the mobile was a 2 pin one and I couldn't find an adaptor that worked the other way round, from 2 pin to 3, odd that one.


@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
21 Nov 09
I am illiterate about alot of things but i don't like to be laughed at about them. The man was very rude for laughing at u. I don't blame u for not shopping there anymore. I don't understand why things come w/out a plug there. Any appliance or whatever that is suppose to have a plug has one when u buy it here. I don't have a bread maker. Let me know how u like it. Good luck w/it.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
21 Nov 09
Hi Aunty, it was always like that in the UK when I was growing up. Did you really buy things with plugs attached when you were a teenager or was someone screwing them on in the back of the shop? I wonder why the difference. Over here it wouldn't have been an issue as the village wouldn't have had any electircity then.
I'll open the breadmaker up tomorrow, it was dark and cold when I got back from town. We'll bake bread tomorrow in it and I'll read up on marmalade making before the sacks of oranges are availalble.

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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
21 Nov 09
I know u don't expect me to remember about that when i was a teenager, lol. I do well to remember what happened yesterday. 

@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
21 Nov 09
Hm, most things now do come with a plug already attached, thank God. But I worked in an appliance shop as a sales person many years ago, and for some of the bigger appliances, the plug had to be purchased separately. That never made sense to me!
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
21 Nov 09
Oh, yeah I wasn't thinking of that. Dryers and stoves are that way because there are 2 different plug styles for plugging in 220.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
21 Nov 09
Hi Karen, actually I was talking about the UK 25 years ago, and not just big appliances then, most things came without the plug attached. So tell me, did you put the plugs on for people, expect them to do it themselves, or rush off to find a man?

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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
23 Nov 09
We just sold them...the customers had to put them on after they got the dryers, etc., home.
@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
21 Nov 09
WOW, I have never ever heard of buying a piece of electrical equipment without the plug!
Is this because there are many different types of plugs across Europe or are they all the same???
I know that the power sources are different there to the USA and here in Australia, so they have different plugs, but I am not sure if it varies from country to country over there!
I can easily work out how to do minor electrical work like that and have replaced many plugs on tools over the years. 
Is this because there are many different types of plugs across Europe or are they all the same???
I know that the power sources are different there to the USA and here in Australia, so they have different plugs, but I am not sure if it varies from country to country over there!
I can easily work out how to do minor electrical work like that and have replaced many plugs on tools over the years. 1 person likes this
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
21 Nov 09
Hi Rawbill, I've been misinunterstood I fear, I was talking of 25 years ago back in the UK when it was perfectly normal for electrical goods not to have a plug on, and one had to be purchased and attached before the thing would work. But yes I have items now with English plugs on which need special adaptars to work in the Greek electrical sockets.
I've managed all this time without learning how to change a plug and presumed that all men were born knowing how to do it (naturally without reading a single instruction).
@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
21 Nov 09
Wow, as far as I am aware plugs have always been part of equipment here, probably because we are so far from everywhere else...LOL I just naturally assumed that the rest of the world has always been this way too.
I have learned something today!
Yeah, even as a baby, I could do minor electrical work...LOL. Instructions? What are they???


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@stvasile (7306)
• Romania
22 Nov 09
Hold on a minute... are you telling me the appliances didn't have a cord attached to plug them in through?
They just gave you the liquidiser and you had to find someone else to attach the electric cord? That's stupid... Good on you you never went back to that shop! The fact that it now is a renown national chain stands for nothing - we don't go there to buy a name, we go to buy a product, and if the products (and service, I might add) are better someplace else, let them have the name for themselves!

@stvasile (7306)
• Romania
22 Nov 09
Nope, I've never seen electrical products without the plug... My mother doesn't know about that either. She says there were some cookers that had a plug different to the ones used in our country, but you had a "normal" type of plug adapted so you could insert the plug available for the cookers in them.
My mother says the village was electrified around 1968, but there are many villages up in the mountains that still don't have electricity. That's because nobody cares enough to bring electricity to their doorstep... The electric companies probably care only of their income and don't think a few hundred people could make enough profit to go through all the "trouble" of building power lines that far... damn vultures!
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
23 Nov 09
That's so strange to think of people still in your country existing without electricity. I wonder if they actually want it or just live as they've always lived. Do they have gererators that run things like fridges and televsions? It reminds me of things I've heard of here before electic came and people did not have electric ovens. When they prepared a special dish they took it to the bakery to be cooked in their much larger wood oven than the smaller ones at home.
Last night we had a power cut for half an hour, a common thing, luckily there was light from the lap top screen as this is the kind of area which is so black without any light. It was quite cosy once a few candles were lit but inconvenient even for such a short time as we are so used to electricity, and I wa about to make coffee. It reminded me I forgot to buy the small gas camper thing for coffee without power, and that all the matches were wet and useless and must be replaced as lighters are difficult to light burnt down candles with and bits of rolled up paper set alight go out immediatly.
Last night we had a power cut for half an hour, a common thing, luckily there was light from the lap top screen as this is the kind of area which is so black without any light. It was quite cosy once a few candles were lit but inconvenient even for such a short time as we are so used to electricity, and I wa about to make coffee. It reminded me I forgot to buy the small gas camper thing for coffee without power, and that all the matches were wet and useless and must be replaced as lighters are difficult to light burnt down candles with and bits of rolled up paper set alight go out immediatly.1 person likes this
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
22 Nov 09
Hi stvasile, I thought you might be familiar with that system in Romania too but you're probably too young. When I was growing up in the UK appliance were sold with the cord attached yes, but no plug on the end, one had to buy and fit a plug. I can't even remember when this stopped and they started coming with plugs attached, probably not long after the incident I described.
At the time there were two high street chains in the town and lots of independant electrical places too. I certainly would expect someone selling electrical things to go out of their way a bit so that one could actually use the thing, especially when they also worked on commission. The word of one 'rudeness' spreads more harm to a buisness than 100 praises.
The village here actually got electiricty between 30 and 40 years ago, for the first time, when did you get it in your village? In fact I know of one house which only had electricity installed for the first time two years ago.

@cloudwatcher (6861)
• Australia
21 Nov 09
Some appliances are sold without a power cord, notably printers, and I think this is because of the different plugs used in different countries. Since most printers (and most electrical appliances) are manufactured in Asian countries, where a different plug is used, the power cord supplied with the machine would be useless. However, no plug literacy is required, because it is only a matter of plugging in the cord.
I'll be waiting for the wonderful smell of newly baked bread to waft all the way here. I'll have to check which way the wind is today.
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@cloudwatcher (6861)
• Australia
22 Nov 09
Well, you learn something every day!
I didn't know you could make marmalade in a bread oven!
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
21 Nov 09
Hi Cloudwatcher, well I did get as far as removing the instructions from the box, which appear very complicated, and then got sidetracked by the fact that marmalade made in it requires something called preserving sugar and not granulated sugar, and I've never heard of it. This could account for the fact that I've never actually come across a Greek with homemade jam, not once. This is a bit odd actually when you think that most Greek women can produce a tray of baklavas which appear so big I don't know how they got in the oven. So the bread will be wafting over tomorrow. 


@scarlet_woman (23463)
• United States
21 Nov 09
i haven't seen too many nowadays with removable plugs..i wish they still did because it's annoying when you go to clean it,especially in the case of crock pots.
there's another gripe right there-a lot of the newer ones the pot doesn't come out.
that was so much easier to clean.
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@scarlet_woman (23463)
• United States
24 Nov 09
thea-
nah,i mean to clean the device itself..it's just annoying when it's banging around in the sink because you're not supposed to submerge it.
as far as electrocution goes-i'd already done that enough at former job..i don't need the home version
(i am serious-3 times.lousy cheap vacuums..cheap employer).
note i said "former job" LOL
(i am serious-3 times.lousy cheap vacuums..cheap employer).
note i said "former job" LOL@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
21 Nov 09
Hi scarlet woman, what were you doing removing plugs to clean them. You've lost me, I've never cleaned a plug in my life, they're electric so we could electocute ourselves. Glad they've put an end to that dangerous little habit of yours.
Gadgets, smadgets, crock pots and chip fryers. Don't have either.
Fjaril you amaze me, doesn't a deep fat fryer rather spoil the pristine neat area of your kitchen surfaces.

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@jillhill (37353)
• United States
21 Nov 09
Not for plugs but have been for other things.......why is it that they have to make something so difficult? LOL......there are times I get home and find I have to have another part to go with something.....Like a cord....you would think it would be included!
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
21 Nov 09
hi thea no I guess I have always lucked out as all the electrical appliances I bought had the plugs on them, that is odd , I had not realized that somewhere they had at one time been sold without the plug on. wow and me as dumb as I am about electrical stuff would have had to have help too. that guy who laughed at you just bit his own nose off to spite his face as the one thing that makes people come back to a store of any kind is great customer service. I will not go back if I am insulted and that is for sure. oh yes I am plug illiterate thats why I was shaking and my hands were actually sweaty when I pulled out the right wire and plugged it back in again on both the monitor and the router.
thank goodness now all things have the plugs on them.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
22 Nov 09
Hi Hatley, all through my childhood in the UK nothing came with plugs attached so the old ones were taken off and saved for the next plugless appliance. When it came to doing it myself though I had not a whit of interest in learning how it should be done. I don't know if Greece ever went through that too as my village got its first electricity within the last 35 years, amazing isn't it? cooking with fire and living by candelight, but I will never understand how they coped without fans in the summer.
We are kindred spirits when it comes to our fear of wires and plugs and I'm just glad that things have them these days.

@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
21 Nov 09
Hello, Thea. I can go one beter than that. I can remember when the pins on the plug were round, as opposed to square. Now we live in Spain, where the (2) pins on the plug are also round, so it's a bit like going back in time. Luckily, everything I buy has a plug attached, and I'm sure your bread maker will.
One relic of the days when plugs had to be purchased separately is that my husband always cuts the plug off broken appliances 'in case we ever need one.' Of course, we don't, and every now and again I sneak a few plugs out of his hoard to throw away. Now we're selling or small chalet in England, they all have to go in the bin, and he's distraught.
@ShepherdSpy (8544)
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
21 Nov 09
Did He collect the moulded on plugs,or just the ones you had to unscrew and take apart to get at the fuses?
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
21 Nov 09
Hi Sandra, I remember my Dad doing exactly the same thing, always taking plugs off so as not to buy a new one for the next item. I never actually bought a plug as I always made them put one on for me for free, otherwise it would be of no use to me, unless I went to the bother of getting a man in.
A few of the things I have now still have the English plugs on, the liquidiser, both laptops, and a few other things, so I have to use those adaptars.
What flumoxed me though is that my mobile has a Greek plug on the charger, but when I went back to the UK for one week I could not find an adaptar to work the other way round, EU to UK style. Odd that.
I've never considered changing my English plugs to Greek plugs as they are all moulded on as Shepherd said, and no one saved an old Greek ones like Basil.

@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
21 Nov 09
Just the screw apart ones. Moulded plugs are too new-fangled to figure on his radar, bless him!

@checkmail (2039)
• India
21 Nov 09
Hello thea09 this is checkmail and am really a bit surprised as an you were not helped by the appliance keeper.As an after service he must have provided you with the installation of the plug.Yeah normally many appliances do have an attached plug in with it, and some are too easy to plugin.Myself am having some raw experience in electronics through some viewing and experience while working with mine electrician.Am an literate in electronics upto an basic level.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
21 Nov 09
hi checkmail, like I said I'm going back 25 years with that incident, but I always remember the negatives of shopping somewhere and don't go back. Things do come with plugs these days but they didn't used to in the UK, but apparently they did in the States, so they must have been more up to date.
It will be handy for you to have electrical knowledge as then you won't need to get a man in to do it, or in your case an electrician.
@sunny68 (1327)
• India
22 Nov 09
this is news for me...as i cannot remember buying anything that did not come with standard accessories. in fact i do remember getting extra accessories that i never used (like a DC plug). the situation you mention is like selling a mobile phone without a charger....that simply won't make any sense. no wonder that practice has been discontinued. and hope it remains this way only...
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
22 Nov 09
Hi sunny, I think the days of that are gone for good but its only the responsders here from the UK that ever came across it, no one from anywhere else.
I had no idea a mobile phone needed charging when I had the first one, I knew they had batteries in and hadn't bothered looking if there was anything else in the box after it had been set up by the man in the shop.

@sunny68 (1327)
• India
23 Nov 09
today similar problem exists with memory cards. phones and cameras do not come with memory cards and even if they do, they are of so less capacity that you are left with no other choice but to buy a high capacity memory card. however with decreasing price of memory cards i hope that soon such gadgets would come with memory cards included.....
......
......@sunny68 (1327)
• India
25 Nov 09
that's the one alright...a rectangular piece of plastic...size may vary between that of a postage stamp to that of a fingernail. now a days it is an integral part of the mobile phone and stores all your data. and in case of camera phones, it stores all photos and video clips.
@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
21 Nov 09
OH....OH...thea, you asked for this one! Canada has been "plugged in" for a long, long time...I think since the inception of electrics! So...I am presuming that you are either; #1-pulling my leg....or #2; due to the difference in the European "currentcy" (not $$$$, electricity) that when the appliances are built in China....Japan....????? Wherever...the plugs are not attached, and it is up to the supplier to attach consistent with it's supply! Now, I think your issue is with the lethargy of the locals...oust them from the cafenions....get those little elves busy attaching plugs.
P.S WILD, wacky weather continues...A thunder/lightening storm of unbelievable proportions, dumping 7.5 centimetres of hail last nite! Yikes! HUGZ!

@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
21 Nov 09
mAYBE we just overlooked the electricity...don't seem to need it..refrigerators work just FINE in Igloos! LOL!
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
21 Nov 09
Hi Shirley, so your dreadful storms continue unabated, ours have stopped for a while and another day of sunshine was enjoyed, but it went dark at 5.30 when I was expecting 6, and got stuck on the mountain road in the dark which I really don't like, especially coming downhill to home with the sea on the same side as the car, naturally at the bottom of a large drop.
Haha, you misread me my dear, I said 25 years ago and was speaking of the UK, they hadn't actually had electriciy in this area very long then. Back then plugs came separately as they did all through my childhood, which Sandra will vouch for in her box, so no, not plugging your leg. Did this never happen over the pond. How very odd that we were so used to it and you never had it. 


@moonchild1au (6237)
• Australia
24 Nov 09
I don't think that any appliance was released like that here in Australia - every appliance that is sold here has the plug attached...When I first read your discussion, it had me confused as to exactly what you meant at first as this has never happened to me lol


@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
22 Nov 09
Seriously? No plugs? Nope, never heard of such a thing!!!
@malpoa (1213)
• India
23 Nov 09
Hi thea,
I am afraid of all electrical appliances!!! Of course because of the fear of getting electrocuted...hi hi I get scared while plugging in the plug to the socket...I would ask anybody else at home to do the thing for me...I am even scared to switch off the heater, it gets worse during winter...bad time is ahead...
That is a good trick to comment inferior about the rival shopowner, it did gain you...
I cant think about any electric appliances with a detached plug, but inspite of knowing the funda behind electrical current and its appliances, I am petrified to use them...:))
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
23 Nov 09
Hi Malpoa, that's a strange fear to have. I can understand it if thats the way of turning something off if it doesn't have a switch but it's safe if you turn the thing off first. I think the only thing I need to plug in without a switch is the iron, ironically that's the only thing that always sends the trip switch up on the electric panel and plunges the house into darkeness. I wonder if there's a connection.
@malpoa (1213)
• India
24 Nov 09
Ah iron!!! it is the first culprit of puttig mein this state.. I got my first shock from our iron... the wire gets entangled and the lamination comes off quickly..our iron had a peculiar way of passing current through the zari work it is a type of thread work with metal thread)...even now, when i plug in I tend to move back ward...many times the plug has fallen from my hand quite before the socket!!! there is no question of plugging in after switching on...

@Louc74 (620)
•
22 Nov 09
What I've been caught out on was having to buy an adapter after I bought my first electric toothbrush. Thought I'd just get it home, plug it in to charge it, and that would be it. But when I unwrapped it, it had a two prong plug on it, and I realised I had to buy the adapter before I could use the d*mn thing!
But I know how to change a plug, although I'd be a bit ticked off if I bought something and it didn't haveone already attached.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
22 Nov 09
Hi Lou, well done, see you've gone blue.
I didn't know until today that an adaptar is the same thing as a transformer, strange isn't it?
Are they selling things with European plugs now in the UK? Thought that would have been against the law. Couldn't you just have changed the plug on the toothbrush if you know how to change a plug?
It would have been a complete waste of time if I'd ever learnt how to change a plug though as now the wiring is completely different over here, so I have quite a few adaptars around.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
22 Nov 09
It's very useful for picking up strange things here. A transformer makes an adapaptar sound like something which does amazing things. So I gather its not worth taking the plug off and replacing it with either a UK or Euro one then now they are moulded on.
Just think though you won't need to cart an adaptar over to Europe for your tooth brush.
@Louc74 (620)
•
22 Nov 09
Ooh! I hadn't even noticed! I've not even been very active on here the last week or so, people must have been very nice to rate the comments I made! Lol!
I didn't know that about transformers either. See? Learning something new every day! The plug was fitted to the wire, you know the kind I mean? So to replace it, I would have had to have cut the flex, so it seemed better to buy the adapter.
I've only ever seen those plugs on toothbrushes and razors. I think it's because if you buy one of those mirrors for your bathroom with the light and power point attached, they always have the 2 prong power supply.




















