Brake froze; could not stop car

@Canellita (12029)
United States
November 29, 2009 12:16am CST
I was driving back to my side of the river today (technically yesterday afternoon) and halfway down the exit ramp my car stalled. It has been running hot so this was not entirely surprising. No big deal, I figured I would just coast around to the bottom (the ramp swirls in a spiral) stop the car and then see if the motor would start up again. (I carry a jug of water just in case.) Well, before I could get all the way down, the brake locks up on me and I am having trouble controlling the car. You have to understand, I have had dreams like this since before I ever even owned a car and I am always very careful. As I get closer to the bottom the car starts going to the left and I end up against the wall of the exit ramp. I was trying to steer to the right but the car would not cooperate. Fortunately it was not going too fast and I stopped about 5 car lengths from the bottom of the ramp. It was also fortunately not a very busy time of day so there was not much traffic. Breathless and shaken, I pulled out my mobile and called my mechanic. The steering wheel had also locked and I couldn't get it freed and I could not even turn the key in the ignition! While I waited to be rescued several cars passed and one person did eventually ask if I needed to jump the battery (like that would keep me stuck in place) and if I was ok, but I don't let anyone mess with the car unless they are certified to work on
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9 responses
• Boston, Massachusetts
29 Nov 09
Hi Canellita, oh girl what an experience... so how did you go about it if you did not allow that stranger to help you? did the mechanic man came and that helped get out from there? How long did it take you to be over with it? So how are you now? i hope you're home safe and feeling relax this time!
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
29 Nov 09
My mechanic did not take long to show up; he knew I was a little freaked out by the incident and he knew someone could come speeding down the ramp and run into the back of me. It took a while for him to fiddle around under the hood after we got more water so I could drive it again. It was more than 6 miles to get home so I went to my other half. I fell asleep on the heating pad and this morning I am still a little achy from my muscles tensing up. Even my wrists were aching. LOL, I thought I wouldn't be able to crochet!
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
29 Nov 09
I am happy to report that I finished the hat I was working on and started another. Although, the margarita I had with lunch has metabolized and my muscles feel soft, lol.
• Boston, Massachusetts
29 Nov 09
good to know that you are safe. give yourself a rest for now and leave your crochet a break too. just imagine me giving you a back massage. i do swedish massage. so i am giving you one friend. can you feel it? I hope this can ease the pain and relaxes you muscles due to the tension that you just had. Take a deep breath and relax!
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
29 Nov 09
haha, you are getting more like Mommaj! One minute, you have frozen ants in the refrigerator, now the car has frozen brake! What's next? I guess you have enough real life material to write ghost stories. Come to think of it, I guess Mommaj has released all her writing ghosts to haunt you. No wonder she has no mood to write, and you have all the weird things happening. Better catch all those naughty ghosts and hand them back to Mommaj. Ask her to get a better cage to hold the ghosts, otherwise they run out again.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
29 Nov 09
haha, you have to ask Mommaj to catch the ghosts. I bet she kidnaps those ghosts from hell the lure of chocolate. Too bad she let them loose and they play tricks with you. Next time spank Mommaj when you see her, ask her to keep the ghosts hard at work, and not playign with your car or refrigerator.
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
29 Nov 09
Ah, I heard scheng say something about those ghosts. I have been looking for them. I didn't mean to let them lose on Canellita. Send them back. I still need them! Sounds strange, Canellita, Scheng may have something. I'ld be careful of anything that can "freeze".
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
29 Nov 09
I need some special Chinese charms for warding off ghosts! Thankfully my good spirits were around to chase them off! I think the entire thing was a warning to get the tank changed immediately. I am waiting for mechanic to come right now.
@VKXY62 (1605)
• Australia
29 Nov 09
Hi, well, that all went from bad to worse very quickly, but if you just had a little knowledge before you went to turn that key, about what would happen as soon as you did. Terminology, if the incorrect words are used to describe something, an incorrect picture of the situation will be conceived. You mention the brakes just locked up. This means they grabbed the wheels and the wheels are no longer turning. I think you meant to say that they failed to operate at all. Mongrel weather is almpost impossible to cope with, when you loose it, it is usually lost altogether. Vehicle control I mean, ice, slush, etc. Taking your hands off the wheel whilst in motion is illegal, to the person that admitted that after loosing control for whatever reason, you are leaving yourself open to liability saying that. e.g. I lost control and slid into a parked car. 12 feet before the parked car, was dry road, had the driver been on control at the last moment, a collision could have been avoided, but their eyes were covered instead. But in reality, what's the point after you hit black ice. You're liability, to whatever happens. The steering wheel lock, these lock when you turn the ignition off. You have to move the steering wheel left or right to enable the ignition key to turn once locked, unless you pulled up straight in the driveway. The brakes failing, modern cars have brake boosters, a large squat drum attached to the firewall in front of the driver in the engine bay. When you turn off the engine, the brake booster stops working, you still actually have brakes, but you have to push very hard. One of those things every driver should be aware about their car. In Australia, we term driving without the engine running, ANGEL GEAR, you can understand why. It works OK in an old car without a brake booster or steering lock, but new cars can be deadly in that respect. I would think most people think they have NO brakes when the booster fails, they just don't know. See if you can find out that YOUR car does actually have brakes after a booster fail, test the no boost brakes while angelling it down a slight slope, on your own property. You know it works that way. I do not know of any car that looses brakes totally when a booster fails. Your Mr Mechanic should be able to say. I am guessing that you haven't ever done that before, and when it went all pear shaped it spun you out, a lot. Primary cause for concern with modern vehicles and doing this is not the brakes failing, but the steering lock coming on. Events that occured. 1. Engine conked out. 2. Driver turned off ignition by twisting key. 3. Steering lock comes on. 4. Brake booster stops due to no engine. 5. Driver really freaks out now. 6. Car crashes. Did I get it right? Situations like this are just the worst, things go bad, then they quickly get worse, with no time for the mind to catch up or make sense of what is happening. Planes crash when these things happen. Advice, never turn off the ignition key whilst in motion in a modern car, EVER.
@VKXY62 (1605)
• Australia
3 Dec 09
Oh dear, the failed master cylinder, that's a bit more serious. I call that one the goosh factor. Put your foot on the brake and 'goosh', the car actually seems to go faster. Looks like all the gotchas joined forces against you, right there and then. You are surely correct about those Euro cars. My least favourite is Renault.
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
3 Dec 09
Yes, being the owner of a 22 year old BMW is certianly an adventure.
@jennybianca (12912)
• Australia
30 Nov 09
Woe! That was a bit scarey. The important thing in these situations is to remain calm and think, which you clearly did. I am not a very mechanical person and in any emergency like this, I would call the RAA. It kind of scars me a bit that my 16 year old daughter is learning to drive. What if she got involved in a situation likle yours, would she stay calm and know what to do?
@jennybianca (12912)
• Australia
30 Nov 09
She is having driving lessomns with a qualified instructor. But it is So..... expensive. $80 for 1.5 hours of instruction.
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
1 Dec 09
At least you know it will be worth it when she gets her license and you get that discount on your insurance!
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
30 Nov 09
Arm her with information. It's great to be able to call roadside assistance, but it is also great to be able to do stuff yourself to get back on the road. Stuff like knowing not to slam on your brakes in a skid can save your from a bad crash. Individual cars come with safe driving tips in the manuals and there is all sorts of other information available online. Keeping up a car's maintenance is essential to safe driving. If I hear a weird sound I call my mechanic immediately. Many people let stuff go until the problem gets worse and that is how things get dangerous. What happened to me was kind of a freak occurrence because my car ran hot. If I had been on a level road I would have been able to pull over to the side and attempt to restart the car. Teach your daughter to drive defensively because other drivers are the biggest threat on the road!
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@mysdianait (66005)
• Italy
29 Nov 09
Oh my goodness me! I would have been scared stiff and would have lost my wits and would not have been able to control it at all so well done to you! I am scared stiff of driving in the snow or ice and don't use my car AT ALL once the freezing weather sets in. I know I am useless and scared so I'm sure I would be a danger to others. Friends and family jnow I react like this and as soon as it starts snowing they start phoning and organising lifts for me to my workplace. I feel such an idiot but better safe than sorry surely
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
29 Nov 09
I have never driven in snow but I know what it is to be on icy roads or to hydroplane and it is very dangerous. I don't blame you for being wary of it, not because of the road conditions but because of all the crazy drivers who seem to think bad weather means drive faster! Even in good weather people run through stop signs and stuff and you have to drive very defensively. Last December I was on my way to an appointment in the next parish around 9 AM and I opened the front door to see huge, fluffy, white flakes gently floating to the ground. I froze in my tracks. I called an canceled my appointment and waited to see how long it would last. Fortunately it was almost over by the time I discovered it. We never get REAL snow. We get the slushy stuff that doesn't stick and turns to rain and washes away. It had cleared up though by the time I had to go to work.
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
29 Nov 09
Hey Trensue, I lived in both areas. You think people up north can't drive in the snow you should see some of these people driving in the rain. It's scary!
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
29 Nov 09
It never ceases to amaze me how some people think rain means drive fast.
@SomeCowgirl (32189)
• United States
29 Nov 09
I haven't started to drive yet, but am scared of things like that happening. I think I could control the car, and all to a certain extent, but you bet as soon as it stopped I'd be calling hubby if not his father to come to the rescue!
@SomeCowgirl (32189)
• United States
2 Dec 09
I used to have a friend who's sister had a BMW. They are nice cars, but always seem to break down. Then again this one was new. She was always taking it to be worked on Sad thing is, now I am related to the person who sold her the car... lol.
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
30 Nov 09
Calling my father at a time like that is asking for a headache. Besides, he doesn't know anything about BMWs. My guy is certified and I learned the hard way that you can not take the car just anywhere. It's been a lot easier to maintain than I thought it would be.
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
2 Dec 09
My car is over 20 years old so I am replacing old parts that have just worn out. That is, I was until someone hit the car and I had to replace perfectly fine parts. Today I had a flat, in the rain and the cold and the dark. It's been a rough few weeks. But then again, if I were not in a position to repair it, I would really be stuck out. Maintaining a car is like maintaining a house. Oil changes, tires, the occasional upgrades such as new batteries. It has to be done and it's par for the course. It would be worse with most other cars.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Nov 09
hi canellita wow that must have been really frightening when your brake locked up, and the steering wheel too. many years ago Iwas just a kid and my dad had bought a new plymouth. we were on as side hill when the brake locked then the steering wheel. due to the kindness of a stranger my dad was able to get us towed down the hill to the nearest service station where fortunately my dad was known by the owner. we were all scared and at that time I must have been about fifteen.oh and we had no cell phones yet either. but the passerby did help us out. I am glad you did not get hurt or your car get any real damage save the tire of course.
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
30 Nov 09
Thanks. It all happened really fast. I expected to just coast on down to the bottom but when the brake resisted and I couldn't slow the car down and then the power steering wasn't working and once it stopped I locked the wheel without realizing... I went from "what the...?" to "Oh crap!" in a matter of seconds. I really thought things were worse than they were, especially after I realized I was still on an incline without the handbrake engaged and the car wasn't moving. I actually drove it home.
@artistry (4151)
• United States
29 Nov 09
...Hi Canellita, That is such a scary account. I am glad you were able to come out of the situation alright. When I read the first part of your discussion, I thought to myself, if you can think at the actual time, that I would turn the key off, but reading further, your key did not even work. I don't know if you can even think what else to do at that point, so I guess staying in your seat belt and praying is the best thing. Again, glad you are safe, take care.
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
30 Nov 09
Well, with my car, when it stalls you have to turn the key all the way back to be able to start it up again. I had planned to just coast down but when the brake locked up o me I started to freak out. I was later told that it is a standard thing on all cars which is absolutely crazy. If I had not veered into that side wall I would have rear ended another car once I got to the bottom. I just may email BMW about it.
• Canada
19 Jan 10
Hello Canellita, Im glad you're doing allright. Usually when the motor stalls, you cant use the power brake or power steering. So thats probably why you couldnt steer or brake. There might be a way to get the brake or steering to work but I dont know. Best thing to do next time is to leave the car where it stalls and make sure you're out of danger and call someone to come pick you up or fix the car.
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
19 Jan 10
The car was rolling down an exit ramp when it stalled and somwehere in the process I also had a flat tire.
• Canada
19 Jan 10
Wow, its a miracle you're alive then. You could have drove off the ramp or you could have been hit by another car. You should thank you lucky star.......in the face of such bad luck that is!!