Really boring central heating question.

@thea09 (18305)
Greece
December 5, 2009 8:34am CST
This is so boring it bores me just asking it but I would like, once and for all, a definitive answer on this one. A few years ago I had central heating installed which runs from 'petrelo'. It's an expensive business but cheaper than electric heating. This year I've only ordered half a tank full as have to cut back on costs, and it will be brought up tomorrow. In an effort to be frugal and make the 'petrolo' last longer there are several opinions. The man who fitted it all says I should leave all the radiators on to let the something flow better, and it won't use more petrelo than turning some off. The Greek says that will use more petrolo and just turn on the radiators I will actually get benefit from and just turn the two main ones I use on. Or there is the opinion of turning them on half way. Does anyone know which is actually the best way to keep some of the house warm for the least pertrolo as it tends to go down quite quickly and I have to make it last. Please don't get too technical if you respond.
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@tdemex (3540)
• United States
5 Dec 09
There are a lot of questions to my brain since I can't see the system, one thing for sure is there is always room for improvement! We here call these radiators I think! If the boiler it self if outside it should be insulated, a lot, to hold in the heat generated so it so not escape to the cold outside, Do you have any sunny areas in your dwelling? if so there is a solar application that can help you, although it's not very attractive it's practical. It's a passive solar wall, if you have the cash get some fire brick they are dense blocks about 1 kilo each may 20 or 30 of these and paint them black! Stack them in the sunny areas so they get as much sun as possible! They will absorb a lot of heat during the day and help warm you all night, you have to play with it a bit to get the maximum benefits, but this works and has been used for years! tdemex
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
5 Dec 09
Hi TD, suprised, thought you'd left here. I'll describe. Boiler and oil tank external but in a stone bit attached to the house. Radiators inside, whole thing runs off petrolo, no solar applications. My basic question is once it is all turned on is it best to have all the radiators on or is it not necesaary. I want the best option to make the oil last longer and the perfect choice of having the whole lot on all day at full is not an option my pocket allows. All the external bits are modern and and everthing but it needs electric to be on as well or the boiler turns off, so power cut no heat at all. Please advise, my oil comes tomorrow and I don't want to waste it and need to make it last 4 months.
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@vandana7 (102698)
• India
5 Dec 09
Hi thea, you got the right person here. :) I was hoping tdemex would answer this one when I read your introduction. :)
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
5 Dec 09
I know Vandana, I just hope he returns with his experience.
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
5 Dec 09
Here is a linke: www.dawndoesnotdoheaters.com :-)
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• Australia
7 Dec 09
I don't do heaters either - but I'd be interested if there was a switch to turn the sun down.
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Dec 09
Thanks for the BR. Note to self: must do bogus links more often. :-)
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
5 Dec 09
Okay you got me - I know it was stupid but I opened it.
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@ShepherdSpy (8544)
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
5 Dec 09
If there's a chance of your pipes freezing in cold weather,Thea,keep them all on to reduce the risk. If you're economising,if you don't have a thermostat temperature control for the house that you can regulate the whole place with,just turn the radiator valves down a little.some central heating boilers have thermostat controls on them to let you control the output..(At Least,Mine does!)you could turn that down if you have one,so the house doesn't get too warm..The economically minded people say put on a pullover instead of reaching for the boiler "On" Switch..And Think Warm thoughts!
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
5 Dec 09
Hi ShepherdSpy, so glad to see you here, not terribly bright of me to add the word boring to the title. Now lets see,pipes are indoors so won't freeze, the boiler bit is in a built on out bit and the main big pipe goes through the stone wall. A have a thermostat but they put it in a stupid place, right next to a downstairs radiator, the living area is much bigger open plan and upstairs. So if I turn on the radiator next to the theromostat the thermostat turns off when its still cold upstairs. So I tend to leave that one off. I've long been reaching for several jumpers and even a warm coat indoors as last winter was bitter but could have been lovely if I'd been able to run the heat 24/7 at a high heat, I was reduced to essential times on not too hot though. So with the extra info there would you go for turning the unwanted wants part way and the needed ones open fully? I wasted about a quarter of a tank last winter in the first 10 days as the central heating man told me it not to bleed the radiators as it would make them go rusty but when I realised that only half of the biggest one was hot I let the air out of them all and they worked better. Do you think I should do that before I turn the whole system on. Sorry I'm a woman and not many have CH here to ask.
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• Omagh, Northern Ireland
5 Dec 09
CH Guy said NOT to bleed the radiators? they don't work properly if there's air in them! I don't know if there's a recommended procedure for doing the job,but if I find one that's not heating properly or there's cold spots when the system is running,out comes the bleed key..
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
5 Dec 09
Well that's what I did and it slowed the use of the oil right down. Maybe he's trying to justify the money he expects me to pay him to service it each year but I'm not playing anymore, it is way too much money. Just got to remember where I put the key now.It was definitely somewhere safe where I wouldn't lose it.
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• United States
7 Dec 09
if you're in no danger of pipes bursting due to cold,i would definately shut off the radiator in rooms you're not using. you would use more spreading it through the lines whereas if it were only select lines it would most likely heat up faster with less distance to spread and use less.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
7 Dec 09
Thank you Scarlet, this is what I've been after and am inclined to do. It's basically a case of wanting to keep some rooms hot and not others - have you tried this yourself and found it more economical?
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• United States
7 Dec 09
yup-we have a couple of rooms that aren't used most of the time and i can't see heating them.close the doors in the unused rooms tho,if they have doors on them because it keeps any cold air from spilling into the warmer areas.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
5 Dec 09
hi thea me get technical oh no, I am a techno phobe from away back. I would just turn on the ones you will actually need heat from, that makes the most sense to me.But again I am no heater technician so what do I know?
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
5 Dec 09
Hatley if you told me you knew what to do with my central heating I wouldn't take the slightest bit of notice of you as you are as technophobic as I am. Plugs into sockets rings lots of bells. I just wish these Greek men who are supposed to know would stop contradicting each other but it is ingrained in them, I feel like saying this is my central heating we're talking about, not the local elections, but they are just programmed to disagree with each other or offer me a free load of wood for the somba which I keep telling them all is broken.
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
5 Dec 09
When they put my central heating & air in they recommended heating & cooling all the rooms but i don't. i don't like heat in my bedroom & i see no sense in heating or cooloing the spare bedroom so i don't. I have to be frugal to but comfotable i want to be to.
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
6 Dec 09
I'm like hugo, can't sleep in a hot room. I guess u will jave to be the judge & the jury on this one. I just close the vent in my room & that makes me happy.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
5 Dec 09
That's the way I'm thinking of going if I don't get a definitive answer on if that way doesn't break something. I never wanted the radiator in Hugo's room in the first place as he hates being too hot and the room is smaller so heats up more but the central heating man went on about it and it made sense for selling the house.
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• Australia
7 Dec 09
The only central heating here is the sun and if there was a way to turn it down I'd be interested. Sometimes I wonder if the solar hot water on the roof might explode because the water comes out the tap almost boiling. If the same thing applies, air conditioning (cooling) costs more for more rooms.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
7 Dec 09
Hi Cloud, we have the extreme sun in the summer so I know what you mean. It's on full now actually but it will be cold again in an hour and at this time of year it is much warmer outside than in. If we have water in the summer I have to leave the shower running on cold for a while to prevent scalding from the solar, but I've never heard of exploding tanks. The biggest inconveinience is the way the wash basin in the bathroom has been plumbed in somehow so that in the summer it only ever produces hot water, not cold. Bizarre. The man just brought the petrelo round this morning and he says it is ok to just turn some off but he'll send his friend round to check it out. Nice of him as everyone is ordering less oil this winter to save money.
@neildc (17238)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
8 Dec 09
central heating system? well, here in our place, we do not need it. we live in a tropical country so i guess, most people here do not need this kind of system or a machine. i am not sure about the place up north, which is the coolest place here, baguio city. i know they have temperature going down to 5 centigrade.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
8 Dec 09
Hi neil, Greece is meant to be hot for 300 days of the year but it isn't, and each winter gets colder and wetter and longer. In the summer we have intense heat and the winter is cold. Today it is really nice and sunny outside but it does not penetrate indoors at this time of year so takes a long time lift the cold the night.
@cynthiann (18612)
• Jamaica
5 Dec 09
Hi Thea! *waves enthusiastically towards Greece.* Well, don't go by be but I would just turn on the two main ones and any others half way. That makes sense ti me - but don't rely on my response. *Sighs heavily* back to work. Sings gustily: Heigh ho, heigh ho, it's off to work I go'
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
5 Dec 09
Hi Cynthiann, waving enthusiatically back, surely you don't need heating in Jamaica, I imagined that as hot all year round. Mind you I was fooled into thinking that Greece was hot nearly all year which it obviously isn't, but they still lie in the books and say it is. Your response is appreciated and will weigh in the other thousands I'm bound to receive as I put the word 'boring' in the title - not a smart move.
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