Is Orson and Karl Dead?

Lelin, I can't look, I can't read this, I'm saving it all up until the full series is done, please tell me when it is nearly over - once you told me Orson was back I'll have to watch but I've been saving it up for the hols.

I read in another thread; it's perhaps either Orson or Karl. Never been a fan, but with this plane scene, and I saw it on TV too, they are discussion who will be the victim, makes me think whether it's Orson too. If it's Orson, then Bree has gotten her wish after all. The lady blackmailing Angie; is is the nurse in the hospital? Cool, DH is getting more awesome. I love the mystery of the show, even though it's a bit corny for me to watch. I got snippets here and there, and my sibling is so into this so yeah.. healthy dosage of DH at home for sure whenever she's around.

I read somewhere a viewer guessing that it might be Julie in the Christmas house. She had this whole plot mapped out that sounded so much like something DH would do! Like them showing us scenes when it comes back that they didn't show now, Julie showing up late and looking for her dad to give him his car keys. The way this lady put it, she should write for the show,lol! It would cause a LOT of plot twists if it were Julie! But I do think that Lynette will end up losing the twins, so that will be two of the deaths they mentioned. The nurse is another, and the two in the plane. I don't want to think about any of the three in the hut!

It probably isn't Bree and Carl would have a lot of impact in other lives like Julie so it is probably Orson. Don't forget that Lynette was shown grabbing Gabby's daughter out of the way; so are they safe or is the little girl safe and Lynette losing her twins in the crash? Probably it will just mean that Gabby and Lynette will make up and Lynette will go back to work.