Let the law suits begin

Read the Constitution those powers not given the federal government nor denied the states belong to the states. The Federal Government has no right to force you to buy something or pay a fine. No Due process here. IF you are going to rely on the commerce clause of the constitution then remember it could lead to mandatory state control of you heating and cooling because you get the power from another state so the government can regulate it. By the way the Technology is there to do it. What if they decide that you have to buy a new American made car every 3 years to keep the Government Motors in business because they are too big to fail? Sound foolish, that what people said about smoking now look at the smoking bans even in private clubs and private property. Soon you will not be able to drive anything larger than a Mini Cooper because of the government mandates on fuel economy.

I guess they don't want Washington to waste their money, they want to waste their OWN money. At least we know OUR Governor won't be suing, right? Annie

Do you remember when we privatized California's electricity with a little scam called "Enron"? Do you remember the rolling blackouts? Privatization is far worse than anything government run, because their motivation is a for-profit institution, whereas, the government is supposed to be in place to protect our citizens and their needs. When four bad people are together, and three of the four rape a girl, but one doesn't because he didn't have the conscience to, why is he still tried as an accessory? Because he sat idly by while someone needed help from a terrible situation. Are you happy with yourself, bobmnu, playing politics, and leafing meticulously through the constitution to find a loophole that somehow justifies your willing to sit idly by while 40,000 people die each year because they needed help from a terrible situation? And 32 million others are at risk?

Did I say that? Huh - I wonder how my post got translated into "poor American's deserve to die". I was kind enough not to use talking points in my post - do me the same favor by keeping them out of yours.

Right, and anyone who supports it supports the tyranny. Now that that's established, we can all go back to our usual lives - until 2014 when you and me have to make sure we have an adequate plan lest we find ourselves neck deep in penalty fees. Oh goody, I can't wait for 2012.

A victory that will help keep 40,000 people alive each year, and protect an additional 32 million who could have fallen prey at any time sounds like common sense to me. Germany, Japan, Sweden, the Uk, (the list goes on) and now even Iraq, with one billion of the US dollars, have universal health coverage. You think the Americans don't deserve to live?

I will keep you posted. So far I have not heard of any filing yet...but it could take them a few days to do it. If they are smart all 38 will get together and sue as a one group. It would save them money than 38 individual lawsuits. And yes I am advocating people standing up for our constitution. Congress and Obama are NOT above the law. They have to follow it just like we do.

And I do believe murder and torture are illegal. Can you fathom what cancer feels likes, particularly to a child? I am advocating people to stand up for those who desperately need healthcare and to stop selfishly looking for loopholes in a 200 year old constitution whose writers never saw the medical progress or capitalism we see today.

You would advocate sending money to "help them", but somehow turn your back on 40,000 people who die each year, many of them children? Shame shame.

What you are asking the insurance companies to do is to take on more risk with less money. It would be like telling you that you have to work at a job for no increase in pay but you have to supply all the raw material and the tools and other supplies. How many people will drop their insurance to save money and pick it up when they need it? IF I were young and healthy I would gladly pay the few hundred dollars and wait until I got something serious and then get insurance. A small business can drop their insurance and pay the 8% up to the max and still be cheaper. Then the person gets insurance on their own and more than likely we will help them and pay more taxes.

Ladybug just wants a cradle to grave, nanny state. She really believes we have some sort of huggable government that would never abuse their power and only lives to provide us with everything we desire at the expense of those horrible people who had the audacity to succeed and provide for themselves.

Well I think lawsuits are probly the best first move for now. It depends...if they spend from now to November just cramming everything they can down our throats...well we all know what will happen. People will only stand for so much of it before they scream enough.

Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both....Ben Franklin. YOu wonder what is up with us...we wonder what is up with you. Let's face it. We look at things differently. We will never agree. We don't fight for power...we fight for freedom.

Claiming that someone doesn't have common sense for opposing such legislation and then dropping the most grossly overused, innacurate talking point in history seems to directly conflict. I understand that progressives in America want to be both the land that takes the huddled masses and the land that gives entitlements, but common sense suggests that's a recipe for B-A-N-K-R-U-P-T-C-Y. The problem with progressive vision, as lovely as it is, is that it sees from point A (bad, bad America) to point Z (utopia entitlement socially just society) without going through the other multiple dangerous points -- none the least of which is that it is A BAD IDEA to root for power-hungry politicians on the federal level to have gift-wrapped power and carte blanche to force upon states and citizens their will. We are no longer America once that happens. It's no more melting pot. It's no more land of diversity, creation and determination and foresight, etc. It's the land where government says what's right. If that's okay with you, so be it. But dropping that crud about people NOT wanting it being heartless or not having common sense is beyond ridiculous. Progressives have been putting their pieces in place for decades now. All I can say is, we all better hope that guys like matersfish aren't right about how inept and greedy and inherently suspect politicians are.

38 statess are not sueing to stop the healthcare bill. It passed. Most of it wills stand. There is only one thing that they are sueing to have taken out. The mandate. The part that says by FEDERAL law everyone must buy insurance.Because it is a state power. That is it. It won't effect the rest of the bill. If they win...then the judge just makes the feds take that one part out. The judge won't kill the whole bill. Just that one little part. So it won't effect the whole bill. The rest will stand as passed. The feds could have avoided this by just taking the mandate out in the first place.

Removing that mandate helps to defeat the necessity of the bill and its effect.

I hope they stand strong. I am already trying to see what my state is going to do. I am hoping we will be in on the law suit. We have legislation in right now on making it illegal to require health insurance in our state...but it has not been voted on yet. I am hoping it gets pushed up now.

Well at least he voted the will of his people. That is always a great thing. Too bad he did not listen on cap and trade.