Another bipartisan big brother action on the way folks...

@xfahctor (14126)
Lancaster, New Hampshire
June 8, 2010 9:30am CST
Because you might be a gang member, drug dealer or terrorist, you should have to show ID before purchasing a prepaid cell phone. At least that's the logic behind the latest bit of bigbrotherism, in glorious bipartisan harmony, from our benevolent and wise protectors in congress. The idea has been tossed around in a few states already but hasn't seemed to gain much popularity yet (duh!) in many circles. So because Charles Schumer(D) and John Cornyn(R), unable to stand the thought that people in those states want their privacy, have introduced legislation on a national level. This was apparently slipped under the wire at the end of last month, if you knew about it before hand...why the hell didn't you post it? I have been looking for the text of the legislation but I can't find it yet, or even a bill number for that matter. But it pretty much speaks for itself. In addition, your ID would be kept on file for 18 months after the deactivation of the phone. So whats next, ID to buy propane tanks for your grill because of the time's square incident? Anyone wanna toss out suggestions? Wait...never mind, we don't need to be giving them any more ideas. Time to vote them out, all of them. Tell me again how republicans and democrats are different?
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@Rollo1 (16650)
• Boston, Massachusetts
8 Jun 10
One could always buy a supply of phones before the legislation takes effect. But I have been watching the progression of this nanny-state, big brother government and it's not just ridiculous and frightening, it's really unstoppable. The generation coming up is easily seduced by socialism and the concept of government as parent, guardian and ultimate provider. Someone remarked to me the other day about the difference in how things would have been handled when they were kids and the way they are handled today. What might have been considered a teen prank, is now a terrorist crime. There's no intent considered, only zero tolerance. A school-girl with a steak knife in her lunch bag to cut the steak she brought for lunch is immediately arrested for having a "weapon". Yet no one realizes that these restrictions on our liberties haven't resulted in a safer world. It has only resulted in a citizenry that is more scared and less able to defend itself. A citizenry that is losing the confidence in their own ability to self-govern. The Republicans have spent years practicing to look like Democrats so they can get elected (or so they believe). The Democrats are scrambling to try to figure out which side to be on - they really don't want their President to look bad so they've got to go along, they figure. This is why I am only interested in candidates who can state that their views mirror those in the Constitution. Only someone dedicated to those ideals and willing to make hard decisions to come down on the right side of the Constitution can turn us around. Otherwise, we are going to continue to slip further and further away from our history and our foundations. And nothing can stand if it doesn't have a strong foundation.
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@debrakcarey (19921)
• United States
9 Jun 10
There's some tv's that won't work without the remote. lol I agree with you Rollo, at the risk of sounding like an old fogey, things just aren't like they used to be. No one seems surprised that the President lies, that Congress is lazy and acting like a bunch of sheep, following Obama around like he's king or something. Afraid to speak up and when someone does, they're villanized. Anyone who speaks against our fearless leader is villanized. Used to be it was acceptable, even an honorable thing to critisize the politicians when I was a kid. Now you say something against one of them and you are a racist or a nutjob. Yep, never did I think back in eighth grade when I read George Orwell's 1984 and Animal Farm...that I would be LIVING them in my middle age.
• United States
8 Jun 10
I am ready to get into the bipartisan spirit because I am sick and tired of these political lines. I met with one of my local senators a few weeks, and she said there is nothing that can really be done about California's budget right now. I am sick of hearing words like that. Things aren't getting better in this country, they are just getting worse and we are all relying on the politicians to do their jobs and they aren't.
• United States
8 Jun 10
For a politicians, honestly, I don't much of a difference between Republicans and Democrats. They can both lie, cheat, steal, and say things that will make them look good. Honestly, it doesn't matter what party anyone is from: power, money and politics corrupt people.
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@Taskr36 (13923)
• United States
8 Jun 10
I would love to just walk into California. Open up their book of expenditures, and start ripping pages out. The state's biggest problems are spending on entitlement, semi-retired politicians, and environmental regulations. Because of their environmental policies nobody is building new power plants there, forcing them to import energy at whatever price other states, or Mexico, charge. Of course if LA was really serious about their Arizona boycott, they'll be experiencing rolling blackouts anyway.
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• United States
8 Jun 10
California is headed in a direction that is destructive, and it is sad to see because this isn't as bad of a state as people think it is.
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@sierras236 (2740)
• United States
8 Jun 10
This is the same government that allows illegal immigrants to run rampant with no real consequences. Anyone else see the irony here?
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@debrakcarey (19921)
• United States
9 Jun 10
It's worse than ironic, it's down right scarey. That our government chooses to criminalize its citizens and allow non citizens privileges we cannot enjoy, is scarey. We should have spoken up long ago. We were lazy and now this is the consequence.
• United States
9 Jun 10
Yes, we should have. Our rights require constant vigilance.
@xfahctor (14126)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
9 Jun 10
That would be the very same, yep. And yes, guarding our rights takes constant vigilance. Our founders left is a very sacred charge. WE are the ultimate guardians of our liberties...and we have failed them miserably. Surely they look down on us in shame.
@laglen (19779)
• United States
8 Jun 10
x - in this article http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/06/08/politics/main6560321.shtml they mention a bill, but I cannot find hide nor hair of it on opencongress.org so I am thinking they have not presented it yet. But a good point to make is, Jack Cloonan, a former FBI special agent and counterterrorism specialist, said the legislation would not prevent terror plotters from getting access to the communication tools they need. Terrorrists are dumbing down with technology. They are not using the latest and greatest. As far as ideas for Big Brother - how about requiring a fingerprint scan to use a pay phone or using an id to purchase fertilizer? How about a background check for clocks?
@xfahctor (14126)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
9 Jun 10
I am becoming increasingly concerned that more and more, they will begin to have ridiculous requirements on ordinary activities. Anything can be a weapon, ANYTHING. If they are going to do something like this every time someone comes up with a nefarious use for an every day object....we're screwed.
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@Taskr36 (13923)
• United States
8 Jun 10
I'm so glad to hear that these morons are willing to come together in a show of unity to monitor and control out lives. Bipartisanship at its f#@king finest.
• United States
8 Jun 10
LOL...it is about the only thing they have no problem showing bipartisan support for.
@Taskr36 (13923)
• United States
8 Jun 10
Well eventually they'll fight over this and one party will pretend to be against it, you know, like with the Patriot Act.
• United States
8 Jun 10
It does not really count though....because they are just "pretending" to be against it.
@bobmnu (8160)
• United States
8 Jun 10
A year or two after 9/11 a couple of college students were arrested for purchasing all the pre paid cell phones in a community. When the police searched their car they found over 400 pre paid cell phones that they had been buying across the country. They were college students traveling for the summer and were offered a way to pay for the trip by purchasing the phones for a dealer in the south near the college. There was no follow up to this story so I don't know what happened to them. This shows that people will find a way around any stupid law our leaders can dream up. Laws like this convince me that our leaders have too much time on their hands and need to get a real job.
@debrakcarey (19921)
• United States
9 Jun 10
No,they all need to be shipped to the nearest country with a despot, tyrant for a ruler. See how they like having their freedoms stripped from them and having no say in what happens to them. This is not just lazy people getting elected, this is criminals running the show.
@xfahctor (14126)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
9 Jun 10
I remember that story actually. It magically went away when nothing further could be found on them...funny how that works eh?
@nancyrowina (3850)
9 Jun 10
That's pointless anyway as those phones of ten get sold on and you can just replace the sim card and it's untracebale anyway. Whoever actually bought the phone is irreleavent by the time it's been passed around groups of friends a hundred times and had the number changed etc.
@xfahctor (14126)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
9 Jun 10
Another get-around is to walk up to some drunk and offer them a bottle to go in and buy you a phone. Terrorist gets phone, poor drunk get's arrested when phone is used as a bomb detonator.
• United States
8 Jun 10
I hate it when they slip crap like this past me. I try to keep up with them but sometimes stuff gets done and I don't know about it.They can be tricky little weasels. I am sure most of the world did not know about it. The media sure as heck did not cover it. Why should we have to show ID to buy a prepaid cell phone. Nothing illegal in buying a prepaid phone. Why should our information be kept on record? Isn't this an invasion of privacy? Before you know it...we won't have a right to any privacy at all. There is NO difference really between the democratic and republican parties. THey are just two sides of the same coin. Neither respects our rights or our constitution. Both sides us BS "issues" to try and keep people on "their" side and pitted against the "other" side just to stay in power. As BCMike has said it is all a bull fight. We are the bull...the politicans are the fighter...and the red cape is the BS they distract us with so we don't really see what is happening to us or this country.
@xfahctor (14126)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
9 Jun 10
I sincerely hope someone challenges this, perhaps on 4th amendment issues. And yes...good ol' Mike. I use his bull fight analogy quite often. He is one of the few decent politicians left in the world. Though I hesitate to use the word politician for him because it is such a dirty word these days.
• United States
9 Jun 10
The Repubs. and the Demo.s are not different they are politicians in every sense of the word and if they have control over everything then they have jobs longer. Everyone needs to step up and start voting for other parties or for those with the brains to do so get out there and run for something!
@dawnald (84069)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Jun 10
Well d*mn, I am going to have to stop my evil stalking ways... Well, Republican is spelled "Republican" and Democrat is spelled "Democrat"...