Passing it on.

@hvedra (1619)
June 16, 2010 10:11am CST
Why is it that some of the longer lived, more popular pagan and esoteric belief are those that don't prosthelytise, don't go recruiting and do not admit children? Trads such as Wicca (big W) have survived with limits on initiation. Certainly the various occult orders such as the OTO, Rosicrucians, Golden Dawn, Society of Light, etc don't undertake to admit children and only accept as members those who have sought them out. Certainly within the Heathen community you get the odd rallying call that "we must preserve the old ways for our children" or "it is our duty to teach our children" and so on. Why? To me it smacks of the kind of prosthelytising and recruiting that certain other religions are known for. Many forms of paganism have been dormant for centuries but have been revived without any "passing it on" to children or recruitment being involved. Others are actually new beliefs, put together only a few decades, years or months ago - they will succeed or fail based on their own merits, not the training of the current adherents offspring. The argument about "teaching your kids" is a strange one. My parents weren't pagan, had I been trained by them I'd be firmly entrenched in the Church of England had it worked. Is it, as I suspect, an attempt to turn kids into the perfect Priest/ess, Druid or Gothi that the parents aren't? All that vicarious fulfillment! This is no better than forcing a child into ballet slippers or football boots because it is what the parent wanted to be.
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@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
17 Jun 10
I"m Pagan but not Wiccan and I am also a Solitary so there are only MY rules..that said..as far as my kids go. yes I've taught them my beliefs BUT I would NEVER EVER bring my kids into it..Instead I am a firm believer in letting the children become educated on a wide variety of paths and religions etc and then let them eventually decide for themselves...Ended up that at this point, my daughter (15) follows my Buddhist ways and leans a little towards Paganism but my son (almost 17) however is Atheist...
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@hvedra (1619)
23 Jun 10
I've got no probs with kids being taught the essence of a trad but it gets a bit weird when parents EXPECT their kids to adopt it and make odd statements about "our religion relies on our children" kind of thing. What a thing to burden a kid with! If folk teach their kids religion it should be for the benefit of the kid, not the religion. Thanks for your response!
@2004cqui (2812)
• United States
17 Jun 10
I could go on and on about this one. But I think the answer to your question is because the beliefs you list are lacking one thing. A central entity that requires money to continue to exist. Rather than teaching to love others and everything, we are taught to shun anything different so the central "office" can continue to rake in dough. Hence, it will be a long time before discrimination ceases to exist, if ever. I once worked with a woman who was a natural born leader. I knew she was Wicca but didn't discover it's force until one day she was inordinately proud of me for a job well done. She gave me a neck message. She barely touched me. For the next 5 minutes I was a relaxed "puddle". Later, after leaving the company it dawned on me. She's a witch! She can channel positive energy from the earth, etc! I hope to meet her again some day and thank her for sharing her gift!
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@hvedra (1619)
23 Jun 10
I think you are right about the lack of central entity (although some of the magical orders are very organised and certainly have their own resources). We should always ask "... what does your God need money for?"
@celticeagle (189793)
• Boise, Idaho
16 Jun 10
Maybe they are giving their children the chose. I agree with following in the way of the old but maybe the youth do not want to. Maybe some of these people do not want to share these beliefs with their children for some reason. I think if the children want to follow in their folks ways then they need to get started. Maybe there is a communication brake down somewhere along the way. If the kids don't know they are welcome or don't feel a need then why would they? And if their parents don't think they want to be a part of it why would they?
• United States
24 Jun 10
I wasn't raised Pagan but I have intentions of raising my children Pagan. I am not going to force it on them or tell them it is the only thing they can believe in. If they get older and choose to be Christian or something else then I will support them. I feel that many people who are Pagan have a more open mind and a more think for yourself attitude. That is how I am and those are good qualities to want your children to have. I want my children to know that you can ask question about your own religion, question its validity, practices, history etc. and choose the religion or beliefs that fit them. I am also a solitary practitioner and so I am not very knowledgeable in the ways of how Wiccan occult orders function or who they let in or do not. But anyone can start their own coven with like minded practitioners and for a teen or young Pagan that is a good start if they are wanting to someday join a larger coven. I think most parents have a desire to raise their children in their own image because most parents and adults in general believe they are not necessarily perfect, but not bad people either, even if other people see them differently. One example would be I was watching a show I think it was Wife Swap or something and one family was like punk/rocker or whatever and they wanted their kids to be different and not follow and conform, but they were forgetting that little kids do that sort of thing and it is that sort of interaction that helps them figure out who they are later on. So their daughter who was like 9 wanted to go do cheer leading with her friends but her parents didn't really want her to do it because they didn't like cheer leading. So really they were holding their daughter back from an activity she enjoyed and a chance to be active and socialize because they wanted her to conform to THEIR ways. Anyway I understand they want their kids to grow up able to think for themselves and not afraid to be different but they were forgetting that little kids are just kids and they should just be concerned with having fun and exploring and just being a kid and that in parenting forcing your kids into the same mold you came from won't always work and usually has bad results. Let them figure things out for themselves and things are more likely to work out.
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