Plus size models in New York

@oldchem1 (8132)
September 10, 2010 3:24am CST
I was pleased to see that at last a fashion show in New York is goiung to feature + sized models (that is US size 12 (UK size 16) and above). When you think that the majority of women are wearing these sizes I think it's about time we are shown clothes on 'real' women and not on anorexic stick insects. I know that a lot of people claim that this only adds to teh obesity problem in the wowrld, but a UK size 16 on someone my height (5'10") is perfect for my ideal weight and BMI, at almost 60, if I start going any thinner I look positively ill!! What do you think about these models - should we be shown the clothes on more realistic sized women?
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@madteaparty (2748)
• Japan
11 Sep 10
I have always found ridiculous the "more realistic sized women" thing. I know that nobody likes being fat, and that there's a majority of fat people in most of developed countries, but that doesn't make only overweight people "real". It's really ridiculous how this society has turned so pro-fat insulting always thin people. It's ok to call people with a nice and slender body "stick", but you're horrible if you mention someone that he/she's overweight.
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@GardenGerty (169406)
• United States
11 Sep 10
The sizes mentioned in this discussion are not fat. We need to be tolerant of size and genetic differences. If I were that size, I would be at a correct weight, not overweight.
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@oldchem1 (8132)
11 Sep 10
Exactly - my BMI is normal and yet I am a UK 16 - I do not class that as fat and yet it is classed as + size!!
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13 Sep 10
I am very lucky and manage to keep fairly slim without too much problem but I feel so very sorry for people who do suffer with weight problems and seem to just get ridiculed. I have friends who are on the large size but do not stuff their face on junk food all day.
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@GardenGerty (169406)
• United States
11 Sep 10
A US size 12 would be absolutely skinny for me. I think it is about time that the real world and the fashion world had a meeting of the minds. You are also correct about size being proportionate to height. I know some very skinny tall girls, and they look definitely ill.
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@oldchem1 (8132)
11 Sep 10
I so agree, I think women with bones showing through look positively ugly, I feel like making them a sandwich!!
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• United States
11 Sep 10
LOL...yes, size 12 is still pretty small. I'd like to see some size 26 or 28 models out there. That's more my size. To call anything under a size 20 (US) a plus size is a misnomer!
• United States
10 Sep 10
I think that models should be more realistic because not everyone is a size 6 (or size 0). Most "real" women have curves and are big women. The average dress size in America for women is a size 14. Yes, a size 14! I know that many of my friends are the same size that I am (I am a 12 to 14, which a huge change from the size that I used to be which was a 20). Yeah, many of the models I see on the runways look like they are anorexic, and they don't look healthy. You tend to wonder about them, and to actually have women who are big going down the runways is a cool things.
• United States
11 Sep 10
Yeah, totally. Big ladies should be in clothes that look great on them. You should be able to walk down a runway no matter what your size.
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@oldchem1 (8132)
11 Sep 10
Larger ladies want to see what the clothes look like3 on people with their shape and size too!!
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@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
10 Sep 10
I don't consider those plus sizes, but they are realistic sizes for NORMAL women and its just as unhealthy to be anorexic as it is to be obese...
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@oldchem1 (8132)
10 Sep 10
I do so agree
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• United States
10 Sep 10
Yeah...you're not really plus size till you're at least a US size 20!
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@rhodzptc (1317)
• Philippines
10 Sep 10
I think the answer is yes because on my point of view with this new trend of fashion you must not think that only sexy and thin girls should wear your designed dress you must also think about the right market. As you may noticed more and more women and men in our society are plus size and they are having trouble to find a nice pair of dress for good occasion because of their sizes.
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@oldchem1 (8132)
11 Sep 10
It certainly is!! Let's here it for the + ladies!!
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@Memnon (2170)
12 Sep 10
I totally agree that clothes should be modelled on real people, rather than the likes of Kate Moss. Obesity may be a problem, but so is anorexia.
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@oldchem1 (8132)
12 Sep 10
Exactly, and sasly so many young people are gullible enough to follow these people
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@cher913 (25781)
• Canada
10 Sep 10
that it is good to hear. not everyone is a size 4. in fact, the average size of north american woman used to be 10, it has now risen to a size 12 (i am in between the two most days).
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@wongchoiyee (7413)
• Malaysia
11 Sep 10
I have never seen a plus size models. If they going to make it now, I guess it will spread all over the world to do the same. Just curious if all the women in the world are stick thin...haha
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@Humbug25 (12540)
10 Sep 10
Hi ya oldchem1 I think this is great. I am slightly larger than I should be and feel uncomfortable in the clothes that I do have. Not becuase they are ill fitting but just because some of the clothes I wear to cover up make me look positively bigger than I am! There definately is a market out there and there are more and more people of that sort of size these days. I don't think it will add to the obesity problem. I lived out in America for nearly 3 years and I was sure that a US size 12 was a UK 14, oh well
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@oldchem1 (8132)
10 Sep 10
The dress sizes were courtesy of the BBC so I'm not 100%
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• India
10 Sep 10
Hello chem I don't have exact idea about this US size 12 and UK size 16, but i guess they are big size no doubt, in india the latest trend is slim, i see many girls and guys, they look like 'sticks' rather, i really hate the look.. Well i am 6'3", weigh 95 kg and my friends say i look neither obese nor slim, just the right what one should be at age of 65 LOL Thanks for sharing. Welcome always, cheers. Professor. .
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@oldchem1 (8132)
10 Sep 10
Well professor you sound just perfewct to me!!
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@2004cqui (2812)
• United States
10 Sep 10
Rarely do I see a real woman who is stick slim! There are a few out there but for the most part I've found the stick slim people I've come to know are spending entirely too much time focusing on their looks. Their closets are the size of my bedroom! The mirror is their closest companion. Lets see some decent, realistic style shows!
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@oldchem1 (8132)
10 Sep 10
Hear, hear !! I echo your scentiments
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@juryse (752)
• Philippines
11 Sep 10
I think it's about that time that fashion shows the real sizes of women around the world. Not just the thin ones.
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@JayJay45 (157)
• United States
10 Sep 10
I like the idea of a plus size model/plus size fashion show. Seeing how the clothes look on a larger woman helps us to visualize how it will look on us....I don't think it adds to the obesity problem, most of the US population is overweight, but that doesn't mean we don't want to look our best while we try to slim down!
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@oldchem1 (8132)
10 Sep 10
Exactly, it's good for woman who are slightly larger to learn how to dree to their best advantage
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10 Sep 10
I certainly do think that this is agood idea and size 16 (UK) is hardly ovese - Marilyn Monroe was that size and her body was adored by many people. I would rather be a 16 than a 6 !!
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@oldchem1 (8132)
10 Sep 10
That is very true, I do think also that most men prefer a few curves to skin and bones!!
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@alaskanray (4636)
• United States
10 Sep 10
The media has always painted plus size women as pigs who eat incessantly, which is not reality. Personally, I eat as healthy as I can and yet I am still unable to lose weight. What many folks fail to realize is that unrealistic role models (your standard models) makes it all that harder to visualize a healthy weight for individual body types. The facts are that more often than not, overweight women miss more meals than those at the "ideal" weight. Missing meals causes the body to kick into "starvation mode" and lower its metabolism. When women are genetically predisposed to obesity, the attempts to diet and lose weight invariably backfires until, like me, they finally give up. Most of my current weight (I currently am DOWN to 290)was acquired through a miserable pregnancy when I was put on bedrest for 14 weeks. I peaked at 343 when my daughter was little, much of which was water weight. I've been on diuretics since then. A full 25 pounds of it was pure water. The point I am making, I guess, is that no one can judge an overweight person until they have actually lived in their body. My hero is Queen Latifah who has shown that a heavy woman can be healthy and beautiful. I would love to see more women like her in the public eye rather than Oprahs who deny their heavy nature and starve themselves to become the "model". Queen makes no apologies for her size and instead shows a wonderfully stylish attitude, working with her size rather than against it.
• United States
11 Sep 10
True! And the movies you see make heavy people out to be so gross...the Madea films and Nutty Professor come to mind. I would never eat an entire chocolate cream pie in one sitting! Not only that, but heaviness comes in degrees, too. But in the films you only see skinny or fat, nothing in between. It just really gets my dander up. At one point I was down to a size 18 (just before I got pregnant with my daughter) and feeling pretty darn good about it. I was doing some window shopping, looking at some swimsuits in the window of a shop and this teenage girl shouts across the street at me, "It'll never fit, lady!" As if she was sooooo funny! I asked her, "You got a problem?" She said, "You've got a big butt!" I said, "Yeah, well you've got a big mouth! Want me to come shut it for you?" Now, for me, a size 18 is a great size to be. I would happily be an 18 for the rest of my life and never want to be thinner. But the public sees any size with double digits as "fat". Forget that my bones are so big as to bust off the charts. ("large" bones on the weight chart measures a 6 1/2 to 7" wrist...my wrist is 7 1/2") For me, 200 pounds looks good and is healthy. When I was that size 18, I was weighing in at 210. The point is that stereotypes are false. We never know what is right for someone else because we are all individuals and don't always fit the molds that society makes for us.