Please remind me...who is responsible for this again?
By lilwonders
@lilwonders456 (8214)
United States
November 12, 2010 1:25pm CST
San Francisco is trying to ban the happy meal. Or at least the toy that comes with it, if McDonald's does not make healthier meals. It is not just Micky D's they are going after...all fast food places with have to make their kids meals healthier or no toys.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/6003052/san_francisco_mayor_will_veto_ban_on.html?cat=5
Um...SF..excuse me a minute...but isn't it up to the parents? I mean after all it is THEIR kids we are talking about.
Sure my kids see the commericals. Sure they ask to go to Micky D's. But as a parent I say NO. I tell them why too. I tell them that it is junk food and not healthy for them. Sure they ask for the toy that comes in the happy meal...but I explain to them that those toys are not safe because they are made in China. I use it as a opportunity to teach them about making responsible decisions. I do let them eat fast food...but only a few times a year and only on speical occassions or as a treat. I never let them get the toy. Too many recalls. I don't trust them.
Anyone have an issue with this? I never bought into the whole "it takes a village" thing when it comes to kids. They are mine and I will make the decisions.
Also for parents that think this is a good idea...how about putting on your big girl and big boy pants on and tell your kids no once in a while. Parents today do not want to tell their kids no. They want to be a "friend" instead of a parent. They don't want to be the one to upset or make their kids mad...well guess what...that is what being a parent is all about.They want the government to handle things instead of them actually being parents and doing it themselves.
Don't like the food they serve...don't eat there. Don't let your kids eat there. No one is forcing you to eat there or buy your kids food there. Problem solved WITHOUT government interferance. Wow...what a concept.
Now did we really need to waste tax dollars on this or micro-manage other peoples' lives?
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
12 Nov 10
"Sure they ask to go to Micky D's. But as a parent I say NO."
Maybe you do and maybe you don't lil. The fact is, we just can't take that chance. It's not that the government doesn't trust you per se, it's just that all us little people are stupid. I mean, we're already too stupid to save for our retirement which is why we're forced into a Ponzi scheme. Now they're just trying to nip our stupidity in the bud by raising our children for us.
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I really am amazed at how powerful these nanny-staters have become. You'd think that after bankrupting the most populous state in the country with their crap that they'd actually realized how screwed up they are, but they just keep going farther. You're too stupid to save for retirement. You're too stupid to properly homeschool your child. You're too stupid to properly FEED your child. At this rate eventually retaurants, car dealerships, grocery and clothing stores in California will be closed and everyone will just wear their state issued attire, eat their state issued meals, drive state issued environmentally friendly cars, live in state regulated housing (with white roofs to reduce global warming) and just do whatever labor the state assigns them because they're too stupid to choose their own career anyway.
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@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
12 Nov 10
What is scarey is the people that want exactly that and want to force it on the rest of us.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
12 Nov 10
The push is from a bunch of wingnuts who think force of government is the answer to everything. They would ban parents raising kids at all if they could get away with it.
Read Anthem by Ayn Rand for an example of life as they would have it.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
12 Nov 10
People like that tick me off. Back off...they are my kids and I (not them) will make the decisions.
I am a book junky so thanks for letting me know about the book. Although I don't think my blood preasure will thank you for it. LOL.
Isn't it surprising that the "pro choice" group wants you to have the choice if you have children...but not how to raise them. Anyone explained to them that they are being hypocrites?
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
12 Nov 10
For many "pro choice" extends only to abortion, nothing else.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
12 Nov 10
"They would ban parents raising kids at all if they could get away with it."
Oh California is closer to that then you can imagine. Parents aren't even allowed to TEACH their own children anymore unless the "government" says they're qualified.
http://articles.sfgate.com/2008-03-07/news/17170360_1_appeals-court-credential-parents
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
14 Nov 10
What exactly do they consider kids meal. Obviously a happy meal is a kids meal but is a junior whopper, a small coke, and a small fry a kids meal? As to this kids meal thing what exactly is so unhealthy about it oppose to anything else on the menu, and why does the toy matter? They put the cheapest and boring toys in the happy meals anyways. So I am missing what the luring appeal of those happy meal toys are. I can remember when I was a kid never wanting a happy meal but a burger like my parents.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
15 Nov 10
Happy meal toys have gotten especially lame it seems. We got one a few months ago and it was some cheap "Plastic Man" piece of garbage. Today my father in law brought home one that was supposed to be a spinning top/robot that really just rolled on its side. Back when I was a kid I actually liked the toys when you could get a toy truck or something cool.
Either way if the toy is what the kid wants, toys don't make anyone obese. I'll eat the crappy burger and give my kid the toy if there's actually a toy worth having.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
15 Nov 10
You know you can go through the drive through and only buy the toy. It will cost you a dollar or something like that. My sister did it one time when they were doing pokemon cards. My nephew wanted them. So she bought the cards and not the food.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
15 Nov 10
Yep those toys are boring. The kids probly play with them for what 15 minutes then they forget about it and want a different toy.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
12 Nov 10
That is certainly what some people think. Why have kids if you do not want to be a parent?
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@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
13 Nov 10
Lil, seeing how you have younger kids, I am sure that you have had one of them wanting to go to McDonalds so they can get a happy meal because of the toy, not the food. I am sure that you also know that it is much cheaper to get junk food than healthy food. That is why some are calling for a tax on junk food.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
13 Nov 10
So lil, and any other parent, can say the word "NO". It's one of the first words kids understand and there's a good reason for it. Children must learn to deal with disappointment. It's truly pathetic that there are people who would rather the government raise their child. I don't see why we now need an extra tax on food that liberals don't want us to eat.
I've eaten crappy McDonald's food throughout my life and aside from injuries that have nothing to do with nutrition, I'm a pillar of health. Kids are obese because they spend too much time sitting in a classroom watching their a$$es grow due to the fact that schools are canceling recess and gym while extending school days in some pathetic attempt to compete with other countries using children as pawns.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
14 Nov 10
Debater, I think you know exactly how asinine your argument is. I can drink non-toxic soap and eat clay, that doesn't make it food and water.
Sin taxes are popular because they target unpopular minorities. The taxes in and of themselves are garbage because the supposed goal is to alter behavior, but at the same time they are touted as a great way to increase revenue so those pushing them actually WANT people to engage in that behavior.
I personally feel that we already pay more than enough taxes and what we need are spending cuts, not MORE taxes. There's an entirely different thread addressing that issue though.
The point here is that PARENTS should be raising their kids and deciding what they eat, not a bunch of left wing nanny-staters. California has already bankrupted themselves with this king of crap and yet they just can't seem to stop. I really wish liberals outside of that state would look and see exactly what those policies would do to this country if they were implemented.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
13 Nov 10
Taskr, like anything else it isn't the "good parents" that are causing problems. We tax many things that cause health problems, and cost all of us more money. Why not fast food? Would you be willing to tax fast food instead of taxing your for your health care? You could raise up to $3 Billion if you taxed fast food 5%, and most of us wouldn't even know it. If that money was used to pay for health care for those who increase our rates because of their obesity, wouldn't it make sense? Much like what we charge people who drink, and smoke.
@hofferp (4734)
• United States
13 Nov 10
I don't have kids, but I can guarantee you, if I did, they'd hear the word "No" a lot. I kept my great nephew and niece for four months last year while their Mom recuperated. Not once did we stop at McD. Even though I hate to cook, we ate at home...breakfast and dinner. And the kids thought the food was great! Go figure?
San Francisco? I use to like to visit, but the last several times I've gone to see my brother in Santa Rosa, about an hour north of SF...we pass on going to SF. I have little in common with the people who live there/vote.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
15 Nov 10
That is the problem. Parents don't want to tell their kids no. They want the government to do it for them. It is a good thing for kids to hear the word no. It is also great for them to learn WHY you said no. That way they learn something from it. Not just can't always get what you want...but also how to make good decisions. If they learn it as kids...they will know it as adults.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
13 Nov 10
I heard something about this while running around today and this has got to be right up there with the top ten stupid moves by government. What's next, is San Fran going to ban parents from buying their children toys at all unless they prove that they're feeding them government approved healthy meals?
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
13 Nov 10
You know what's worse? It passed almost UNANIMOUSLY. The mayor said in advance that he'd veto it, but that's irrelevant now since it passed with a veto proof majority. I'd certainly veto it anyway, and he probably will, it's just sad that there are so many nanny-staters in positions of power now.
