'The Boy'......

@mommyboo (13174)
United States
December 23, 2010 8:16pm CST
I know a lady who calls her son 'The Boy'. She has been doing this for years. The kid has a NAME and all of us that talk to her regularly knows his name. We know HER name. We know her HUSBAND'S name. Those of us who have met her parents know THEIR names. We know her nieces' names. Does it seem strange to you at ALL that she refers to her son as 'The Boy'? That's even how she writes it. She does this on facebook, in emails, in letters. I find it bizarre. Do you find it bizarre?? Would YOU ever call your child(ren) 'The Boy' or 'The Girl' or.... 'The Twins', etc? I think it's so impersonal and cold to not use their names.
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@cssiduyz (1053)
• Indonesia
24 Dec 10
I think this is common to use a lot of people who call like that to a child or their close relatives. because maybe they think it is normal and is no stranger to tell them without mentioning his name. and I also experienced it until now. and I accept it because it is difficult to hope that they do not call me like that.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
24 Dec 10
Common? If it were common, then say there's a regular group of 12 of us moms, or maybe two groups of 8. Within my group of 8 that includes this mom, SHE is the only person who refers to her son as 'The Boy'. Within my other group of 8 that doesn't include nor involve this mom, NONE of us refer to any of our children as 'The Boy' or 'The Girl'. The one I know who has twins refers to them by name. Sometimes when they were younger she'd call them 'the boys', but I do that too... if i have a bunch of boys at the house, I do call them 'the boys', or if it's girls 'the girls', or of course 'the kids'. Those seem more normal though. Other ways I might refer would be of course their names, using first initials, my son, my daughter, my friend's son, my friend's daughter, etc etc. All of those seem much more personable and friendly and loving towards the child than 'the boy' or 'the girl'.
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
24 Dec 10
I will usually refer to them as the oldest, the youngest, the 4 year old, the twins, the kids, the boys, etc. When I talk to people who know the kids I'll tend to use their names, unless I'm talking about the twins. Rarely will I say T__ and T___ I'll just say "the twins" even if I'm talking to hubby or anyone else. I think many parents of twins or more group them together like that.. it's really no different than saying "the kids" when you're talking about the whole group. Personally I wouldn't see this as being cold or strange.. it's just her way. I used to have a friend who found it annoying that another friend constantly called her son "little man" instead of using his name. It's just a way to refer to someone.. at least she's not calling him a bad name or referring to him as a little monster or hellian or something like that.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
24 Dec 10
Well.. for example, I call one of my friend's kids 'buddy'.. I must've picked it up from my friend and her husband. However, we ALL also refer to him by his NAME. I would never but NEVER refer to my daughter as 'the girl'. If I had twins, I would really try to use their names, because I hear from a lot of twins or other multiples that they kind of resent being referred to as a unit constantly by people. I think if I were a twin it would bother me too after awhile - like hey, I'm ME, by myself, i'm not part of my sister. Another thing, I think it's normal too in kind of 'acquaintance' or 'stranger' territory to say things like 'my oldest this' and 'my younger that' or 'my son' or 'my daughter', however with this situation, all the people who interact with her and see this stuff on a regular basis have known her since her son was less than a year. He's 5 years old now.... and we aren't strangers. It can't possibly be a privacy issue, that's what I'm saying. To me, if it were 'normal' behavior, then at least ONE of us would also do it, but recently all of us were discussing how odd we think it is lol.
@djbtol (5493)
• United States
24 Dec 10
I don't know the lady so I won't assume that she means any harm toward her son. Probably started off like a nickname and then just became a habit. I do not thing it is a good thing to call him the boy. First of all, it seems like he is just a boy, just one of many. Whereas, if she would call him by his name, he could feel unique and special in that. As you pointed out, she does not call other people by such a generic title. So she may be communicating to her son that he is less than all those people. Very bad approach for a parent. Guess you will have the honor of communicating some of these cautions to her.
@djbtol (5493)
• United States
25 Dec 10
I think your reaction to being away from your daughter for the first time is normal for many moms, and it is a good thing. It shows the deep emotional love bond that you have with your child. I also think it is more typical of women to get on the phone and talk to friends at such a time. Merry Christmas.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
25 Dec 10
I don't know how her son feels about it, he's still a little boy. This is just one oddity of several.... I remember when I was struggling with the fact that my daughter was going to be going to preschool two days a week and I was going to be alone for almost 3 hours, this woman gleefully said 'OH, well I CANNOT WAIT till the boy starts preschool'. And I said 'really, you won't miss him tons?' and she goes 'no, I can't wait to have some time to myself. He's going to go every day for a full day'. I was speechless. I cried the first time I dropped my daughter off at preschool. NOT in front of her mind you, but in the car in the parking lot lol. I spent the next 3 hours on the phone with several friends and then I went to pick her up and get lunch and ice cream. The second day I took her was much easier lol. I just think about how I would feel. If my mother referred to me as 'the girl' to her friends, I think I would be ill.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
26 Dec 10
Thank you! I've been having a wonderful Christmas! How is yours?
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
24 Dec 10
mommygoo thats so scary as if she does not really care for him, the boy how bizarre is that. It is very strange and reminds me of that set of three books, the Child Called It, The man named Dave and I forget the name of the third. HIs mom was abusive and just plain odd and mebgtakt twisted.No my son was always Robbie and still is. We had a different sort of thing ib a way ,my second born was a sweet,loving loveable little girl who was born not breathing and because they would not do a caesarian section on me she had to be resuscitated. so she had some brain damage.each day I wo uld call her by her name but still she wou ld call pick baby up mommy. and I would say Lisa you know your name honey.you are Lisa Rose, so she would repeat it Lisa, mommy pick up Lisa baby. okay so she would always be our ba by for 8 short years.People were amazed when they learned she was handicapped as she acted in a lot of ways like a really smart child but for examp;le I could never toliet tranin her and lord knows i did try.But she was o ur little love and I suppose we sometimes said oh the baby is sleeping hush but my son alwas canned her Lisa,he was just barely a year older but actually he was only 11 months older than she was.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
24 Dec 10
hi again the book is the child named It by dave pelzer and the next book is called A Man named Dave and there is a third book. he was a vbrave child to live through what he did. they are well worth reading.His writing is wonderful and you would enjoy it too.
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• United States
24 Dec 10
Dave Pelzer is my hero. I love him to pieces! When I think of all that man has overcome in his life to be where he is at today.... It inspires me to feel better and do better in my own life.
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• United States
24 Dec 10
Hatley- I've had many a student read that book for reports and it is a fascinating story indeed! Well worth the read. Namaste-Anora
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
24 Dec 10
Hi mommyboo! (I miss you my gf)! I think that this is so disgusting! How could this woman degrade and disrespect her own son like this? How can she talk about her own child in this way? I totally don't understand and never will. I have no children of my own, but have a few "like children" and can't imagine doing something so mean, cruel and dispicable to any child. I hope this poor child will be ok and grows up to let her know exactly how disgusting a mother she is!
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
26 Dec 10
I miss you too! How have you been? Are things okay? I've had a nice relaxing Christmas - I'm really doing as little as possible now because... I'm sore lol. I'm not honestly sure what the deal is with her, that's one reason I thought I'd ask the community here for input. People are pretty honest here, and it looks like most people think it's as odd as I think it is.
• United States
24 Dec 10
Does she ever use his given name? I at times when joking with the hubby may refer to our son as "the boy" from the old Cosby bit, and it is generally after our son has done something he should not have done. Not a referral link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKP2J1iZeTQ I can see not mentioning her son's name on Facebook, she may not want everyone and his brother to know her son's name and that is acceptable. Namaste-Anora
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
24 Dec 10
GAH this just ate my response. I had said that occasionally she refers to him by his name, but usually only in person. Even over the phone she'll say 'The Boy' sometimes. I mean, it would not strike me as weird if she didnt want to use his name to say 'my son' but I am not sure I've ever heard her say 'my son'. As far as the idea of not wanting everybody to know - she has a small friends list and they are all people she knows, and we ALL KNOW HER SON'S name.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
25 Dec 10
When I was thinking about it, she has a hard time making friendships with other people too. Like I pretty much feel like she is just somebody I know, I don't call her or text her and we don't exchange christmas cards or get together so our kids can play. I think her son LIKES Ali but Ali is just about 2 years older than he is, so they dodn't have much in common. She used to harrass a few good friends of mine by asking them if they had heard from me - every week pretty much. We got to a point where they would answer 'yes' or 'no' and change the subject, no matter how she pried lol. I have been thinking about this and she NEVER calls him 'my son'. She uses his name... sometimes his whole name, especially if he's in trouble, or she calls him 'The Boy'. I'm at a loss lol. I used to think she was very nice, but she can be more than a bit overbearing about... well almost anything.
• United States
24 Dec 10
That is just plain odd then. Does your friend have a mental disorder or something? No offense, but maybe she's just not able to attach emotionally? I really haven't ever encountered this sort of thing among my own friends. We all use our child's name.
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@silentwill (1685)
• Philippines
24 Dec 10
Maybe we're all looking at it at the wrong angle and calling her son "The Boy" is actually her term of endearment for the child? Has anyone asked her about it? I remember a local actor who passed away a few years ago who people call "Daboy." He was very well-known by that nickname which translates to the boy {it's due to the fact that old versions of the Filipino alphabet do not recognize hard and soft th, they're just D's and T's to most of us). I think calling him that somehow made his fans feel closer to the late actor as if knowing him personally.
• United States
24 Dec 10
I wonder if it means she doesn't respect her son?
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
26 Dec 10
I'm not sure..... I'm not very close to her any more so perhaps there are reasons I'm really not aware of, but at the same time, I generally avoid people who parent in ways I don't want my daughter exposed to. She catches onto things and will ask me questions if something is just 'off' enough to make you raise an eyebrow, but she's 6, and sometimes she doesn't realize that it can be very bad to ask questions about someone IN FRONT OF THEM lol.
@LadyMarissa (12148)
• United States
24 Dec 10
Yes, I do find it odd & extremely cold & impersonal!!! You didn't say; but, is he the only boy in the family??? Twins were prevalent in my family & they were always called "the twins" when speaking to others...both by their parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc. I always wondered why??? I used to date a guy whose sister had the only child in the family & they called her "the baby" until she was 13 years old. Every time he spoke of her to me & called her "the baby", I'd correct him & say do you mean...(& call her by her name). I pointed out to him one day that she was NO longer a baby as she had developed breasst...indicating she was developing into a woman!!!! My brother NEVER calls his wife by her name when speaking to others (including our family). He always says "My wife said"... This irritates the crap out of me!!!! I have also noticed that his son is developing the same habit now that he's married. Here on the Lot I say "my hubs" for the first husband & "my hubby" for the last one. However, when speaking to my family or friends, I do call them by their given names!!!!
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
26 Dec 10
He is an only child.... but I think there are other boys in the family, extended family anyway. I know he has cousins so there ARE other people in the extended family.... I'm not sure why it bugs me when people group up kids and call them 'the twins' or 'the triplets' or 'the sisters' all the time. I don't mind so much 'the girls' or 'the boys' but use names too! Names are important lol. Hehe, my daughter's friend.... they used to call him 'Baby E' because he has the same name as his dad. NOW if you slip and call him 'Baby E' he gets ALL BENT because as you know, he is SIX and SIX is NOT a baby... his brother called him that one time when I was over there and he goes BUBBA, I am NOT BABY! It was really funny... he was stomping up the stairs!
@sulynsi (2669)
• Canada
26 Dec 10
I read your post with interest, because it may be a rotten parent here, but actually a manifestation of Asperger's syndrome, a form of autism. I've seen this behaviour before, in a relative. He doesn't refer to people by what he views as illogical terms, but calls my dog "funny furry thing" rather than her name. He refers to "my aunt" or "my father" or "my sister", as if I don't know the person of whom he is talking. I have done some reading on this subject, and it is very difficult for those with the syndrome to be in social situations, as they tend to misinterpret emotions and have difficulty with subleties in language, using literal expressions rather than conceptual. It might be helpful to research this condition, to see if there is a basis for compassion in considering this individual's communication style.
• United States
5 Jan 11
I think it is odd that she NEVER uses the childs name I do that with my kids on occassion but not all the time and not to everyone
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
27 Dec 10
Well, when Kathryn was a little bit younger and Paul and my niece Lilliana were less than two years old I referred to the kids as Kathryn and the babies. However, most of the people that I associated with also knew Paul and Lilliana's given names. In general I don't think that this is strange, impersonal or cold. However, if you don't know the child's given name then I do think that it is a little bit odd. I do have a friend that has a foster daughter and she isn't allowed to post her name or picture on facebook so she will refer to her as M.
@dibs2010 (132)
• India
24 Dec 10
Hat's off to you dude, what a nice thinking. very nice . very very nice thinking of yours..
@nestle11 (85)
• Philippines
24 Dec 10
Every person's name is the sweetest word for him/her. And having a child, for me, is one of the greatest blessings a person may have. That's why I find it odd for that woman to call him "The Boy" instead of calling him by his name or "Son." What is the name of "The Boy" by the way? Is it not related with "The Boy"?
• Philippines
24 Dec 10
I wouldn't call my child any of that but i think it's none of my business what others wanna call their child. I wouldn't mind being around someone calling his/her son "the boy". As long as he/she doesn't tell me what i should do with my life, i wouldn't tell him/her what to do with his/hers either.
• India
24 Dec 10
I will never do that then if you want to do that better not name them that would be very fine right.