Downloading from Pirate sites

@GreenMoo (11833)
January 28, 2011 2:02am CST
I've always known that there were pirate sites around where one could download pirated music and films. But until very recently I really didn't realise how extensive they were are and it's made me consider the ethics of the whole subject. The temptation to download is tremendous, but can it really be justified? On the one hand it could be considered simply sharing, as when friends lend a favourite book or CD. On the other, pirating deprives those involved in the production of these resources of their income and is effectively stealing. I suspect that many who download pirated materials never consider the ethics of the practice at all! So which side of the debate do you come down on? Is it something you've done, or do regularly, or something that you would never consider? Can it be justified in some circumstances and not others? Or are the ethics of the subject something that you've never really considered?
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
28 Jan 11
It's different from lending a friend a book or CD. Pirate sites are "lending" to thousands of people and thus stealing from the author of the works. It's no different than someone standing on a street corner and handing out free cds that they've burned from an album. They are robbing the artists of sales. Sure, it's tempting but you know it's wrong, it's theft pure and simple.
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@GreenMoo (11833)
28 Jan 11
It's certainly tempting, and I'm guessing that most people just go 'hey, free stuff!' and don't consider the implications. I haven't discussed the issue with enough people yet to discover, but I'm thinking that the majority of people probably know it's not right but class it along with things like speeding as wrong but not terribly so.
@petersum (4522)
• United States
28 Jan 11
I admit, I do download a few movies. The problem that I face quite often now is that many download sites and especially torrent sites are trying to charge you for the privilege of illegally obtaining copyrighted material. Since they openly accept credit cards, which must go into a legitimate bank account, how is this not noticed by their local law enforcers? I can only say that the predominantly U.S. based sites are being allowed to operate by a corrupt administration. The music and movie industries have the resources to stop this practice, but they too obviously don't want to do so for whatever reason.
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@GreenMoo (11833)
28 Jan 11
This is all quite new to me, protected as I am by limited net access. I imagine that torrent sites can get away by charging as they are just providing the software and it us up to the end user what they do with it. Of course, torrent sites could very easily discard illegal uploads but this is obviously not in their interests. Theoretically, I could upload a piece of material I had written myself or something for which I owned the copyright, and you could download that without breaking any copyright laws. And I guess that's how torrent sites justify being able to charge fees.
@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
29 Jan 11
I know someone who shares music. BUT... that person mostly shares music ripped from vinyl and isn't available on cd, and a LOT of it is older stuff either owned since childhood or bought at Goodwill
@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
29 Jan 11
Oh, I agree, and my friend sees it, but since its a waste of time to share new music and those are the ones being watched for, why bother?
@GreenMoo (11833)
29 Jan 11
There's some justification for sharing old and difficult to obtain material, but once the capability is there then the temptation is to broaden that scope of course.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
28 Jan 11
I tried to download a pirate but got a sea scout instead! No parrot, wooden leg or eye patch. Just a spotty youth in a neatly pressed uniform. I'd ask for my money back but it was an illegal download so I daren't reveal who I am. Really, you'd think that just because someone invests in developing themselves as a pedigree product they would have the decency to come to me even when I don't want to pay. I shan't do it again. Better to pay and get the real deal. It's probably unethical too.
@GreenMoo (11833)
28 Jan 11
Just think yourself lucky that you got a whole sea scout. I've heard of unlucky downloaders who have been stuck with just part of a pirate for weeks. Mind you, it depends on your point of view. The wooden leg would make excellent firewood and I wouldn't turn down the parrot either for a spot of Sunday lunch.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
28 Jan 11
I'm sure that there's a Monty Python sketch in all that!
• Philippines
28 Jan 11
I download music, movies, or TV series occasionally. I try to do my best in supporting original stuff because the people behind the production of the stuff we enjoy need to live and pay bills too. When I can't find the movies I like on DVD stores here, that's the time I download the movie. Other times, I'm undecided whether to buy a DVD or not so I download to get a preview by watching the first 15 minutes only then decide. As for music, I buy CDs especially when I like most of the tracks. If I only like a certain song, I would download it. My sentiment is that we don't have anything like an iTunes or Amazon online store to buy specific songs, movies, and TV shows available in our country. Either I cannot find them in our local stores or I just don't have the space to keep the discs/DVD boxes. Also, coming from a third world country, DVD/CD prices here can be expensive in comparison to the minimum wage. I don't know if downloading can really be justifiable. This is just my case though.
@GreenMoo (11833)
28 Jan 11
I'm not judging anyone! I've never really been exposed to piracy before and I was really just interested in what general feeling was on the issue.
• Philippines
29 Jan 11
Hahaha, don't worry, I did not take it that you're judging anyone. I was just stating my case. If I can, I would really buy everything. When I hear someone say that they'll just download because it's free and they have no other reason, I feel for the people behind the production. What's wrong is that sometimes, some of the people who download have the means to actually buy the original stuff.
• United States
29 Jan 11
pirating is illegal and therefore unethical. as much as i would lvoe to have music and movies for free, i don't do it, i've never done it and never will. you can be fined and go to jail for it and can't really be justified since it is illegal.
@GreenMoo (11833)
29 Jan 11
I can't agree that something is unethical or unjustified simply because it is illegal.
@RamRes (1723)
• Argentina
29 Jan 11
Fined and go to jail??????? This is INTERNET!!! There is no law here, you can download and upload whatever you want and no one will even care about it, not speaking about tracing and jailing you.
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
28 Jan 11
I download music regularly, and films rarely. When it comes to music, it's not a whole lot different than going to Youtube and playing one of the music videos over and over, or going to the library to borrow a CD, which I also do regularly. When I was a kid I used to make mixed tapes by recording radio programs and pausing the recording during commercial breaks. I don't think downloading is too much different than that. The thing is though, if there's an artist I truly enjoy, I will still buy the CD when I can afford to. I do like to try to support my favorite artists instead of constantly just downloading their music. Though I have to admit one year when we were broke I made my husband a CD from downloaded music of his favorite artist because I could not afford to buy the CD.
@GreenMoo (11833)
28 Jan 11
I used to do those tapes too, and I remember how frustrated I'd get when the DJ used to talk earlier than I expected!