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@SViswan (12051)
India
February 8, 2011 10:13pm CST
I just read about Hollywood star George Clooney banning his friend Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie's family from visiting him in the future. This happened after their kids wreaked havoc at Clooney's home. I know many people like this (who aren't famous). My kids are allowed to wreak havoc in our home (I'm totally against it but hubby lets them play outdoor games at home)....but that's where both of us draw the line. They know how to behave when we are visiting with friends and relatives. And the moment either one of us see that the kids are not behaving well, we make it a point to stop it right there. And if that doesn't work (happened just once or twice when they have been cranky toddlers), we have cut short the visit and return home. Are your kids allowed the 'freedom' to do as they please at people's homes? When we were growing up we would call such kids the 'whirlwind kids' (a joke in our family and we would pray they never visited us again). Do you correct the kids if this happened at your place and they parents didn't bother to correct them?
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@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
10 Feb 11
My husband and I haven't been blessed with children yet, but someday when we do have kids...let me just say that they will absolutely not embarrass us in front of company, whether the company comes to us or we go to them. We both agree to raise our kids to behave well whether they are at home or somewhere else because standards are standards; they don't go out the window just because the scenery changed. That makes me very upset when I see kids behaving badly when they're at someone else's house. I'm glad you and your husband correct the kids before things get out of control. That's the way misbehavior should be handled, in my opinion. Some of my family and friends who have kids let them do whatever they want or when they start to act out, they allow the kids to do so instead of correcting it right then and there. I don't think kids are a complete reflection of the parents, but the learning begins once the child is born, not once they reach their "terrible two's"! I can appreciate you and your husband's standards for how childish behavior should be handled. You provide a very good example!
@SViswan (12051)
• India
10 Feb 11
Well, handling the kids is a real challenge:) And all our plans before marriage goes out the window. Training the kids isn't easy and we need to keep working on it. What works on one child doesn't work for another. As they grow, we need to use different tactics too. And honestly, all that hard work is done solely (or mostly) by me. So, I know how tiring and draining it can be. Some days the kids are such angels and I can relax. But thankfully, they've never got up to the stage of destruction.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
13 Feb 11
First is the mindset. I wouldn't term raising kids as easy or difficult. It's just about having your eyes and ears open(eyes at the back of your head also help...lol) With some kids, it's so much easier than with other kids....a lot depends on the kids and the parents' handling skills :)
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@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
10 Feb 11
I'm sure I'll be asking your advice just as soon as the first child comes along in our lives! I've heard that before, where the best intentions don't always come to pass when you're in the moment. I'm sure raising good kids is much harder than parents make it look! Of course, I have so many good role models here, and my mom is right up there because of raising us six kids. I didn't realize how much she had to go through for us until I got older. It's like I can't thank her enough. Of course, when more grandchildren come along, I'm sure she'll be happy. Thanks for your comments!
@angelic123 (1108)
• United States
9 Feb 11
I don't have kids yet but I have plenty of niece and nephew. If they are not behaving in other people's home. I will make it a point to warn them or talk to them in private. I even give deadly stares to them. And they will stop doing nasty things. I think it is not acceptable to let your kids wreck someone's house. I will be angry too if my friends kids ruin my home. They can play but having a havoc is a big no no.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
9 Feb 11
I'm sure that's the stand taken by most parents. I wonder how Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie (any other parent for that matter) could be quiet and watch their kids doing that and not say anything or try to stop them! lol...I'm quite famous for the 'deadly stares' that I give my kids. They know what it means and stop whatever they are doing immediately even when they don't know WHY
@SViswan (12051)
• India
9 Feb 11
lol...weird lady I must say. Most parents have a handling their one or two kids at the grocery store and the kids annoy most of the other customers too. And here is someone telling you that you are being MEAN because the grandchildren are well behaved????? WOW! She would probably love to have Brangelina's six kids creating havoc at her place! Maybe they should be visiting her and not George Clooney
• United States
9 Feb 11
that is one odd lady. You are not harassing the kids. The have good manners.What is wrong with behaving? I get annoyed if kids are running around at grocery store. Especially if it is crowded. So I am proud of you Stowyk. The kids shows respect and good breeding.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
9 Feb 11
yes I would and I do. grand daughter has a little friend that comes over and they together looks like a tornado hit the bedroom. make them clean up the other day one of them spilt or spit chocolate in my bathroom sink I called them on it and made them clean it up. Not good for kids to get away with things like this. I dont blame Cloony for banning them wouldnt want any one to trashmy house!
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
10 Feb 11
We do have minor mishaps when the boys are together (at our home or anyone else's) but not to the extent that people do not want us visiting. I'm known for my glares when I see that there's going to be some sort of game playing that is unacceptable...lol....my boys now find it funny....but they also stop whatever it is that they were going to start. And the other boys who come over to play with my boys are pretty much well behaved (besides the usual noise that they make and little moving around)
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
10 Feb 11
I have always said and still do outside is a big place go out to play!
@drannhh (15219)
• United States
19 Feb 11
I do not allow anyone with kids into my home. Seriously, we meet somewhere else if they have kids. I am not interested in child-proofing my home. About 50 years ago people in the US corrected anybody else's children if they were misbehaving, but now that is not politically correct.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
19 Feb 11
Though I have kids of my own, my home is not child-proof. We preferred to guide them on what was allowed and what isn't. And I prefer them to stick to their rooms (both the boys have rooms of their own) when they decide to be play...and they need to clean up later. When they were much younger, we would help them clean up. Now the older brother helps the younger one with cleaning and showing him the ropes...so to speak. I know it's not politically correct anymore to 'talk' to kids who are misbehaving. It was just yesterday a friend and I were talking to a lady who moved into the apartment complex recently and we told her that she was free to correct our kids and to let us know of the same. We also warned her against doing that to some other kids in the complex because the parents would fuss.
@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
18 Feb 11
I can't stand Brad Pitt or Angelina Jolie because of Brad breaking up with Jennifer Aniston for another woman - Angelina Jolie. What a slap in the face that was for Jennifer Aniston! So what goes around, comes around! They got a slap in their face just as they deserved! Besides, being parents that they are, they need to ACT like parents and teach their kids right from wrong or they're going to continue thinking that it's ok to act like that. Shame on those two! Hooray for George Clooney!
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
19 Feb 11
I too didn't like the fact that he left Jennifer Aniston for Angelina. I agree that it's the parents' responsibility to teach the kids right from wrong. The least I would have expected is an apology and an attempt at stopping the kids from creating havoc at someone's home (as a parent I know that it's not always successful...but one should try)
@GreenMoo (11833)
9 Feb 11
I'd expect my kids to behave themselves at someone else's home, and if I wasn't there to keep an eye on them myself I would have no objection at all if the owner of the house asked them to behave. I'd expect other parents to have the same respect for my home. If they don't want to correct their kids and have a problem with my doing so then they can leave, along with their kids. Of course, different home owners have different standards of behaviour which are acceptable to them. But there is basic respect, which is what I'm talking about and I think we all deserve from visitors.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
10 Feb 11
I try not to send my kids if I am not around to supervise. My older one is responsible and if I do have to leave the kids without me being around, both of them will be given strict instructions before they leave. They are to remember my rules and be careful with things in another person's home....they are not to try anything funny even if the owner's child is doing so. So far, they've been good and the 4 year old is being responsible even when he doesn't have his big brother watching over him (lol...I find they are better and more responsible when they are alone.....big brother tends to do too much of watching and that's when we have tantrums from the little one)
@GreenMoo (11833)
10 Feb 11
I so recognise the 'overwatching' scenario, not allowing the little one to so much as breath without nagging
@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
9 Feb 11
From my point of view, it is not my job to discipline other people children. And it would actually be against the law for me to try to do so. When children mis-behave, the culprits are the parents. So I would tell the parents to fix it or get out. I recently acquired a 6 week old kitten with a peanut for a brain, and in the space of three weeks, I have already made a lot of progress by teaching him right from wrong by simply saying "NO" in a firm voice when he mis-behave. My fairy is, if you can train a kitten, you can train a child. But parents think it is cute to watch children being free of discovering the world. They are pure and innocent and mean no harm. But all the same, if you have no rules, you have anarchy. So they let their children run wild until the age of five, and suddenly when they start school, there are rules. And since every human live their life by what they have learned during those first 5 years, you end up with uncontrollable teenagers. If Brad Pit and Angelina Jolie did let their kids destroy George Clooney's house, it mean only one thing. They have no respect for George Clooney and their friendship was nothing more than a fake Hollywood friendship. Angelina enjoy collecting kids as a hobby. But she obviously delegate the responsability of bringing them up to nannies. It would be hard to visualise Angelina Jolie at home everyday, devoting her life to look after kids. Her idea of kids is to rescue them by adopting them, and throw her money around to get others to look after them. Angelina Jolie probably thought that she could pay George Clooney for the damages and forget about it. But it is not about money. It is about respect and it is about the hassle and the inconvenience to repair everything. Parents like Angelina are irresponsible and don't have a clue about what parenthood is all about.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
10 Feb 11
I agree it is all about respect. And you are also right about 'if you can train a kitten, you can train a child'. I agree it is the parents' responsibility to correct their child. But if it would happen at my home, I would probably start with hints to the child or maybe even get my son to tell his friends that it is unacceptable to us to have this kind of play. I might talk to the parents only if things go out of control.
@maximax8 (31042)
• United Kingdom
9 Feb 11
It amazed me to read that George Clooney won't permit Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie to visit his house again due to the mess their kids made. I have got a disabled three year old son and 20 month old daughter. When I take them to a friends house I try to make sure they don't brake anything. I watch them to make sure everything stays safe. My daughter kept picking up glass items so I put them up high where she wouldn't be able to reach them. She spent a little time playing with the toys inside the basket. If my kids got very difficult I would cut the visit short and go home early. Last summer we visited relatives in Canada and my daughter kept saying "non" all the time. I think they found it a bit irritating.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
10 Feb 11
That is how kids are taught to behave. Brangelina's kids must have created so much of havoc for Clooney to have banned them.
@nainesh1 (1656)
• India
9 Feb 11
I would be keeping an eye on my son's behavior at other places than home because as a parent it is my responsibility to correct my child if he is doing anything wrong. If the other kids do it I would point their parents attention on it to take a proper action against .
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
10 Feb 11
Yes, that is what normal parents do. Obviously Brangelina are not normal parents.
@bunnybon7 (50970)
• Holiday, Florida
9 Feb 11
i have always been the same with my kids. at home and at friends. these days, id think it would be even more important to teach them to take care of things when people can not just go out and buy a replacement to something that gets ruined(not that George couldnt, but it was probably the principle with him)yes, i tell them to. its probably why i didnt get on well with sons ex that had the little boy. she thought i should not say anything to him. and its my house to!
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
10 Feb 11
You are absolutely right. And if your son's ex thought the way she did...is it any wonder why she is the 'EX' now? :P
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
12 Feb 11
I used to allow my daughter and her little friends to trash my house until they got older enough to understand what picking up the toys meant. Now I give my daughter the freedom to play with whatever she likes as long as she tidies up when she’s finished. As far as visiting someone, I’d like to think that we have taught her to behave appropriately so she definitely is not allowed all the freedom she likes in other people’s homes...
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
19 Feb 11
Oh yes, it takes a while for the kids to understand what picking up toys meant. When my older one was younger, we moms would take turns supervising the play (this is younger than toddler stage) and helping with clearing the toys. But watching us and with our guidance, all the kids quickly picked up the concept of cleaning up. When I taught kindergarten, the children were encouraged to pick up their toys after play and we had a cleaning song.
@sender621 (14889)
• United States
9 Feb 11
George clooney has worked hard to achieve what he has. He takes pride in what belongs to him. His guests in his home should show courtesy and respect. that goes for children too. I don't know that I would go so far as to ban someone from my home, but respect and pride should go both ways.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
10 Feb 11
If Brangelina had any respect for George Clooney or their friendship, this wouldn't have happened, would it? It's not really about the money either. Why should a child be allowed to destroy anything even if you can afford to buy another set of it? It just teaches the kids wrong values.
• Philippines
9 Feb 11
This is what happens when children have excellent pride that they do not care who they were harming. It is like when it is dark they turn on the light by shouting and playing around without regard for their safety. One of my cousins had a head impact because when she was a child she ran around the house laughing and she was taken to the hospital with her head bleeding profusely. Until now she lacked control and have trouble following what her parents told her.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
10 Feb 11
Oh my! The parents have a hard time handling her? Are they trying to do something about it?
@pastigger (612)
• United States
9 Feb 11
My daughter knows that she is to behave at others houses. Even when we go to grandmas if she makes a mess in the playroom she knows to clean it. As a parent your are responsible for your children. My daughter cleans her room and any messes that she makes at home as well, she is three. Now I do have the problem with daddy teaching her some games that should not be played in side, but only at our house. She now tells me its ok daddy will fix it because that he what he has told her. So far they have not broken anything but I know it is coming. If a child was at my house and breaking my things or my daughter things and the parents did nothing I would step in. This is my house and my stuff and we take care of our things and we do not buy them for others to break. I knew some kids when I was younger and we would call them the toy breakers and after their first visit to our house I can remember telling my mom I did not want them back. I can still remember that they broke my doll stroller and didn't care at all. I was very uspset. These were kids that would break their own toys all the time. There was was not a very pleasant woman either. I have never had to leave anywhere yet because of my daughter it came close a few times. It is sad that parents let their children do what they want it is not doing any good for the children or anyone else.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
10 Feb 11
Same here. But a month ago, the kids AND daddy has broken the light in our home playing cricket(the boys know better than to try playing cricket in another person's home). Well, daddy hasn't fixed it yet (though he promised the boys he would) but he told them it's okay. They cleaned up the mess themselves. Besides the rowdy bit at home (thanks to husband's help), my boys are well behaved when we visit someone else. There was just one incident when my older son was around 3 and he threw such a big tantrum at someone's home that I carried him back home. But since then, he knows mommy means business and has never tried that again.
@GardenGerty (169406)
• United States
9 Feb 11
I probably would speak up if kids were not behaving in my home. My kids were not allowed to misbehave in homes or stores. When I did daycare, I had the same expectations of the children I cared for. I think it is quite appropriate that your children know that the rules are stricter for other homes than for yours.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
9 Feb 11
When I taught kindergarten, my students did have more freedom than children at other conventional schools. But they knew the rules....behaviour was important and they weren't allowed to destroy anything. My neighbours are strict about no outdoor games indoor and my kids follow it without cribbing. It just happens to be different at my home because hubby thinks it's okay. He's the one paying for broken stuff and now I've given up trying to enforce the rule which just leads to an argument. I'm glad though that my kids behave when they go to other homes....and if they didn't, I wouldn't allow them to have their play dates and visit their friends home. As I type this the younger one who was playing with a ball has hurt the older one's toe.....I will not interfere and let hubby handle the situation
• United States
9 Feb 11
I was way too shy to wreak havoc! I stayed right where my mom was at all times unless I was at my Uncle's house , then I followed my cousin around. I don't have kids and I don't have patience with them. So No kids come to my place. If there are kids around, I am the one to leave.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
10 Feb 11
Normal kids do play around and to some people whose tolerance level is quite low, it might be a pain. But they are mostly not allowed to be destructive. Dennis the menace is not a common sight:)
@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
9 Feb 11
now, I don't have kids, but if kids are visiting and the parents don't stop them from misbehaving, I will stop them... Mostly because my house is cat safe, but not kid safe and I don't want any body getting hurt because they aren't behaving safely at my place.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
9 Feb 11
Some homes are kid safe but the parents might like the way kids destroy the stuff at their home...unless their own kids do it. I'm not happy with my kids playing outdoor games inside the home (hubby is to be blamed here) but I do put a stop if other kids try to do it at my home. 2 kids are bad enough...imagine 4 of them trying to play cricket indoors!!
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
28 Feb 11
I don't like to let my children wreak havoc when they are at someone else's home. However, this does lead to a funny thing that happened recently. My children are not allowed to run in the house. We had gone down to visit a friend of mine and she had her children there at the time. They started running around a circle and I kept telling Paul to stop because it was something that he is not supposed to be doing. Well, my friend told me to just let him be as he would sleep well that night. I finally gave in to my friend.
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@EdnaReyes (2622)
• Philippines
9 Feb 11
Yes, it is the duty and responsibility of the parents to instill dicipline among their children. But I think banning children from someone's is too much and a somewhat irresponsible act. Children must be spare from any form of trauma. They should be protected from any form of discrimination and exploitation. Children are children, innocent, fragile and vulnerable. Just asking, if your children is subjected to this kind of humiliation, being banned from any house because they acted like children, how would you feel? I think Clooney's reaction is too much. He could have been better if he just play it cool and made a joke out of it rather than put his anger in these innocent children! It's the duty of the adults to talk it over, and spare the innocent kids!
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
9 Feb 11
Hmmmm...I don't think I would BAN someone from visiting again....but I would cringe the next time they wanted to visit. I'm not sure about the innocent, fragile and vulnerable part of children either. It must have been a considerable amount of havoc for Clooney to have been mad. I've known kids like that who are really destructive and the hardest part is when the parents don't intervene at all.