School system in USA - Are there failures in school

I am not sure what exactly you mean by 9th stage...I can attempt to explain the basics of the American educational system. Our youth are provided with the opportunity to attend a public school, tax dollars fund these schools, so there is 'no cost', although there are small costs for supplies, such as paper, pens, pencils etc. They are required to attend school until they reach the age of 16 in some states, 17 in others and 18 in still others. Some opt to leave school for a more vocational type schooling, such as Job Corps. In Job Corps the students attend part-time education and part-time vocational classes. They have further options of attending advanced studies in their choice of vocation or they can attend for other vocations at the same center or other centers. These young people if they wish graduate from a local high school, receive a diploma, attend graduation ceremonies or obtain a GED. For several years we had "No Child Left Behind", a program that was the brain child of former President Geo. W. Bush. This program was to encourage our youth to stay in school, it ended up pushing children into classes they were not ready for, and in the end resulted in fewer staying in school until graduating. Today with budgeting issues, it appears our youth will have fewer options for their education, it remains to be seen just how much damage will be done.

Well, everyone here is required to go to school through the 12th grade. However, many students drop out. I have 3 brothers and only 1 finished school, 1 stopped in the 10th grade, but received a GED and the other one is a stepbrother, he didn't even enter high school. It's terrible. They all are struggling to make ends meet for their families. This is just one example of what happens in the US school system. Many need additional attention to be successful in school and they don't receive it because people don't want to fork out the extra money it would cost for a tudor or after school educational programs. Best Wishes!

I could write a book on this. As far as our CBSE goes, I think the new moves made by Kapil Sibal are really good but sadly, most of the teachers are not aware of implementing it properly. This leads to a lot of confusion among teachers, parents and students. An observant system which is able to assess and judge the child at an early age will be able to guide the student to the right direction with/without a board exam. When I was in high school, we had to take all the subjects that the school offered despite the CBSE and ICSE board having around a hundred subjects as options and one could choose any 5 or 10 (depending on the board). Most of the +2 schools at the time offered only science subjects as options...now they offer Arts and Commerce. There's lots more I can talk about here. For almost 2 years now, we are homeschooling both our boys (aged 10 and 4)...the older one is into music and the younger one into sports. Academic subjects based on their interest (mostly for the older one) we handle at home. I've attended an ICSE school most of my life and CBSE for 2 years....in two different countries. My husband has done state board throughout his school years. Both my boys attended an ICSE school....the younger one was too young...but his older brother was doing quite well at school. As far as ICSE and CBSE goes, the number of subjects taken in 10th grade are different. ICSE has more subjects since it splits the Sciences and Social Studies.Though the general curriculum for both is same, ICSE goes into detail while CBSE gives a more general outlook on the subject. For those aspiring to go into professional courses and considering taking up competetive exams, CBSE is a better option. Besides the different curriculum in India, different schools follow a different system of education...starting from the conventional, traditional system....to Montessori....to Reggio Emilia...to Waldorf...etc.

Hi happy Here in the US they are required to complete up until the 12th grade. What happen in that situation is that the teen is past the age in which the School System can intervene. Therefore, instead of repeating it for a third time she was given an option to go to the Job Corp, where she will get her schooling certification and learn a trade skill simultaneously. It is definitely ideal to complete their 12th grade and certainly beneficial if they go on to college and further educate and prepare for a career.

Good discussion! My son was struggling because he had a reading disability. He was to finish 6th grade with his father then I was to finish his schooling. We had 3 years of court battles for me to regain full custody. Father and I had joint and HE decided he had more rights than me. When I got my son, bless his heart, he was entering the 10th grade, I had him assessed through the high school he was going to attend, Sylvan Learning center and a Baptist School for all grades. ALL of them told me he was only a 6th to 8th grade reader. if you can't read then your grades are not going to be good anyway. He begged me to homeschool me because he loved hands on learning and I knew how to make everything interesting. He went to a wonderful online Academy called Alpha Omega Academy. I had wonderful tools to work with through them to teach him, I also used college students at various colleges that would be online to help tutor others and they aided me in some of his math and Biology and Chemistry. I would never have dreamed I could have taught him the final 3 years of his high school. He excelled with me teaching him 6 subjects a day, lots of hands on, field trips, etc. He graduated with a 3.42 GPA and #157 out of 547 students graduating in 2010. On the other hand, My husband is going to go see a adopted son graduate next week. We were able to monitor his grades and see how he was doing in school. He was flunking several subjects EVERY YEAR. He missed anywhere from 30 to 45 days a school year, and they always adjusted his grades so he will pass. So I have no pride whatsoever to see him graduate knowing how poorly he did and that schools do not put emphasis on the traditional three R's as we called Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic. Today a kid cannot make change, they get to push a button and total etc pops up for you. They have calculators at their side, laptops, etc so basically a lot of kids would rather play a game on computer than do their homework. And the US is losing really bad with kids quiting school and parents not knowing what their kids are doing in school because they are to busy making a living. I stayed home with all 5 of my children. I was the room mother for 7 years (K-6) for all 5. I always had an interest in my children. This is the part that somehow our generation is failing that the family does not sit at the dinner table and help their children anymore. Seems everyone is to busy. I worked my own business at home while my children went to school. I was usually up 20 hours out of 24 every day to aid my children. maybe now my health is not so good but I know in my heart I did everything I could to make sure I put my children's basic education first and formost.

Raviji Since you are from india, you are aware of the education system here, some have given detailed information here, too I am happy to learn that, in USA they put the students in right track.. Thank you so much for sharing Namastey. ^Kalyani^

This is really bad, someone repeating 3 times the same stage should have severe problems. I don't know if it's based on an isolated case or a more serious system failure that don't give the proper education. But if he really is not ready for 10th stage, I find OK to make it repeat it over and over until he approves, even if it takes 1, 3 or 20 years to complete, and that because someone not properly ready for 10th stage may not understand all the contents, and ultimately will graduate without all the required knowledge. Don't know what you mean with "CBSE", but it's plain bad that all students are allowed to pass to 9th stage. Why do they pass if they have not approved the previous year? That doesn't give them a good base for the more difficult topics ahead. Here everyone must complete the 7th years of primary school, after that 5 or 6 more years (depends on specialty) of secondary school, all of them mandatory too. But they can be repeated, every one, as many times as needed, and while that may be embarrassing to the student, it's to build him a good base for the future, and not to bring unprepared people out too early. Many still desert early and find a job with their parents, but often life is not so easy for them thereafter. Currently the education system is BAD generally speaking, mainly at private schools, but some public universities have still good level to offer internationally skilled professionals.

Well, I know a few people who have stayed back in high school or in the lower grades. However, most people can very easily graduate through high school without too much trouble. There are better classes for more advanced students, but most of the regular classes are easy to pass. So I do not understand how someone could not pass. Some people do drop out, which is allowed after age 16, I believe. I have a friend who decided to be homeschooled this year, and he actually got his GED a whole year early. He did this because he wants to go to college in Paris for art. But so much of the information offered to us in school is useless, like the higher math subjects. I do not remember any of the complicated equations I learned last year, and I will never need them again in my life. I suppose they are good for people who have a lot of math to discover how much they enjoy it.