Ok, Conservatives, we're down to two real choices now.

@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
August 15, 2011 9:43am CST
As of now, we Conservatives have two real choices for the Republican nomination for POTUS. There's really no reason to consider any other Conservative that might claim to be running. Michelle Bachman and Rick Perry. Both are great choices, with plenty of pluses any Conservative can rally around. Of course, being human, both also have their drawbacks. I think we can easily support either of them though, so we'll see which one emerges over the next few weeks.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
15 Aug 11
Maybe for social conservatives those are the only options, but my vote is still with Ron Paul until I see a reason to vote otherwise. I won't argue for a second that either of those is better than Obama, but I'm not big on voting for the second worst candidate. I did that last election and it didn't make me feel any better.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
15 Aug 11
If Ron Paul is your choice, then by all means, vote your conscience! I could see myself voting for Ron Paul, but I still have reservations about his "Blame America First" crap.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
16 Aug 11
I have heard a bit of the blame America crap as you put it, but I agree with so much else that he stands for that I can't really let that make me choose another candidate. I'm willing to chalk it up to a poor choice of words used to make a more valid point. There are places we don't need to be and money we don't need to spend. At the very least I have faith that he would never go on an apology tour validating all the anti-American crap from Europe. Either way you and I will both vote for who we feel is the best candidate and I know we'll respect each other's choice. We agree on a lot of things, choice of candidates just isn't one of them.
@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
16 Aug 11
I know you and I agree on a good many things ted, but I think there are some areas where we do part ways (at least seemingly). To describe Ron Paul's foreign policy ideals as "blame America first" is not only over simplifying things, but not wholly accurate. It is not so much a "blame America first" thing as it is just a recognition that some things the U.S. has done has pyssed some people off. It is a recognition that some of these things have also been things we probably shouldn't have done and that we have in fact interfered in things we really shouldn't have. Yes, there are people out there who want to kill us and would still probably want to do so had we not done some of the things we have in the last 50 years. But, there are also a lot of beds we have made ourselves. It has taken me a long time to recognize that, a lot of soul searching and a lot of candid contemplation. I'm not saying Paul is 100% right on all his foreign policy, but he is probably more there than most (probably about 90-95%) and more importantly, is blatantly honest about it. Some of the things he says may not really be things we want to hear, but they are things we need to hear. Had we listened to these things a long time ago, we might well not have half the foreign policy problems we do today. Another point he makes repeatedly, though is lost in the sound bite media world, is that these foreign policy issues are very relevant and directly tied to many of our economic issues.
• United States
15 Aug 11
sorry...can't back either of them..if either of them get it..I am going third party.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
15 Aug 11
Fair enough.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
15 Aug 11
yes we will see
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@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
17 Aug 11
Lol you mean vote for two big state big federal government canidates oh and continued undeclared wars yeah they are about as conservative as a communist. There really is only one choice and that is Ron paul I mean he of by far the only candidate that supports a constitutional government that would live within it's means and wouldn't be getting itself into the problems that we find our selves in. The mainstream media doesn't like him even though he came in second only to bachman and by only 200 votesnthtabisna really close thing. Ron paul and Bachman are going to be going at it here soon for the spot because dispite what the lamestream media think Ron Paul is a serious player this round and is showing it. It helps though when you haven't flip flopped or been a mindless bat to party tankard talking point oh and well being the only none massive federal government guy out there besides Herman Cain might help too.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
17 Aug 11
There's a problem with me voting for Ron Paul... I don' support him. But I wholeheartedly support your decision to vote for him if you want... and even though I'm not Ron Paul supporter, that doesn't mean I won't vote for him if I decide he's the best for the job. But none of the other conservatives running are really even worth considering anymore.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
18 Aug 11
Oh, few things drive me crazier than the completely irrational and dishonest "you'll waste your vote" crap. The only wasted vote is the one never cast.
@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
18 Aug 11
Oh my god.... your one of them... You won't waste your vote. I mean cool. I am also one of those people if the GOP doesn't pick Ron Paul the person the party does pick will have to be near where Ron Paul stands on Foreign and Domestic Policy or at least close to it for me to vote for them or I might end up voting for either Ron Paul via write in or voting for a third party candidate why because I won't waste my vote. So I want to respect your choice in picking who you think is best for the job and not just going with who ever someone either the media or some other form of influence besides yourself wants you to vote for. Doesn't stop me from trying to get you through reason and logic to sway to Ron Paul's side. I just don't really see any other actual conservatives on the field all of them are for massive government invasion of personal space and are all for violating the Constitution with Wars that congress doesn't need to sign off on. Anyway thanks for respecting the way I am going to vote and I respect and thank you for voting for who you think is going to do the best job. i will leave you with this Quote "We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security." ~Dwight D. Eisenhower
@inertia4 (27978)
• United States
15 Aug 11
Wow, I can't believe that you call those people choices. This government has been a joke since Kennedy was president. It has gotten worse every years since. The government does not care about you or me, they only care for themselves. Anyone who is running does't matter. Whoever wins, it doesn't matter. We are doomed here in America. This should not be called the United States of America, it should be called The United Federation of Greed. We, the working class, mean nothing. Remember, when was the last time anyone of those rich boneheads helped you out. Never I bet. They keep taking about creating jobs, where? Here? no they create the jobs over seas. These big companies want profit and the way to get it is to out source those jobs so that they can get people to work for peanuts. We now have to be innovative. Also, we do not make anything here anymore. Everything is made in other countries. You cannot go blaming a democratic president or a republican president, because congress is where the problem lies. I could give a rats @ss about the parties, we do not need them. There is too much back and forth with bull. We could have a stuffed animal as president and it would be no different.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
15 Aug 11
So you're going with the CPUSA?
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
17 Aug 11
Thanks for clarifying!
@inertia4 (27978)
• United States
17 Aug 11
No dude, I am just saying, this country F@@@ed up and they need to fix it. I could care less for republicans or democrats. They are the problem as I see it. Instead of fighting like little kids in a school yard and calling names to one another, they should all get their heads out of their @ss and make america work again. I do not consider myself a republican or a democrat. I just think that the people want the country to be able to be great again. If we keep on going like this, we will be a third world country. I heard Donald Trump speak about some of the problems he sees and I agreed with the one that he said, we should stop spending all this money and stop giving away all this money to other countries. We also need to bring industry back home to america. Out sourcing jobs is not the answer. Look back and remember how this country let the japanese basically take over the auto industry here in america. Now if I were president at the time, I would have let GM and Chrysler fall. Ford was the only one that did not take a bail out. What the hell was this country thinking? I also would have let the banks fail. Why should the government bail them out? They screwed up. So, no I am not a communist and never will be. I also think that the people should be able to vote on issues that are happening in this country, like the debt ceiling issue. It seems to me that when any of these politicians become part of the upper crust, they forget all bout the people and it becomes all about what they can get out of it.
• United States
15 Aug 11
It would be nice to have the candidate decided early this time and get the party behind one person for a change. Right now neither one of these candidates can get the support needed to beat Obama next year. Without more unity in the party this will be a long and probably disappointing election.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
15 Aug 11
When will Americans realize that the entire purpose of Primary Elections precludes party unity. It is literally party members against each other. There is no reason for party unity during this time. It is also stupid to think that this, in any way, equates to problems in the general election. Of course no single Republican candidate has enough support to beat any Democrat candidate yet. The party members haven't chosen a nominee yet. Party unity can only happen AFTER the primaries, when there is a nominee to rally around.
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@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
15 Aug 11
Well....if it's true that Perry was invited to Bildeberg last year, I'm not sure he's going to be in the running. We have a Bildeberg president in the White House right now and that hasn't worked well.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
15 Aug 11
Well, whether or not YOU can support either is a different question. So who are you willing to support?
• United States
15 Aug 11
Have you seen what Politico says about Perry? That he's not a true conservative? While I would question any site that's not conservative itself trying to define a conservative, it does have some things to consider - like Perry's opinions on illegals and borders. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61076.html
• United States
15 Aug 11
I'm not thrilled with anyone yet, actually. I am like most others who say they'll vote for anyone who is running against Obama, but it would be great if it was someone who aligned with most conservatives on most things.