Killing people with kindness
By bounce58
@bounce58 (17380)
Canada
September 10, 2011 2:35pm CST
I was watching an episode of Intervention last night, and listened to the doctor speaking about how some people(parents) become such enablers that they actually cause more harm than good.
Back to the parenting topic:
This show resonated with me, because I see one kid that my son plays which I don't approve of the parenting. His mom has become such an enabler that he lets his son do whatever.
She picks up after her son, so the kid hasn't learned the discipline to be clean and tidy.
Aside from eating all the time, from all the meals his mom cooks (even late at night), he just sits around all day playing video games. Yes, my son plays video games with him too once in a while, but that's if he has no taekwondo or baseball. And worst of all, she treats her son like a baby.
Now, I don't want to judge parenting as I too am no expert, but....
I can't help think of that show Intervention a few years from now.
Have you ever found your kindness to be borderline harmful? For parents, how do you distinguish good parenting, from being an enabler?
Do you agree that my discussion title is not-too-much related to my topic?

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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
17 Sep 11
Some parents have a tough time distinguishing the two. I think that there are parents out there that are in for a very rude awakening later on. We all love our children and want to do everything for them but it really does hurt them in the long run to always powder and soothe. I sometimes ask myself if I am too tough or not enough. It's not like they come with a manual right?
I have tried to be more of a teacher than a friend but I have been a friend from time to time too though. I tell my girls that I am their friend but I am mom first.
I have tried to be more of a teacher than a friend but I have been a friend from time to time too though. I tell my girls that I am their friend but I am mom first. 1 person likes this
@bounce58 (17380)
• Canada
22 Sep 11
If only these kids came with a manual!
I think some parents really have trouble balancing this. Specially if they grew up being pampered and spoiled too. If parents themselves have not learned to be responsible enough, then it goes with their children too.
I am even guilty of it sometimes!
I think some parents really have trouble balancing this. Specially if they grew up being pampered and spoiled too. If parents themselves have not learned to be responsible enough, then it goes with their children too.
I am even guilty of it sometimes!
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
26 Feb 12
Thanks for the best response! I haven't had proper notifications in months!!! I am so sorry to be belated. I think a manual at the hospital would be a great idea for new parents..maybe I will write my daughter one now that she is going to be a mom too.

@Chevee (5905)
• United States
10 Sep 11
Hi bounce58, your title is just fine. I look at intervention too. I am no expert at parenting either. But there is such a thing as killing people with kindness. My thing is killing children with bad parenting. I am talking about something that is going on in my family right now. Disobedience, rebellion, laziness, the list goes on and own, the parent calls crying about certain things and the next day she is contributing to the situation. I just give up on it. I have even come to the conclusion that she is your problem not mine. If she was my child she would be a living testimony to some child. And I just put them all in the hands of the Lord.
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@stary1 (6611)
• United States
10 Sep 11
'And I just put them all in the hands of the Lord.'
Chevee...
Great point and I am afraid too many forget to call on God for help when parenting. Perhaps even churches need to teach loving and tough love to parents to help them. I do think it's becoming harder to raise kids..but them every generation has that same complaint.


@KrauseHome (36445)
• United States
28 Feb 12
Personally the problem may not always stem from now in his life, it will often be when they get older as how will they ever be able to fend for themselves, go off to College, get married, be productive? Will they become Big slobs and lazy, and be some of the ones that are often offensive looking, smelling, and acting. Will Mom still be there when they are grown doing the same things as well?
These type of people often really discust me, and I wish they could open their eyes, take a Step back and see how they are ruining their kids. Yes, kids need time to be kids, but they also need to learn about life, and how to do things to at some time be productive as well.
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@bounce58 (17380)
• Canada
12 Mar 12
That's what I'm afraid too! It may all be good now, but I could certainly see the future of this kid. Even now, 7 months after I posted this discussion, I don't see much change from the boy and his mom. I'm afraid that the kid would have difficulty in his future, specially if his mom would be out of the picture already.
Thanks!
@hardworkinggurl (37062)
• United States
10 Sep 11
Yes the title and discussion absolutely relate!
There is a difference with being kind to a child versus enabling lifetime patterns for their late years in life.
I would be kind and helpful when it was needed but children should be molded during their youth, to prepare them for their live later in their adult years. As a parent we are the ones that are molding them and sadly doing as you stated only enables the child to be helpless later in life.
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@bounce58 (17380)
• Canada
13 Sep 11
The sad thing is, some parents fail to recognize this. In their 'love and selflessness' to their children, they fail to see that it is actually not helpful for their children later on. Just like this mom.
I hope she realizes this. Or that the child grows up better than expected.
Thanks HWG!
@zionsphere (673)
• United States
10 Sep 11
I think it has a lot to do with your discussion. When a parents lets a child do whatever they want to do, it is really a selfish act on the parent's part. It is so the child will love them more.
However, when you raise a child with no restrictions, they are unable to handle it when they grow up, leave the house, and find that whatever they want is not available to them whenever they want it. The child will grow up not appreciating anything they have, and will be miserable even if the have everything they need.
So yes, it is possible to kill someone with kindness. Sometimes you just have to say no because you love them.
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@stary1 (6611)
• United States
10 Sep 11
Yours' was a slightly different interpretation of what I usually think of the meaning for Killing with Kindness..but it's a very effective twist
Parents who overindulge and/or spoil their kids do them no favors. Sooner or later that will face the real world and if sheltered too much will have a rude awakening.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
12 Sep 11
I think your title fits! I think this mother sees her child as a baby , not a little boy that soon will be a teen. And if she doesn't change her Baby will walk all over her when he is a teen.With that said I have no idea how parents discipline their kids these days. Back in my day , you got a spanking.

@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
15 Sep 11
Me too! I was spanked and when I was grown , I respected my mom.
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
15 Sep 11
I was not spanked (though I'm not against it), but I was threatened often. My mom used the "count to 3" method, and she never had to get to 3 with me. I was raised with respect towards authority, and a fear of getting in trouble. I wasn't afraid of my parents or authority figure, I just didn't ever want to get in trouble. I never spoke back to an adult or did anything out of line. I knew my boundaries and I stuck to them.
Kids these days do not have that kind of respect or fear. I don't know what changed.. but kids are not like they used to be.. and it scares me!
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
10 Sep 11
hi bounce your title drew me in and it fits really. I have seen children where the parents do everything but breathe for him and in some ways he is the most unhappy of kids as he gets no exercise, had no real friends except for those who love to use h is latest computer games for free.its called spoiling your child . I don't think I ever really spoiled our son as he was active and had lots of friends and he never had all he might have wanted.He is now grown up into a fine man.
@bounce58 (17380)
• Canada
14 Sep 11
Hi Hatley.
No disrespect to your age (sorry), but I think it must be frustrating for you to look at all the young parents out there. And all the mistakes they make with their children. I think there is nothing wrong with raising children with a little discipline. Sadly, some parents don't think so.
Thanks.
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 Oct 11
Yeah sometimes I avoid difficult topics, and the delay, meant to be kind, turns out not to be as kind as if I'd just said something straight out.
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
11 Sep 11
I've known quite a few parents like that, and they drive me crazy!
I am the total opposite of that. I'm strict and downright mean sometimes. My kids all have chores and get punished if their chores aren't done. They get very few snacks, they must eat all their dinner and rarely do they get a dessert. Having time to play video games or whatever is rare.. it usually happens when I'm not around because when I am around I'm constantly shouting "Get your chores done, put your laundry away, make sure you do it right or I'll make you do it again.. don't make me come in there!". I think the kids look forward to nights that I'm working, cuz their dad is pretty lazy, doesn't bother checking their chores so if they say their chores are done that's good enough for him, then he spends the rest of the night playing video games with them or letting them watch whatever he feels like watching on TV.. which sometimes isn't something I'd approve of.
But sometimes guys are just as bad as kids. I've talked to him till I'm blue in the face and it has made no difference!

@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
15 Sep 11
Ugh, must be a guy thing. Lucky for you you don't have 5 kids.. otherwise I think your wife (you do have one, right? You don't talk about her much) would be as bonkers as I am!
I think around here it gets worse when the kids are in school. I spend the day finding things that they should have done but didn't.. and of course they're in school so I can't yell at them until they're home, which means I stew on it all day long and am even angrier by the time they're home.
Today has thus far been a terrible day for that. I woke up this morning and immediately started a load of laundry. Well there was a basket full of clothes waiting for me to fold them.. this didn't surprise me. Usually by the end of the day I'm so worn out that the idea of folding one more load is just too much for me so it sits until the next day.. I just make sure there isn't a wet load in the washer sitting till the next day. Anyways, I begin folding these clothes and realize a few things.. 1. I had folded my last load yesterday before leaving for work, and 2. these clothes were soaking wet still!!
It seems that the oldest child decided he needed his uniform for soccer washed, so he did a load while I was at work. Well I had already had a load in the dryer, and it wasn't completely dry yet. This happens.. sometimes we need to run it twice to get the clothes completely dry, especially when it's a load of towels or jeans like this one was. But my son was in such a hurry he didn't bother running the dryer for another cycle.. he just took the wet clothes out and let them sit in the basket overnight!!
Now I have to rewash that entire load.. and I am angry! I called and yelled at hubby for not paying attention.. because I sure can't yell at my son while he's in school. Grrr!
@bounce58 (17380)
• Canada
15 Sep 11
Geez! Sorry.
I don't know what to say (write).
I hope you've already knocked some sense into your son and hubby. Maybe a good punishment for them would be for them to do the laundry and fold them for the next few loads!
I do most of the laundry at home, so leaving them wet is also not an uncommon thing. The good thing is, nobody seems to want to do a load by themselves. So, I need not worry about what you went through.
I don't know what to say (write).
I hope you've already knocked some sense into your son and hubby. Maybe a good punishment for them would be for them to do the laundry and fold them for the next few loads!
I do most of the laundry at home, so leaving them wet is also not an uncommon thing. The good thing is, nobody seems to want to do a load by themselves. So, I need not worry about what you went through.
@teamrose (1492)
• United States
10 Sep 11
Parents that enable their children don't see the problem. They think they are being loving. However, parents that in their mind don't enable their children may also be committing parental mistakes. It's hard for us to see our own flaws, but sooo easy to see them in others.
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