how much performance boost we get from dual/multiple core vs single core?
By surfer222
@surfer222 (1713)
Indonesia
October 24, 2011 8:19am CST
My old hardware is AMD athlon xp 1600+ with 512MB RAM, now i'm considering buying a new laptop or netbook (most likely i will buy netbook because the price is sooooo friendly
)... today computer shipped with at least dual core processor but the speed of each core is relatively the same with the old hardware, weather it's intel or AMD.... my question is how much improvement i can expect if i buy this new laptop? Or i can just upgrade my RAM to 2Gb (which is much cheaper than bought a new netbook)?
most of the time i only running browser and chat program, sometimes i do single image 3d rendering, but my scene isn't that complex so i'm still doing fine with my old computer. In the past some of my friend experienced a slower performance in netbook even if it was compared to old computer, did today netbook still have that problem?
)... today computer shipped with at least dual core processor but the speed of each core is relatively the same with the old hardware, weather it's intel or AMD.... my question is how much improvement i can expect if i buy this new laptop? Or i can just upgrade my RAM to 2Gb (which is much cheaper than bought a new netbook)?
most of the time i only running browser and chat program, sometimes i do single image 3d rendering, but my scene isn't that complex so i'm still doing fine with my old computer. In the past some of my friend experienced a slower performance in netbook even if it was compared to old computer, did today netbook still have that problem?2 responses
@owlwings (43897)
• Cambridge, England
24 Oct 11
Netbooks and tablets are designed mainly to do very simple things such as browsing, chat, simple word processing and spreadsheets and things of that nature. The CPU and other chips they use are designed to be low power (to improve battery life) and their graphics and sound capabilities are basic.
Dual core and 64-bit operating systems are only really of use to applications which are specifically built to use them and there is little or no benefit to most applications (indeed, the 64-bit version of Internet Explorer was markedly slower than the 32-bit version when run on the same machine and using 64-bit Windows).
You don't say what version of Windows you are using but with only 512Mb of RAM, it is likely to be XP at the highest. You would certainly see a great improvement in speed by simply adding the maximum RAM your PC can support (which is probably 2Gb).
3D Rendering is probably the only application that you use which would benefit from a higher clock speed and a dual core processor but you would have to make sure that the rendering engine was actually built to support dual-core technology or it would simply be using only one of the cores.
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@surfer222 (1713)
• Indonesia
24 Oct 11
i've read that latest netbook such as asus 1215N or 1215B have a good graphics, so i think netbook's capabilities is not so basic now. Asus 1215N use nvidia ion 2 and 1215B use Radeon (shared memory). Power consumption is also a plus in newer hardware. (My old hardware still need 450W power supply)
i think rendering engine in the future will using gpu power rather than cpu. what's your opinion about this?
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@umabharti (3972)
• India
25 Oct 11
hi,friends,
i would wish to know more about what ur discussing ,can anyone of u explain in a good way that i can understand to what ur actually discussing about.
Computers,Dual core,64 bit,32 bit,RAM ...the words are familiar ,however can u tell about them more brief so that i can understand each and everything of it.
Please.
Or if not suggest me a site where i can get knowledge regarding such things.
@surfer222 (1713)
• Indonesia
25 Oct 11
we're discussing about the performance of cpu with multiple core compared to older cpu with single core, because the clock speed of today's cpu on each core is not much improving compared to older cpu from several years ago. i just asking what would be the benefit if i use multiple core. It turns out that for my activity, older cpu can still do the work, i just have to upgrade my memory. However newer cpu consume less energy, that mean plus 1 for newer computer/laptop.
@smacksman (6053)
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25 Oct 11
You cannot compare netbooks and desktops - they are built for different jobs.
Unless you need to be mobile there is no netbook that will come close to a modest desktop.
My wife's PC has an old Athlon chip and runs XP. But it has 4GB of RAM (ok, not all used with 32bit) and XP flies! A 24" monitor is great with a 512MB graphics card (where a GPU does do some work unlike shared graphics) and big speakers and a good bass box gives quality sound. A Microsoft keyboard has a lovely touch and a laser mouse is streets ahead of a touchpad. It is connected to a laser printer and a colour multitask inkjet scanner/copier/fax which a netbook will still need.
The big bottom line is that the PC didn't start out like that - it has been upgraded. If I thought a faster CPU would make any real difference I could plug in a faster chip.
Try that on a netbook 18 months down the line!
Bottom line. A netbook is great for what it was designed for.

@smacksman (6053)
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26 Oct 11
Some time back I was reading an article saying that a big increase in CPU clock speed was getting really difficult but that the way forward was to increase the number of cores - 16; 32; 64 cores?
I could see no dramatic change in speed when I went from Pentium4 to Core2Duo using the same 32bit software and the same RAM. Increase the RAM from 1GB to 4GB and I did see an increase in performance.
When the clock speed increased you could see a marked increase in working speed. But now, when the cores increase, the working speed even decreases unless you use 64bit software written to use dual or quad cores.
So when 8 core CPU's are here will we have to buy 8coreOffice and dump our quad core software? The marketing people would love it!!
@surfer222 (1713)
• Indonesia
27 Oct 11
are you saying that those multiple cores CPU can used both as 32-bit and 64-bit environment? i didn't know that... thank's
Stuff i do with my computer is not too heavy, maybe the heaviest thing i do is sometimes render a 3d scene. because sometimes i do 3d rendering and i read from news about 3d that in the future 3d rendering will use gpu rather than cpu, i'm confuse weather i should invest on good cpu like i5 or should i invest more in a graphics like multiple cores gpu from nvidia?
as for software, as regular person with regular income, i'm happy with using only open source software for my activities.

@surfer222 (1713)
• Indonesia
26 Oct 11
i'm not comparing desktop with netbook, i'm just curious about the difference between today's cpu vs cpu i have from 10 years ago, how different are they. A more simpler version of my question is like this:
my AMD 1600+ cpu can solve 2 + 2 = 4 in let just say 5 nanosecond. because 2+2 is just one job, modern cpu will only use one of it's core to do this computation. How fast can the modern cpu solve this computation? because the speed of modern computer is relatively the same as from 10 years ago, will modern computer solve it significantly faster like 0.5 ns, or it's only improve a little bit like 3ns. (i know that this is not the actual time to compute the calculation, it's just a simpler example of what i'm asking about performance boost)



