After all, it's not a REAL relationship...

@dawnald (85137)
Shingle Springs, California
November 11, 2011 7:11pm CST
So you're online dating, and you meet somebody you really hit it off with. Seems to have everything you need and want. It's easy and comfortable and fun, and you are talking about meeting. If you see a fault in the guy so far, it's maybe that there's a bit of a perfectionist workaholic there, and when he's focused on a project, he's incommunicado for a while. So then the day before his big business trip he gets your number and says he's going to call. Not, "I'll call ya sometime", but "I'm calling you". So you wait, and stare at your phone. No call. No missing call. No voice mail. And you wonder. And then there's the big business trip, and you know he's going to be out of touch for a week, so no worries. And then the day he returns passes, and no communication. The next day passes, and still nothing. And you start wondering if this new, budding, prospective relationship that you felt so comfortable about has just poofed. Or maybe something happened to pull him away, and if you wait he'll show up again. Or maybe something bad happened. And you tell yourself, "look, it's not a real relationship, and he doesn't owe you anything". And you wait. But really, even if it's not a "real" relationship, you find yourself thinking that if he's really, truly serious, there's some minimum standard of courtesy here. And you just wonder, is it something bad and he can't communicate, or is it really that he poofed, or did he just get busy, and this is an example of the kind of treatment that you can expect in the future if you do end up in a relationship with him.
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27 responses
• United States
12 Nov 11
There are too many IF's here but because it is hard to determine if it is a real relationship yet you won't be able to know for sure until you meet. If he keeps putting off meeting, I would have to say, "married man trying to play hard to get." I don't know the full details yet but you say he's a workaholic. Sometimes that's a good thing because in a way it shows they are a responsible person. That's great and dandy but they fail to remember that we can't be a SUPERMAN or SUPERWOMAN, and do everything at once. It's not humanly possible. The man needs to be honest and come forward, and tell you what is going on. It is called the "common courtesy" thing. I would certainly expect it and no less. If that is how he is now, I would question if that is his regular behavior when he does get in a real relationship. How is going to make time for his lady love if he's always away? It almost sounds like a person who is better off being alone but who the hell wants to be that way?
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 Nov 11
Superman got sick...
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 Nov 11
I know, and believe me, we will have a talk about this...
• United States
12 Nov 11
Kryptonite is not so damaging that a phone call could have been avoided.
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@BarBaraPrz (51811)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
12 Nov 11
Probably.
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 Nov 11
he probably got sick and finally got around to telling me :D
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@BarBaraPrz (51811)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
12 Nov 11
Proves he's a man.
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 Nov 11
@GardenGerty (169406)
• United States
12 Nov 11
He got cold feet because he cannot handle a "real relationship", or he amuses himself by seeing how many people he can string along. Or he had a sudden electronic glitch that ate your number and all of your contact information. Yes, there is a level of courtesy here that seems to have not been met.
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 Nov 11
He and i are definitely going to have a conversation about courtesy. He got online tonight, sick, had a rough trip...
@SomeCowgirl (32189)
• United States
12 Nov 11
It seems like either way you won't know unless you try to call him. If he doesnt' seem interested then you know, if it gets all the way to getting serious, I guess it just depends. He might be unsure himself, maybe he's worried he won't have enough time for you, and so is backing away?
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 Nov 11
Crazy workaholic, got busy then got sick...
@jazzyrae (1745)
• United States
12 Nov 11
i did a study on love vs infatuation in hs for my senior reaserch paper 78% of men on dating sites are married fact also it is imposible to have a real relationship meeting online i could make a profile right now named princess say i am the queen of denmark and some dumb idiot out their will see it and belive it. it is foolish now for those of you myloters who will comment and say i meet my husband online well comment when you hit your 8 year mark. In some cases i could see a internet started romance working but the odds are slim to none. quit wasting your time focus on you and mr. right will waltz right into your life when you quit looking that is the problem with women today they are all hunting for mr right when it is you who are supposed to get the chance to play hard to get. I am not trying to insult you or anything i just think you and other women out their desrve better. I hope my advice helps you
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 Nov 11
I've talked to a fair number of men online, and I've always had a pretty good gut feeling when something was wrong (so far). Other than the workaholic thing, nothing feels wrong here so far. But we'll meet someplace public, and we'll see. He came back online today btw, was very sick...
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Nov 11
I'm not normal? :D What's the normal way?
@jazzyrae (1745)
• United States
13 Nov 11
i dont belive in online dating your relationship has an 15% chance to work why no tjust meet guys the normal way
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@curmont (343)
• United States
12 Nov 11
I love the internet and use it everyday for just about everything in my life except for dating. Online dating is filled with too many people living fake lives. I promise you that you have talked to and maybe even met several men who where not what they claimed to be. This can be a lie about their profession or about their relationship status but in my book those are serious infractions. I am sure there are men and women online who are legitimately single and honest and they just want to find love but the prospect pool is a little to tainted for me. In all fairness I have to be completely honest about my dislike for online dating and say that it is fueled by the fact that I have caught a few of my ex's using online dating sites and while reading their messages upon catching them found that everything they said to these women were complete lies it was like they were using it to live out their fantasy of who they wanted to grow up to be or something. So not to put more negative thoughts in your head but the excuses your friend uses for the lapses in your communication sound very similar to the excuses my ex would use for when he was unable to communicate because he was with me.
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 Nov 11
It is a possible serious problem, but we shall see. He came back online tonight, has the flu...
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
12 Nov 11
I have known people that met on the net and made it ok when they met. BUt I wouldnt do it as its to easy for anyone to lie on the net you can see them you cant see on their faces if they are being truthful or not and even if ya could there is some that just have honest faces. ANd I would just set and wait for a phone call. I have other things to do than just wait and yup if in big business might be a work aholic and just gets lost in the job. Butto there is a curticy to talk to you and tell you what has happened and that he thought better of it and wants to break it off not just let ya hanging there
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
13 Nov 11
yupp and run fastttttttttttttt
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Nov 11
Ah well, that's why you meet in person, somewhere public, and if your instincts are screaming "RUN", you run. lol
@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
12 Nov 11
I am not going to judge anyone who tries a relationship online, but in my experience, (with friends, not a man/woman relationship) even those can turn ugly when I thought all was well. Maybe I would "copy and paste" what he said and have him explain it in detail what he meant.
• United States
14 Nov 11
That's true, I recently lost a friend due to her posting things that she should have known I would question sooner or later. Like I said, I try to not judge anyone, but when one "claims" to follow G♥d, but doesn't live it, I just couldn't keep my mouth shut any longer, especially when she started preaching to me...
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Nov 11
With any relationship, really...
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@yoyo1198 (3641)
• United States
12 Nov 11
He bailed and you need to just fu-git about it. "This is the an example of the kind of treatment that you can expect in the future if you do end up in a relationship with him."
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 Nov 11
He got sick. Not time to give up yet, nope...
@yoyo1198 (3641)
• United States
12 Nov 11
Too sick to get on a computer and say that he's sick?
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Nov 11
IF this turns into a relationship, I intend to make it really clear that I expect better communication from him.
@bunnybon7 (50970)
• Holiday, Florida
12 Nov 11
my son is going through the online dating thing also and its so hard to figure. my daughter and i as women have been trying to help him judge such things also. i read some of the other responses so i see that he was just sick and forgot but, i do hope you explained you was concerned if he was ok. id call next time and just say that. im concerned but didnt want to bother you really.
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Nov 11
I'm kinda weirdly old fashioned that way, and if the guy hasn't called me first, I'm not comfortable calling.
@missybear (11391)
• United States
13 Nov 11
He could have at least call to tell you that he's pretty busy and don't have any time really to call back, did you try calling?
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Nov 11
naw I"m a chicken
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Nov 11
Naw, I likes him. Actually, he got online Friday, was really sick, and we talked on the phone yesterday.
@missybear (11391)
• United States
13 Nov 11
You should at least call him to tell him not to call you anymore
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@saphrina (31551)
• South Africa
12 Nov 11
Patience Dawny.
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 Nov 11
Patience, yes, and there he was with the flu...
@saphrina (31551)
• South Africa
12 Nov 11
mmmmmmmm
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@WakeUpKitty (8691)
• Netherlands
12 Nov 11
I think this is an example of the way it will be if you continue with him since you say he is a workaholic. I do honestly believe he meant it as he said: I am calling you but a workaholic is always working. Which doesn't mean he is not thinking of you at all. So the question is: are you willing to live with a person like that? Do you think that will change if he has something else in his life as just work? Why don't you call him? There is no need to sit there, give up on your life and wait for a call. There is one thing you should know about a workaholic, you have to go on with your life, meet your friends, do what you like and he has to be lucky if you have time for him!
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Nov 11
I'm strangely old fashioned, and if the guy hasn't called me first, or hasn't said it's OK to call, I"m just not gonna.
@bjc66bjc (6730)
• United States
12 Nov 11
Hi dawnald, I think you have asked the right question and I also think that you have answered the right question correctly...Why would you try to get yourself involved into someone that has already shown you what type of person he is and also what his characterics are as a human being. I mean if his person whom you spend so much time think about and wondering what the heck is going on and he is going on with his life not even giving you the courtesy of one phone call...you are right IT NOT A REAL RELATIONSHIP or friendship...suppose something reallyh wrong had happen to you during his disapperence ...a really friend would at least spend 2 minutes to check with you to make sure you werest least still alive.. Keep it moving...it seems as thou he sure has...
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Nov 11
He was sick, but he's back in touch, so we shall see...
@jillhill (37353)
• United States
12 Nov 11
To your heart it's real. Something to look forward to.....some kind of hope of finding the right person....but truly...red flags on this one!
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Nov 11
yeah but not nearly as many red flags as Mr. Pushy P*enis pic...
@mentalward (14690)
• United States
12 Nov 11
I'd be cautious but that is because of my own personal experiences. Look at my current hubby. We met through a dating site. He seemed to be everything I was looking for, too. As a matter of fact, when we first spoke on the phone, that call lasted eight hours! Then, the real person finally surfaced, unfortunately too late as that happened after we were married. And then there was that other person I met from online (over 11 years ago now). This was through chat. We met in person and everything went very well. Not long after, we were seeing each other about every other weekend. (We lived about 200 miles apart.) In a few months, he began doing very strange things or said things that just didn't make sense. Turned out that not only was he on parole for almost killing a guy from shooting him in the back with a shotgun after spending four out of 20 years in prison but he was also a cross-dresser (complete with wig, thong and painted toenails!) who liked men. He wanted me around so he'd look "normal" to his neighbors, relatives, etc. Naturally, once I found out about him, I never saw him again and was very fortunate to not have to worry about him like the guy in Hatley's comment but he was pretty angry when I left and refused to come back. The thing is, I'm sure there are many things about this fella of yours that you do not know about. He could be sitting at his computer completely naked while sucking on his toes (or something else guys tend to play with occasionally) or he could fart in public constantly. You really cannot know a person until you've been with them, physically, for awhile. I used to trust until given a reason not to but now I am extremely cautious until given a reason to trust. By the way, I used the "I got the flu" excuse to get out of talking to my current husband when he first wanted my phone number. I said I had laryngitis because I simply was not ready to get that personal at that point. However, I hope this turns out the way you are hoping and everything works out great, for both of you.
@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Nov 11
There's a honeymoon period with any relationship, and then the real person comes out. Look at me, 28 years married, and only the last 4 or 5 did things come out about his personality that I couldn't live with.
@sswallace21 (1824)
• United States
12 Nov 11
In my opinion, meeting people on line is not a good idea. There are so many things people lie about. Heck, for all we know they could be married, a murder or living in a loony bin. I agree, it's not a real relationship. I wouldn't waste my time waiting for the call. If the person truly cares, they would of found time to call. Best Wishes!
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Nov 11
He did, it just took a while...
12 Nov 11
hi:) wow that's kinda hard for you, I know because the hardest thing to do is to wait for something you don't know if it will come or not. well maybe it's better if you just don't expect, if he said he will be calling you, don't expect just wait for him to call, and if not then fine, at least you won't get hurt and get bored waiting for his call, anyway if he really likes you, whatever he is doing he will surely call, anyway there's so many way to call, and it don't need to be for hours, he just can even say Hi,he thinks of you then goodbye, instead of none at all.
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Nov 11
He was sick, got back in contact Friday, called me yesterday.
• India
12 Nov 11
Hi dawnald. I'm commenting as the 30 th person and after I read your resposne to the first few comments. So the suspense was already over & clear. You were told there were so many things that happened which made him do-do what-put off things, forget to call and on..? You have to judge and you will but bear in mind, you haven't spoken lots and haven't met him yet. Is he kind of trying to be evasive or possibly vacillating and just keeping you expecting? All this I'm saying could just go trash and will be well for you if things turn out happy for you. Just have to moderate your responses. I thought of saying, just. Good Luck, though.
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Nov 11
I think he's very dedicated to work and gets focused on something, and forgets everything else, and yeah, this could be a problem. We shall see.
@Mashnn (4501)
12 Nov 11
It is simply not a good sign. Lies do break most of the relationship. Luckily, it was online dating and there is nothing much to lose. If he get hold of your soon, it is high time you start watching his step carefully. He seems to be abit fishy.
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@dawnald (85137)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Nov 11
No lies so far, just inconsiderate behavior. But you can bet that if this turns into a relationship, I will have a serious talk with him about that.