This is scary!

Your discussion is very interesting, but I see it as pure propaganda, just someone trying to sell their white papers, which are not cheap. I'm tired of these doomsayer, worrywarts, academia nuts muddling up this country, and trashing our politics. The truth is this, we have a better experimental political system than the rest of the world. Name me one other country that's equal or better our political system? This website is poppycock, B.S. just to name a few.

This website is a pile of baloney, it's authors are trying to sucker you out of $20. They're trying to sell you on the idea that you are either a United States citizen or a citizen of a given state, and that simply is not so. The 14th Amendment states "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." (Emphasis added)

I do not claim to fully understand what they are saying at the site, but I do agree that many of the problems in our country now can be traced back to the New Deal. The New Deal and other programs like it are why the entitlement programs in our country have gone out of control. It is why most obama supporters are living off of the hard work of others, those who pay taxes. I had never thought too much about social security (the kind that is actually funded) until I read that there were plenty of Americans opposed to that program when it was started. They could only see people becoming dependent on the government, and they were right!

It seems to me that the whole site is flawed by the fact that, right on the front page at the top, they have quoted a critical part of Roosevelt's 1935 Annual Message to Congress in such a way as to take it entirely out of context and to actually REVERSE its meaning! The site claims that: Franklin Delano Roosevelt, in his 1935 State of the Union speech, described the "New Deal as "to substitute the appearance of reality for reality itself." In fact, what Roosevelt actually said was: "The attempt to make a distinction between recovery and reform is a narrowly conceived effort to substitute the appearance of reality for reality itself. When a man is convalescing from illness, wisdom dictates not only cure of the symptoms, but also removal of their cause." ( http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=14890#ixzz1dtNwn5jZ ) In other words, Roosevelt is saying that he opposes the 'substitution of reality for reality itself' on the grounds that it is merely 'curing the symptoms', not 'removing the cause'. The whole point of the New Deal, as Roosevelt saw it, was to remove the cause as well as to cure the symptoms ... in other words, to restore reality where there had been a semblance of reality. Please see the site for what it really is: a cleverly conceived LIE designed to frighten many people and turn them against their government. It is as much an act of terrorism - and more dangerous because it is insidious - as the 9/11 attacks.

In my case I am not a native but I am a resident so there is no problem.