diverticulitis? Nobody here understood that. Okay?

@Hatley (163772)
Garden Grove, California
July 27, 2012 7:42pm CST
greetings five day of worsening diarrhea and no one on the supposed medical did anything but give me one pill. each day it was worse and I was sicker. got scolded for messing of the carpet of sure. b ut finally Laura a smart care taker here called Quon a pretend med person and told him I need to get to the ER and be checked.we have no doctor here on the premises nor a graduate nurse.So got the er. and the doctor there a wonderful woman doctor listened to me then told me she wanted to hospitalize me for overnight after a cat scan. diverticulitis was the verdict. this caused my diarrhea. so WEd. afternoon admitted to Western Medical center and was given huge doses of antibiotic in Intravenous fluid. not better Thursday til evening then the runs stopped so the blessed doctor sent me home this Friday afternoon as she got the diarrhea stopped. so embarrassing and not to be too funny it took a lot out of me. a blessed worker at Western Medical center brought me home so was spared half the copay of the Ambulance expense. Your take, mylotters. Is the false medical staff here inadequate.Should one be proactive and insist on going to the ER when really ill
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• United States
28 Jul 12
What sort of place is that? They should have been concerned as soon as they saw that it had been a few days and was worsening. By the third day, it should have been clear to them that you needed to be seen by a doctor.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Jul 12
hi wilson That was my sentiment too,its called a retirement center with assissted living but there is no real qualified RN here or doctor so I have now to learn always be proactive. we did have a sensible woman here who was called a health ]care coordinator and she was caring but somehow for some reason after two years here she quit. now they need a new]person who also cares.
@ravisivan (14082)
• India
28 Jul 12
Hatley aunty, I hope you will be having a reserve medicines for diarrohea, cough, cold, stomach ache, body pain etc,. We bring a list of medicines from India and keep in store for use in USA during our stay. Still sometimes when it gets worsened we have to consult emergency care.
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
29 Jul 12
I think one doesn't need a medical degree to realize that if someone is that sick for that amount of time, he or she needs to see a doctor..What is wrong with those people? I think YES you should be proactive, especially where your health is concerned..
• United States
31 Jul 12
Good, because if your son didn't scold you, I would...lovingly of course.. Yes, anyone, regardless of age, has that problem for more than 3 days should get medical help and I am happy you got it before it got any worse.. Now as for this nurse, as she asks you each question, answer her and then ask her the same..lol No, better not, might cause trouble,...
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Aug 12
he he oh yes my son suggested I give some outlandish answers then say only fooling but he also said no probably wou ld back fire and send you to the mental ward. lol lol.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
31 Jul 12
my son scolded me for waiting and I agree it w as too long. n ow I am still not one hundred percent but think its only because I had such a long siege before getting medical care. I was amused at this one nurse.each time she came on shift she would ask me do you know where you are? what month and year is it? my gosh she must have though that I was senile which I am not. .lol
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@GardenGerty (169406)
• United States
28 Jul 12
No matter where you are, you have to speak up for yourself or have a care taker, family member who does. I have seen places like Gold Crest before, they are not overly suited for people with serious medical problems. A word of being the "devil's advocate" though. I have some of the same training that your staff does, and I have read a lot and helped people study for nursing degrees. I have gotten in trouble at jobs for "knowing too much", they do not want you to go beyond your scope. They have probably been told not to think for themselves. In your case, I would have been writing down your symptoms and episodes, and I would have taken your vitals frequently. Have you ever had trouble with diverticula in the past? If so that should have been a clue to the people around you. It is not like you just suddenly decided you WANTED to do this.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Jul 12
Hi garden gerty oh yes six years ago i woke up having bleeding diverticulitis and was hospitalized for five days while they did numerous tests and found I had diverticulitis. the barium enema in that case stopped the bleeding, blackberry seeds were the culprit.they had stopped in a diverticula and nicked a major artery. i then had a colostopy to be sure I had no cancer or other troubles. just some benign polyps. so this time I had assumed, wrongly JI could get trail mix with chocolates and cashews. nope this time something caused infection so now again I have to not eat any of the good fiber snacks at all like berries and nuts and seeds. I had sworn off all those things but the nuts but evidently the latest news is not true, we cannot eat nuts. whatever it takes I will nix anything that could cause this again. I am on long term antibiotics.Yes I have to be my own best adovcate as it is my body. the doctor in the ER told me that in my case Imodium does no good at all.
@jerzgirl (9384)
• United States
29 Jul 12
If you have diarrhea for that long and they're still treating you like a bratty child who won't use the potty, then YOU call the ambulance yourself, if you can. Report their lousy care to the state, again if you can. That's abuse of the elderly, as far as I can see. Ignoring an obvious medical condition and then chastising the person because of it? Absolutely, it's abuse and mistreatment!!! Write a letter to the editor (you can do that online) and make it public!! They embarrassed you, so it's your turn to embarrass them.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Aug 12
hi jerzgirl well my caregiv er fri end Laura wou ld not let Quan off the hook so he sent for an ambulance at once. I hate to make waves as I have t o live here. but will be more proactive.
@blue65packer (11826)
• United States
28 Jul 12
I never have had to go to the ER. I have had diarrhea but it clears up after I take some Imodium D and drink lots of water. I don't understand why you were not sent to the ER right away! At least you were able to go to the ER and they found out what was wrong! Maybe the inadequate medical care has to with the system trying to get more money out of us. I would not be surprised!
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Jul 12
hi blue65packer yes indeed the three owners dress like they are multimillionaires and truly there are over 100 people here and those of us with roommates pay out of social security and ssi 1100 a month those with private rooms pay 1200 to 1400 a month,they cannot tell me they are not making money here also they send anyone who is telling them they need medical help by ambulance to the ER . I believe they do get a kick back from care ambulance co on each trip we get sent on. the kind of diarrhea caused by infection and diverticulitis does not yield to Imodium like other plain diarrhea do. this is unfortunate as it takes a lot of antibiotics to stop diarrhea caused by diverticulitis.
@RitterSport (2451)
• Lippstadt, Germany
29 Jul 12
hi dear Hatley I am shocked about your post. Of course you should insist on getting to the ER, I would have done so after one day of the runs and not five dayw like you did. Please remember that you are much more in danger of dehydrating than younger folks plus getting weaker sooner than younger folks. I wonder why no one of the staff in your senior citizens house suggested the ER after one day. Cant they think?
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
21 Aug 12
hi Rittersport well most of them thought oh diarrhea thats just treated with Imodium so why bother bu t the one caregiver is different and realized I was really ill. I had nonstop IVs all the time i was in the hospital with pain reliever and antibiotics as it was an infection in the diverticula not touched by Immou ndian bu t had to be treated with antibiotics instead.
• Lippstadt, Germany
21 Aug 12
good that accurate person came to your rescue...... hugs to you
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
28 Jul 12
Well I think it is disgusting that they did not take action to medical help and it could have gone wrong bad they need to look at that as next time it could be a lot worse I hope that you are feeling much better now Sweetie
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
28 Jul 12
I really hope that her Sister will get the Medical care for her as it does not sound good at all I am so glad that you are better Your little Man in the Doggie suit has been so much better since his Operation and it is so good to see him like this big always
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
31 Jul 12
hi gabs I am worried as I never got an email back and hope she did not think I was butting in but again they might have been on vacation too I am so glad Gissi is doing better, thats great'news,. hugs from hatley.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Jul 12
hi gabs they are w thout the one sensible health care person as she quit. they have no doctor on the premises or even one registered nurse. just lay people trained to give out pills and make medical appts with our doctors. my little man in the doggie suit looks pretty chipper there bless his little heart. am feeling much better .now my roomie is ill with diarrhea and its black.I just emailed her sister and told her kathy needs medical attention for it and I bet shes been bleeding internally. feel so much better am happy again. hugs from hatley
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• United States
28 Jul 12
Oh Hatley, what an ordeal you went through! Glad you're back though. About 14 or 15 years ago, I was in my late 20s with a young kid. I was in a car accident the year before my daughter was born and I still have some residual back problems, 20 years later! One day, I noticed that my shoulder was hurting me, so I went to the doctor. Sent me for x-rays, which found nothing. Next the MRI-discovered I had severe tendonitis. I was given 800 mg ibuprofen tablets (Advil is 200 mg) and sent to physical therapy. After a few months, I was deemed to be healed. But lo and behold, I managed to hurt the other shoulder! The x-ray was a technicality, so I had the MRI script in hand and got it scheduled. This time, I was diagnosed with tendonitis but turned out I had a bone spur that needed surgery and rehab. What a mess-I had the surgery but was back at work 2 days later (because I was afraid they'd find a reason to fire me). The entire ordeal must have taken 4 years, but my GP doctor had been dealing with me for nearly 6 years at that point and took my complaints seriously. Because of that relationship, I was able to get a second ER visit and an MRI approved after the first ER sent me home with "stress"-turned out, I was diagnosed with MS a week later. So I'm all for being proactive about my health care-everyone should be!
• United States
28 Jul 12
Thanks Hatley. Actually, having MS has really been the least of my problems (healthwise that is); I was diagnosed in 1998, but in 1999 or 2000, I was re-diagnosed as having benign relapsing-remitting. I've only had 4 scares (and one, I hadn't been diagnosed yet), the last being in 2008. It is such a difficult disease to diagnose and treat because it's constantly changing. I'm getting more hopeful that they're getting closer to a cure-some of the new research is amazing! I just don't know that I'll live to see them successfully regenerate nerves. Are you a Type 1 diabetic or Type 2? My mom, great-grandfather, sister all had Type 2, where my uncle (mom's brother) has Type 1. My mother successfully treated hers with diet and didn't need insulin until she was sedated and was being fed by an feeding tube, while my sister required insulin during her pregnancy. I was found to be pre-diabetic in 2010 but my doctor never mentioned it to me directly-I had my blood tested and the results were mailed to me. I don't have a doctor currently, or else I'd have it checked again.
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• United States
28 Jul 12
Hope the Januvia works for you. Rest now and we'll chat later!
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Jul 12
hi scorpiobabes yes It was not a bit of fun.God bless Laura for insisting quon call an ambulance and get me to the Er. But really what I have gone through is not as bad as MS. Yes we have to be proactive in our health care. We have one young man here with Ms but he is really in bad shape. I do hope yours is not that bad. He is in a wheel chair but he has the most lovely personality.I do remember you had told me you had MS. I have known people with it in various stages. I do wish some for these things could finally find a cure for.For me being a diabetic always seems to make otherthings worse. lol
@AmbiePam (120547)
• United States
28 Jul 12
Are they even trained? I mean are they trained in anything other than like CPR? I haven't ever been really impressed with the staff at homes like that. When my grandfather was in one there was a guy who handled physical therapy, and I think one nurse on the floor, but it didn't seem like a lot of people were really attentive.
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@AmbiePam (120547)
• United States
28 Jul 12
That is worrisome.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
31 Jul 12
hi yes it really is as like my son said they should be required to at least have registered nurses on the premises. they have a doctor on call but hes not the greatest. lol
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Jul 12
hi ambiepam they are lay people not mds or licensed RNs just care people and I doubt they have any training. they get by as theyh call it a retirement center but still take in people who really should be in a different kind of facility. these care people just look at diarrhea as the same old thing which needs just some Imodium but mine was caused be an infection in my diverticula and it had to be treated with antibiotics.Imodium never touched it at all.
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@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
28 Jul 12
I would - I am, do it! And I tell you, when I had extreme reaction to a food allergy, and I was just shaking from diarrhea, I was SO glad they had just released Imodium for sale!
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Jul 12
hi ElixBxn what was so irritating is that Imodium did not stop it at all. the doctor said its an infection in the diverticli so they call it diverticulitis. Last night in the hospital I could not sleep, this felt so silly, my nose was stuffed and ]I was sneezing from allergy to dust and dust mites in a hospital yer, and longed for my Benadryl which I take faithfully every night here in my room.So now I have to take antibiotics for 24 days. b ut at least I feel good again.
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• United States
19 Aug 12
my mom had that-they had to remove some of her intestine because the diarrhea wouldn't stop in her case.. before she had the surgery,i had to bring her in the ER,and the nurses there were worthless.the one wouldn't get off her a*s to bring her a bedpan(she was hooked up and couldn't go herself).i told her "fine,i'm gonna tell her to crap the bed then.your choice." and the nurse pretty much snorted at me. some just don't understand how bad diverticulitis can be..
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• United States
9 Sep 12
yup.they tried imodium with her at first too,then she started bleeding. oh she was so disappointed when she had to give up corn and seedy things like pickles..
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Sep 12
hi s carletwoman the first time I was bleeding so bad and had to have 4 transfusions all be cause I ate a lot of black berries and the seeds caught in a sac and nicked a blood vessel, the barium enema they gave me washed the seeds out. Wgat I miss are nuts as they are so good for you too,.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
21 Aug 12
hi scarlet I know here the care givers just thou ght diarrhea give her Imodium, big deal. but the doctor told me that an infection in your colon will need antibiotics and Imodium was useless. my best friend had to have that surgery too as hers did not stop either so they took out a section with the little sacs and she has never had any more trouble either.The nurses at Western Med were just so great, and I loved them for how kind they were as that was a totally messy thing for them to work with and i felt so bad having to have all that horrid diarrhea.
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@savak03 (6684)
• United States
13 Aug 12
Unfortunately we cannot rely on others to do their job properly. With companies trying to save money on staff and anything else they can it is no wonder that you don't have a real medical staff on duty there. That being said I think you have to speak up when you feel like you have a health problem and insist that they send you to a doctor or the hospital. You know what they say, "The squeaky wheel gets the grease."
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Aug 12
hi savak I could just hug you for your great advice. darnedrioght thje squeaking wheel does get the grease. love your little busy mouse too. hugs from hatley
• China
28 Jul 12
Sorry to learn that you fell ill .Happily you were admitted to hospital in time and the runs stopped.I reckon it is not long before you are back to your old self.It is a big problem where the "Gold Crest" is located in is short of doctor and medicine,even you have to travel ten miles to see a doctor.Hope the medical situation there will soon take a favourable turn.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Jul 12
hi chang yes I am so glad that the caretaker Laura insisted the care person Quon to call an ambulance. the ER doctor was just great and admitted me. then told me it was caused from an infection in my diverticula and only antibotics would stop the runs. I chose when I came here to keep my doctor so thats why I had to got to Western Medical center as thats where he is affiliated.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
31 Jul 12
hi chang yes it wo uld be good but my primary care doctor is going to be upset with me as I did eat some nuts f or snacks and that could have triggered the infection.
• China
29 Jul 12
The diverticula made trouble once again this time.If only doctor there had a better way to cure it radically.
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@bjc66bjc (6730)
• United States
28 Jul 12
oh Hatley, I feel so bad for you to have gone through such a terrible ordeal...Besides being in so much exhausting feeling, the embarrassemnt was even worst... I am however happy its practically done and you are feeling a bit better...I did PM you the next day but we weren't on each others friend list so it did not go trough so i went back to a post that you had responded and sent you a message I am not sure if you even read it or not... But I am glad you are home and doing better..
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Jul 12
would you not know it I could not sleep that last night in the hospital as they kept waking me up so though ob boy tonight I will sleep but no for some reason i only sleep maybe an hour. but am going back to bed now. my poor roommate was up all night with diarrhea but hers is different then mine. I will check later today bjc and find it . hugs.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
31 Jul 12
hi bjc I do hope your prayers move me t o sleep tonight. I do know why I am having such a hard time sleeping.Kathy seems better now sol am glad of that too.
@bjc66bjc (6730)
• United States
28 Jul 12
wow thats terrible, try to get some rest and let your roommate know about that Immodium..and I hope she can get some rest so you can get some.. I am saying prayers for you and your roommate...May both of you get better real soon.. right back to ya.. Blessing!!!!!
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@KrauseHome (36445)
• United States
6 Aug 12
Personally Medical care is often getting unreal, and they are not wanting or able or willing to do anything when you really have something wrong. Look at the example I explain here from time to time with the situation happening with my leg, and the chronic wound. Even the wound clinic does not know what to do, and can offer no help and suggestions and it frustrates me for sure. If I had the money to go to the ER since I am still having issues with leg skin draining I would, but I can understand your frustration and wonder what it will ever take for a simple doctor to know what to do when someone has an issue at hand?
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Aug 12
the ER doctor was really good and when she read the c at scan she told me its an infection causing diverticulitis and she w anted me hospitalized for several days to pump me full of antibiotics and to rehydrate me too. they were all so good to me there.I do wish you can get the right help for your wound, i still thing oxygen therapy in a hyperbaric tank would cure you. hope you do get the right help to cure your wound.
@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
4 Aug 12
Hi Hatley.... I'm sorry for being a wee bit late in responding but I do want you to know that I'm so sorry you've been so sick! I do think one has to be proactive and insist on going to the ER when they're really sick because the others don't know how YOU are feeling and to take a chance like that is, well, chancy. Once our house goes down, it's so hard to get it back up especially with diarreah because you lose a lot of your nutrients that your body needs to live especially fluids. Bless your heart sweetie! Please don't take no for an answer if it happens again! I'd hate to know something happened to you especially over something that can be taken care of so easily!
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Aug 12
hi catsand dogs it was good that I went to the Er and they did a cat scan showing I had diverticulitis. so the ER doctor hospitalized me until she could rehydrate me and stop the infection with IV drip with antibiotics. I was in for two nights went home on that friday afternoon.The IVs really did cure the diahrrea and I was sent home on antibiotics for two weeks. am fine now thank God.
@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
28 Jul 12
A retirement/assisted living center has no doctor or nurse on the premises?! Do they at least have one on call that they can contact when they think someone might need attention outside of office hours?! You definitely have to take care of yourself and insist on medical attention when your body says you need it. Those people aren't medically trained and probably have no interest in it. Thank God for Laura and Quon--now, what is a pretend medical person? He or she has some knowledge but no degree? You should write letters of recommendation for them and send a copy to your state's retirement home regulatory board. You'll definitely have to be proactive and if you have to, call the paramedics if you or a friend gets too bad. These people are apparently not too concerned with the health of the residents!
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Jul 12
dragon54u yes no M.d. or r n. they have a doctor they can all but after one time w ith him I insisted on going to m y primary care doctor I have had for years. I definitely must learn to speak up as they were going to just put it off as ordinary diarrhea but when Imodium just made it worse I knew something else was causing it. Yes they did not seem a bit worried until Laura a caregiver c alled Quon and insisted on sending me to the ER.the doctor there had them give me a Cat scan and then hospitalized me. she t ole me it was an infection in my diverticuli and had to have antibiotics to stop the diarrhea. thank goodness for her help.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
29 Jul 12
Wow...yes..it sounds like one should be proactive in demanding proper medical care there. I so hate that you had to wait as long as you did for treatment. I looked that up and if it's not treated, it can cause some pretty nasty complications. I am glad that they helped when they did. You take care and if you start to get ill again, you tell them you want proper medical treatment. I know they don't want a crazy southern lady showing there with a chip on her shoulder.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
31 Jul 12
hi JenInTn he he my second laugh of the day lol. Yes it can go in to bleeding diverticulitis as I had four y ears ago from eating blackberries fresh ones so delicious and they gathered in a sac and ruptured a blood vessel. took four blood transfusions to stop the bleeding. but this time I am not completely sure what caused it.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
30 Jul 12
I honestly believe that even if there is not medical staff on the premises, I do think that there should at last be a doctor that is on call for the facility in case there is anything that would go wrong with any of the residents. With that said, I do think that it is important for all of us to be proactive when it comes to our own care. If you know that something is wrong with you, then you need to insist to either see your doctor or to be taken to the emergency room so that you can be taken care of properly.
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Aug 12
hoi dorannmwin I have my own doc tor as I did not trust the one Gold crest uses and they finally did call him but only for one pill which did zilch. so going to the er had to be do ne.
• Valdosta, Georgia
28 Jul 12
I have always had the issue of not speaking up for myself hatley and I am finally starting to learn now. Im sorry you were so sick, I am sure that was awful. They should have better ways of handling things there thats for sure! Im glad your feeling better now though! :)
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@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Jul 12
hi LovingMyBabies I have such a hard time of speaking up for myself too and Laura was the one who said thats too long she needs to see a doctor. the ER doctor hospitalized me for diverticulitis and told me that the only thing that would stop the diarrhea was antibiotics, that Imodium would not touch it. Glad I went and am feeling better now.