The Ron Paulists
By clrumfelt
@clrumfelt (5597)
Tennessee Ridge, Tennessee
August 30, 2012 12:49pm CST
I don't know how everyone else feels about Ron Paul, but his whole campaign just bugs me. First, he runs for the Republican nomination, loses and keeps his electoral college votes. Why couldn't he endorse Mitt Romney and release his electoral votes just for the sake of helping defeat Obama? His supporters at the convention behaved more like OWS members than convention participants with all their disruptions. Did they just want to chew their sour grapes in public or what?
Okay, I've had my political rant for the day. Thanks for listening.
4 responses
@crossbones27 (52907)
• Mojave, California
30 Aug 12
It's probably because Romney and the GOP screwed him over. As many people have been saying, if you do not fall in line with this new Republican party you get shoved out of the way. Just ask Buddy Roemer and Gary Johnson.
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@clrumfelt (5597)
• Tennessee Ridge, Tennessee
31 Aug 12
I think the GOP always picks the candidate it wants to run and sort of marginalizes the others. Ron Paul may have done better to run a third party campaign, but that would be almost impossible to win also because of the way presidential elections are set up. It would be extremely hard to get enough electoral votes outside one of the major parties in order to get elected as a third party candidate.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
1 Sep 12
He lost and he is having a childish hissy fit. And I LEAN towards libertarian views more than Republican. So its not because I support only them.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
1 Sep 12
I posted the above before I read lilwonder's post on what is supposed to have went down at the RNC.
I've since read more on it and I found that the rule changes have been made. I'd like to think that it was a move to keep Ron Paul from spoiling the chances of defeating Obama. Not good to have gone down that way, but I can understand the need to defeat him is overwhelming. This is not a normal election by any means. I am 55 and have lived through many elections and many presidencies. As I'm sure most of you have. But let me express my observations. My dislike of Obama has less to do with the economy and more to do with the survival of the Republic we have so dearly been given. I've ammassed massive amounts of info on his ties to communism, jihadists, and the socialists who want massive government control of our lives. I could post it all here, but most of you can find it if you care to. I just caution everyone, including those Ron Paul supporters to think carefully before you give a vote to Gary Johnson and thereby (by default) elect Obama for a second term. Ron Paul is a very smart man. I like his ideas on limited government very much. I did not support him because he underestimates the danger of Islamists to our security as a people and a nation. Obama has allowed and encouraged the Muslim Brotherhood to infiltrate our highest security offices. The same Muslim Brotherhood that is crucifying Christians and Jews in Egypt. THAT is why I did not support him. He is a Consitutionalist and I like that. But if the Islamists are allowed to go on with their 'cultural jihad' we will have no need of a Constitutionalist in the WH.
So, think carefully folks. Even if it did go down like lilwonders says, we do not have the entire story by any means.

@TheMetallion (1834)
• United States
30 Aug 12
I think you're confused: no one has electoral college votes until the general election. What Ron Paul has are RNC votes.
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@clrumfelt (5597)
• Tennessee Ridge, Tennessee
30 Aug 12
Thanks for the clarification. I just can't figure his motivation. He ran in the Republican primary but doesn't want anything to do with them.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
31 Aug 12
Clrum, I have a customer of mine who is a huge Ron Paul supporter, he was down in Tampa for the convention, and is VERY upset with the RNC. What many people don't understand is that Ron Paul COULD have been the man making the acceptance speech last night. Paul had a plan to win the nomination, and many feel he either won, or was closer than anyone thinks. His plan was to run in the states that aren't winner take all, and at the convention try to get the states that other candidates won to vote for him instead of Romney. No one really knows if this would work, and the RNC made sure that Romney was nominated if the voters said so or not. You might want to ask why they stopped calling out how many votes Ron Paul received?
Paul wouldn't endorse Romney because he doesn't support Romney, nor his views. I am not a crazy Ron Paul supporter, but if he was the republican nominee I would have considered voting for him. He has some very "matter of fact" ideas, and I think that he could run this country better than anyone running for office in the last ten years (including Obama, for all of my right wing (nut) haters out there). I think it was the RNC who weren't happy when the Ron Paul supporters were making more noise than the Romney supporters. I think it is the RNC members who showed poor manners hosting the ENTIRE party, not just the ones that bow down to the RNC.
I think it would be very interesting to see Ron Paul run as a third party candidate. I can tell you that it would be the RNC that would regret their treatment of his supporters, and Romney would pay for it at the polls!!!
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
1 Sep 12
I worked as a volunteer on the Ron Paul Campaign. I did not get elected as a delegate. But I have friends who were. Their messages back to us were pretty bad. It was an all out war with the GOP doing a lot of underhanded things. The big walkout was over the rule changes that would basically stop any grassroots groups from every getting any real delegate representation in the party in future elections. The Romney campaign decided at the last minuate to take away delegates from some states and replace others from other states...getting rid of ron paul supporters who were lawfully elected as delegates by their state and replacing them with romney supporters. When it was going up for a vote on the convention floor the GOP keep some states delegates TRAPPED on buses and refused to let them off. why? they were going to file a minority report to stop the rule changes. also those states would have filed a floor motion to put forth Ron Paul as the nominee for president and force it to a full floor vote. Maine got mad when 1/2 their delegates got taken from them and staged a walk off. I am hearing all kinds of underhanded BS if not out right illegal BS that went on at the convention. Nothing done by the Ron Paul delgates were illegal. They were following the convention rules.
I am hearing a lot of bad things about what happened at the convention...Not just holding delegates hostage on a bus until after the rules change vote was over,or replacing delegates...things like threating people's lives and there have been reports of a few broken fingers. i know of one lady that gathering signatures for the minority report had her paperwork forcefully taken from her by a GOP member.
The media only showed the walk off, they did not show what lead up to the walk off.
Also if anyone was watching...when the rules change was being done on live tv by the muppet man...did anyone else notice that the "I" did not have it...the "na"s did...but they passed it anyway. There is video circulating of the telepromter while this was going on...it was ALL scripted and decided BEFORE the vote, the telepromter muppet man was reading off of said motion passed BEFORE the vote was made. IT was all just a dog and pony show. IT WAS RIGGED. Stupid us played by the rules...we should have known the RNC would not.
I don't want to hear ONE gop person tell us we should fall in line and vote for Romney in November. The GOP has showed us exactly what they think of us and what lengths they will go to to keep us from having a voice in this party. So why support a party or a candidate who has no respect for us or our views and has done everything possible to marginalize us and push us out of the party. The GOP has shown itself to be a corrupt bully, who thinks rules do not apply to them. That they can break them or change them at the drop of a hat to make sure they win and any opposition voice is silenced. No thanks..not a party I want to belong to. If this is how they will treat one of their own...how do you think they will treat the rest of the nation?

@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
1 Sep 12
not as much as I hate the GOP right now, which is saying something...lol. Let's face it...the GOP doesn't care if it gets our votes...their "big tent" doesn't include us. They dont want to include us. They HATE us, more than they hate Obama. because they would rather push us out and loose our support, than try to work together and beat obama. I am going Gary Johnson in November. The GOP has done nothing to earn my vote and everything to push me away.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
1 Sep 12
I'm sorry to hear that. If things went down as you say, something is wrong.
I would caution you though. Obama is all set to take America down. And your present anger may prove to be the undoing of us all.






