Have we done it before?

@celticeagle (189792)
Boise, Idaho
November 11, 2012 2:30pm CST
There are experts that feel that there may be past civilizations that have been totally destroyed and that we have no proof of them ever having existed. Do you believe that mankind has re-evolved more than once? With our dependence on electricity and technology it would seem that if our civilization was totally enialated it would take a long, long time for us to get back to where we are now. Were you aware that there is 'Forever Storage' underground in Hutchison, Kansas full of historical pictures and documents, and even favorite commercial films. And a Seed Bank in Svalbard Global Seed Vault on a frozen island of Spitsbergen near Sweden. Were you aware that these places even existed? Do you think we could start all over?
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
12 Nov 12
Yes, I've heard of "forever storage" and other buried "treasures" of our current civilization. There are many, many things on this earth that are huge mysteries. An "astronaut" found in the ocean off of Japan, ancient air strips in South America and strange formations under the ocean in the Atlantic Ocean, to name a few. I don't know that I actually believe in a prior great civilization of the Earth before now, but there is much we don't know. I'm a Christian and I believe that God created the Earth. Whether it was 6,000 years ago or 6 quadrillion years ago, I don't know. History as presented in the Bible isn't complete. It would take a book as big as the world to hold all of it, I'm sure. History as presented by science could fill us in, but they're too concerned with trying to discredit the little knowledge we already have. We will probably never know, or if we do, it will be too late.
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
12 Nov 12
Sometimes what is "logical and realistic" to us individually isn't so at all. There may be bases of knowledge or wisdom that we don't have so that our conclusions would be false. Nevertheless, I think we agree that there seems to be something missing in what we know about the history of Earth.
• United States
12 Nov 12
peavey, I believe in Creation as a christian, but wonder how much of that could be applied to evolution. In the Old Testament, some of the men lived 900 years, but then the Earth was created in six days! And when you consider that the current calendar wasn't adopted until the 1400's, just how accurate are the dates given prior to then? I am in agreement with you-there does appear to be a lot missing in the story of Earth.
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@celticeagle (189792)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Nov 12
I'm an agnostic so I question alot of what people seem to think God did but I do find these things interesting. Some say that many of the books are missing from the Bible. Makes one such as I wonder what the whole story really is. People do question alot and I find some of it interesting. I think the trick is to sift through it all and find what sounds logical and realistic to us on an individual.
@writersedge (22563)
• United States
11 Nov 12
I also feel that there are civilizations that are gone without a trace. I did not know about the forever storage, but I did know about the global seed vault. Being the plant person that I am. It would depend on what happened as to whether we could start over or not again. Nuclear radiation that destroyed our ability to grow anything with totally contaminated soil, no. Other things, maybe or yes. It depends on what happened.
@celticeagle (189792)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Nov 12
But we don't have to grow in the ground! We can grow in containers with sawdust or in water. And I think if I start saving food I may save alot of seeds. One 'prepper' does this and says it just takes soaking them for 24 hours and then eat the sprouts. More nutritious than the plant itself even. And little pouchs of seeds collected in a freezer bag can go a long way. I don't have a lot of room to save so I think this is the way for me.
@celticeagle (189792)
• Boise, Idaho
19 Nov 12
After math here too after St. Helen's. Food consumable seeds. Right. That sounds smart. I would want the natural ones, not ones that have been treated. My grandmother used to keep seeds she got from the vegetables she grew and kept them in the hoosgow until Spring. She re-used them like that year after year. I will do my research. I will have to get a book or two. You should go back to growing them and eating them. Very nutritious. Take care.
@GardenGerty (169439)
• United States
12 Nov 12
I knew about some of the underground storage in Hutchinson, Ks. It is in an old salt mine. I live about thirty miles from there. I think that people will continue to be creative and resourceful. Yes, it is possible that we have started over more than once.
@celticeagle (189792)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Nov 12
Yes, a salt mine. All the better to preserve items. Thanks.
@AmbiePam (120585)
• United States
18 Nov 12
Yeah, Dirty Jobs featured one of those on their show. Something similar to the seed bank. Makes sense.
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@celticeagle (189792)
• Boise, Idaho
19 Nov 12
I think it is very smart to be so proactive.
@mydanods (6513)
• Nigeria
11 Nov 12
i'd rather ask, of what use could our being aware of previous civilization be to our survival faced with numerous problems like climate change, global financial crisis etc. if these documents can help us solve our present problems, good. but if they are just for academic exercises, then if there were a million civilizations before ours, no use our turning in our beds over those. give a function of those documents and their usefulness then one would wonder why they are not publicly available.
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
12 Nov 12
There are stories of the weather changing and people using stories of their ancestors to help them survive. Like people being in very warm places wearing mostly plant fibers and it gets colder every year. Then the plant fibers are no longer warm enough. They can't leave their homes because it's too cold to hunt, etc. on some days. Then there is the story of Shaman going into a trance and seeing people in previous times in their area hunting. Killing animals, tanning hides, and using the skin and furs. There have been hot periods and cold periods thru-out the history of the world. So some civilizations have probably had to go from cold to hot or hot to cold. Wet to dry and dry to wet. There are stories of the Akashic records, supposedly a great library in another demention that people like Edgar Cayce accessed to help people. If the world went back to dictatorships or royal lineage rule, then documents about democracy and voting might be of interest to people in the future.
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@celticeagle (189792)
• Boise, Idaho
19 Nov 12
Interesting about the Akashic records. I enjoy reading about Edgar Cayce. What an interesting character. I am glad his son continued after him. To keep the records alive that is.
@celticeagle (189792)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Nov 12
What use? None! But it would sure be interesting to know I think. I am curious about such things. It may not be of ANY use to know but it would sure be interesting. And if they aren't known how can they be available?
@robspeakman (1700)
11 Nov 12
The History books are full of tales of prior civilisations over the years, Mayan, Inca, Greek, Babylonians, Chinese, Roman and many more. Each society is more advanced than they previous. As for secret storage of seeds, art and literature - this is an open secret.
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@celticeagle (189792)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Nov 12
We know this but they are saying what if there were ones before these? And I wonder how many people are aware of the 'open secret'.
@writersedge (22563)
• United States
12 Nov 12
They thought humans were around for a number of years. Then they found and carbon dated people who were around way longer. There is ever present the story of the lost city of Atlantis. Many people speculate that it fell into the sea. So it makes people wonder and imagine.
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@celticeagle (189792)
• Boise, Idaho
19 Nov 12
I find the story of Atlantis very interesting. I guess, like in everything else, there are some historians and scientists who are not very respectable.
@bunnybon7 (50970)
• Holiday, Florida
12 Nov 12
wow 3 so far of gloom and doom discussions you are on a roll. you must be watching all that stuff on tv about the sandy survivors. very sad thanks for all this ideas tho. i had no idea about these places in sweden, etc. thats so interesting. you would make a great investigator. did you ever work in the law feild?
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@celticeagle (189792)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Nov 12
I've been watching this stuff for years! I just decided to try this group out and see what every one thought. There are six discussions I started, 5 on this subject and one about my notifications going south AGAIN. hehe
@NailTech (6874)
• United States
11 Nov 12
wow no i was never aware of those things you mentioned. who knows if there is anything else like that. i think there could very well be past civilizations and no proof they existed indeed. that is an interesting thought provoking discussion. thanks for bringing it to our attention! i'm interested in this kind of thing.
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@celticeagle (189792)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Nov 12
I am too. I guess some aren't as open minded and curious as we are. I find such things fascinating.