Pretty As You Please Beasts!
@flowerchilde (12529)
United States
December 1, 2012 8:52am CST
If outside your village where you live with your family and tribe, there was a beast which demanded a human sacrifice as a meal.. then later two for a meal, and on and on until it demanded twenty, thirty people for a meal, would we just keep feeding it? I can understand why the Book of Revelation calls human governments, beasts!
- Do you think a big government just naturally, is bound to get bossy? What do you think is the best way to keep a government from getting too big and,or too bossy?
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@Adoniah (7512)
• United States
1 Dec 12
Great analogy Flower! How do you keep a gov. from getting too big and bossy? You vote the bas*ards out! Unfortunately, there are mitigating factors here in the states, like 50% of the people on the dole...They are certainly not going to vote against their sugar daddy. There is also the problem of apathy on the part of the intelligent folks. They have basically given up.
Something has to be done to fire people up and pull them out of their apathy and stand up for what is right.
Bureaucracy begats bureaucracy...It is sell sustaining and growth oriented!
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@urbandekay (18278)
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1 Dec 12
I had no idea things had got so bad in the USA
all the best, urban
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@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
1 Dec 12
It has been this bad for many many years. People are just now paying attention to it is all. Anyone who complains about any president AFTER the mid 80s (though it is probably a little earlier than that) is just now paying attention. They "shrink wrap" history and the like in schools. Some people who lived during that time, they just don't remember.
It is one of those things where people don't pay attention until it hits home because lets face it, looking at the world logical sense for most people is a very very depressing thing. If people would have been paying attention to the government before it got to big which was a long while ago, then they would have realized well before the 1990s how bad it was getting and how big the government was getting. The moment we "needed" 535 representatives (435 House/100 senators) should have raised a red flag, but it didn't. People were told this would give their states more representative power and so the government just kept growing.
Now we have two supposed political parties with way too much power and both sides have their special interest to attend to before the people.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
1 Dec 12
It is not that we have 535 representatives (we've had that many from the beginning), it is that we have given our personal responsibilty over to them. It is lack of personal responsibility for ourselves that is the problem. It starts with not paying attention to what type of men/women we send to Washington to make our decisions for us. If they are liars in their personal life, they will not stop being liars when we give them our trust. If they are greedy and irresponsible with their own money, they will not become less greedy or irresponsible when we give them power to spend our money.
When we are taught from earliest childhood that we are owed something, that we all deserve something without effort, that we are unable to solve our own problems, that we shouldn't ever be expected to do without, that we should trust liars, cheats and power driven men to rule rather than govern because it is all so complicated WE could never be trusted to govern ourselves...you get what you give. We have given the government the power they now demand from us. IF we'd not given them that power in the first place, if we'd taken responsibility for ourselves and our choices, they'd not have the power over us that they do.
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
1 Dec 12
I think Thomas Jefferson was right when he said something to the effect that our democracy wouldn't work forever, but when it quit working "the people will know what to do." The only way to keep any government from getting too big and bossy is to take the power away from them now and then and put it back into the hands of the people. In a word, "revolution." We've seen it over and over in history. The outcome is sometimes good, sometimes not so good, but it's up to the people and that's all there is to it.
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
2 Dec 12
Any government is just the sum of the people who are in it. People are self serving and hungry for power. It's human nature. So when they get a little power, they want more and more and more...
All governments are like that eventually. Our founding fathers were no fools. The Constitution and its amendments were carefully written with the intention of enabling the citizens to take back power when it was taken from them.
I'm not advocating a revolution, just stating the facts. Sooner or later, something will give.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
1 Dec 12
Funny thing, we are told that revolution in Egypt and Libya is a grand thing, but apply the very same thing happeing to America and it becomes treasonous thinking in many people's minds.
They do not know history, they have been brainwashed to believe that somehow OUR government is benevolent and kind in all it's thoughts concerning it's citizens.
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@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
4 Dec 12
The only thing I know to do with such a beast is to kill it before it wipes out the whole village.
@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
1 Dec 12
Well I don't believe in the bible, however many religions usually tend to call something that gets too big or gains too much power as a beast or some sort of evil, corrupted entity.
Now, the only way to keep a government from getting too big is for the common man to fully understand the needs and wants to running a country. A government doesn't get too big in a day, a few days, a couple months, four years, or eight years. It gets to be too big and too powerful when the common man stops paying attention to their politics and focuses only on themselves. Heck, half the people who want bigger government don't understand what that means and the ones who want smaller don't understand what that means.
What that leads to is people having the 'I have no choice' mentality that leads to the government getting bigger. They are told who to blame, how to blame them, and they do. Most political parties in my opinion are full of it.
Until the common man can unite on issues, there is no way to shrink a government. There will be just people who feel one way and people who feel the other way both sets of people just paying their politicians for hope either way.
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@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
1 Dec 12
I recently heard "after apathy comes dependence and a nation does not come back from dependence"(upon government).
AidaLily, you said it about the parties - "and both sides have their special interest to attend to before the people." And also "Until the common man can unite on issues, there is no way to shrink a government." I think sadly that may be quite true!
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From George Washington’s Farewell Address, warns against the party system - “It serves to distract the Public Councils, and enfeeble the Public Administration.... agitates the Community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms; kindles the animosity of one.... against another.... it opens the door to foreign influence and corruption... thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.”
"However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion." GEORGE WASHINGTON, Farewell Address, Sep. 17, 1796
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
1 Dec 12
There is a disconnect in modern man's thinking.
Cause and effect. Our choices have consequences. If we do not accept responsibility for our choices, someone else will. And the degree to which we act irresponsible, that is the degree to which we become enslaved to that someone else who does takes responsibility.
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@STOUTjodee (3670)
• United States
1 Dec 12
The people have allowed the government to get big because they believe that the government "Knows best." When you allow that to happen you also allow them to have control over you. It's been happening for years, all these laws that are passed. For example, MADD! Now ,that's good that there have laws for people who drink and drive. But the government came in and said this is the "law." What about seat belts? Yes, I agree that one should wear a seat belt when driving. What about school buses that carry children, none of them have seat belts. So what I'm getting at is that when the government is doing "what is best " for us , it doesn't necessarily mean the law is for everyone! Also, when the government makes all these laws we have to obey to, the law enforcers take it upon themselves to just accuse anyone just because they're in power! It use to be ,you're innocent before proven guilty, now it's you're guilty before proven innocent.
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@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
1 Dec 12
It depends on the school buses, I would like to add. For some elementary schools and preschools around here they do have seat belts. However, public transportation does not have seat belts, high school students on a school bus do not have seat belts, etc.
There are government agencies and law enforcement officials who twist the laws. A friend of mine is fighting to get social services out of her life because she works 40 hours plus a week and they came on her only day off while she was resting and she had dishes in the sink and laundry separated into piles on her dining room floor as her washer and dryer were in the kitchen. They called it child neglect because of the dirty laundry though she had more than enough clothing to last a month for all of them and the kids were in clean clothing as well. However, like most government agencies they are fighting to keep their funding and so they have to 'work' for it.
The law is most certainly not for everyone.
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@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
1 Dec 12
Amen to all..
And as usual Debra, you hit the nail on the head!!
And as usual Debra, you hit the nail on the head!!@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
1 Dec 12
Again, we have chosen this for ourselves. All in the name of 'social justice' for all. We stopped caring for one another as individuals, and accepted that it is not our problem if our 'neighbor' is in need. It then became the government's problem to 'fix', not ours.
When we see real neglect and then expect the government to 'fix' it, this is what happens. No bureaucracy behaves with 'compassion or love', nor should we expect it to. Only the individual human being is capable of human emotions. When we allow ourselves to be seen as groups, not individuals...it is easy to give up those individual rights to rulers who do not consider us as individuals, each as a unique person with their own unique circumstances but as a collective who must be managed.
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@hoseasmate (720)
• United States
3 Dec 12
I would never start feeding the beast to begin with! I would have to find the dragon slayer for the beast. The big government must be bossy and self perpetuating because that is the only way they stay in power. I think that if government truly remains of the people and by the people that it will stay smaller. I think that when the government has career politicians that is when the issues arise that make the big government unbearable. The entitlement programs and the recipients of those programs and the reasons that government continues to expand. There must be enforcers of those programs...add more staff. There must be more government to oversee the new staff...add more government. And so the story grows bigger and bigger and bigger.




