This is going to be boring, but I found it interesting

@Rollo1 (16676)
Boston, Massachusetts
October 7, 2015 6:56pm CST
I was reading a post by @LadyDuck about the explosion of wildlife in the exclusion zone at Chernobyl. They have seen certain animal populations bouncing back, and the wolves have increased by a huge number. And then I was reading another article about Chernobyl's wildlife on the net, and I clicked on a linked article about what was wrong with Chernobyl's forests. And that article said that the radiation was slowing down organic decay. In fact, the article quoted someone saying that 15-20 years after the accident, there were still all these trees on the ground that had been felled by the blast. He said they should all have been gone in ten years. That seemed odd to me, so I decided to go look up the rate at which trees decay. And I found a study by a Norwegian scientist who said it depends on what kind of tree it is. Some trees take centuries to decompose. Others might take a hundred years, or if it's a tree that has very little resin in it, it might be as quick as 50 years. Not 10 years. Between 50 years and hundreds of years. And I guess my only point is that lots of news articles contain misinformation. Lots of news articles are biased or badly researched. And to say that trees on the ground means that the radiation is preserving them for excessive periods is utter nonsense. Well, maybe it is. Depending on what kind of trees they are. The article didn't say. Journalists and scientists are like doctors. They might sound like they know what they are talking about, but now and again, you just know that they've missed the real problem and you seek a second opinion. Except that with scientists and journalists, you should always seek a second opinion. http://www.newser.com/story/183798/in-chernobyls-forests-decay-is-terribly-stalled.html
A fallen pine on the forest floor can take several hundred years longer to decompose than a spruce.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
8 Oct 15
Not boring at all - and I get what you mean. Just like news travels fast, so does misinformation! And it's almost as if they want it to - the goal is to make those stories "viral" - the more dramatic it sounds, the better. As long as it's a partial truth, it's not exactly a lie - to them. That makes sense about the trees too - even the ones of the same species may not decay at the same rate - it all depends on a lot of factors!
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
8 Oct 15
I don't know if they think it's a lie, but I think that they believe a lie is justified if it serves an end. Such as this scientist may exaggerate if he thinks that people should be more concerned, etc.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
8 Oct 15
Even the Norwegian scientist appear to have omitted a relevant factor, which is the soil itself that the tree is lay on. The amount of acidity and other constituents in the soil would affect the rate of decomposition, as would the weather and other environmental factors.
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
8 Oct 15
I think the article did talk about rainy areas, and trees in damp areas having less resin.
@jstory07 (148720)
• Roseburg, Oregon
8 Oct 15
Experts sometimes do not really knew what they are talking about. than you get another expert that will tell you the first one was wrong.
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@valmnz (17095)
• New Zealand
8 Oct 15
I too would expect to see fallen trees still around long after ten years. In our forests we see ancient fallen logs all the time.
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
8 Oct 15
It's what I would expect, too. Just didn't make sense to me, which is why I did the research.
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@LadyDuck (502179)
• Italy
8 Oct 15
I completely agree with you. Internet is a great instrument to be connected with the world, but it's also a way for people to spread fake news and misinformation. I know that also the soil can play a role in the decomposition of the trees (and not only the trees).
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
8 Oct 15
The resin in trees is the main factor, so one type of tree will last centuries longer than another. The dampness of the soil and the air has an effect. It seems to me that everyone knows that Chernobyl was a great disaster, this fellow did not need to exaggerate claims about tree decomposition in order to bring home that point.
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@LadyDuck (502179)
• Italy
8 Oct 15
@Rollo1 I think that there is not a lot of difference with Fukushima, their exclusion zone is now an overgrown wilderness. I have seen photos taken from helicopters, it's weird to see so many abandoned cars and other items in the middle of what now looks like a forest.
• Midland, Michigan
9 Oct 15
@LadyDuck I'd think having less than the normal amount of residents in an area would also factor as to why areas are becoming more overgrown than expected.
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@jaboUK (64346)
• United Kingdom
8 Oct 15
I certainly didn't find this boring. There is a tree that blew down in a gale during my childhood, nearly 70 years ago, and it's still there, and children still play on it as I used to do.
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
8 Oct 15
Ah! Corroborating evidence! The fellow in the article (a professor, mind you) said that if a tree went down in his yard, it would be sawdust in 10 years. Pffft! 70 years and still there!
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@simone10 (54180)
• Louisville, Kentucky
8 Oct 15
I don't think this is boring either. It's very informative and does make you think. I agree that not everything you read is accurate.
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@Tampa_girl7 (54714)
• United States
8 Oct 15
I enjoy learning new things. This was definitely not boring.
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
8 Oct 15
I feel quite obsessed with Chernobyl lately. I wrote another one. And I feel more coming on.
@ison_1 (1240)
8 Oct 15
Hi Anja :) Very true, in fact I think we should always get a second opinion, or do a little research ourselves (I am taking heed of this from now on) :)
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
8 Oct 15
Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see, John.
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@Dragonairy1 (1722)
• Newcastle Upon Tyne, England
8 Oct 15
hmm interesting, I've never really considered before how long it takes a tree to decay, you are always interesting and surprising (in a good way)
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
8 Oct 15
Sometimes I get lost in these slightly unimportant but completely useless fact finding missions.
@PainsOnSlate (21845)
• Canada
8 Mar 16
Not boring to me, I saw this on the side and was curious. Very interesting and you are right. I wonder what kind of trees were growing in Chernobyl? I'm guessing we will never know.