Should schools select by ability?
By John Welford
@indexer (4852)
Leicester, England
October 15, 2015 3:33am CST
The UK Education Secretary has just approved the first new Grammar School for 50 years, by reviving the notion that children should be selected for secondary school on the basis of a pass/fail test taken at the age of 11 that will profoundly affect their future lives.
For those not familiar with the UK education system, it was reformed back in the 1960s/70s so that (in most areas) children were not divided into different schools on the basis of ability but all went to the same "comprehensive" school. Within that school they would mix freely with other children of all backgrounds and abilities and thus gain a social as well as an academic education. They might be educated in different groups within the school, but this would be done on a subject-by-subject basis - a child who was very good at maths but not so bright at history would therefore get the sort of teaching that was best suited to their abilities in those subjects.
Prior to that reform, all children took the "11 plus" and either went to a "grammar" or "secondary modern" school. The grammar schools concentrated on academic subjects, with the aim of getting as many pupils as possible to University. The secondary moderns taught the basics of the academic subjects but also included more practical subjects.
The assumption in making the divide was that a child who was good at one academic subject would be good at all of them - this meant that a kid who was brilliant at languages but slipped up in the 11-plus due to poor maths ability would not get the language teaching that would help them to develop that ability and go on to study it at University.
I always felt that this was a pernicious system and was delighted when the switch to comprehensive education was made.
I do not say this as someone who suffered from the old system, because I passed the 11-plus, went to a grammar school, and then to university. However, I never mixed again with many of the kids I had known at primary school level, and I never learned any of the practical skills of woodwork, metalwork, etc, that were taught at the secondary modern.
I therefore regard the current move to revive the grammar schools as a deeply regressive step that should be roundly condemned.
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@indexer (4852)
• Leicester, England
15 Oct 15
College level is one thing, but 11? (Due to having been born in August I was actually aged 10 when I sat the 11-plus!)
@GardenGerty (169406)
• United States
15 Oct 15
I believe I would agree with you on this one. Besides the fact that everyone benefits from learning practical skills, there is also the fact that a student may not be mature enough to pass the 11 test until they are thirteen or so. People mature differently.
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@indexer (4852)
• Leicester, England
16 Oct 15
That's not a question I can answer, because I have only lived in the UK. However, there is certainly evidence that wealthy parents in the UK do everything they can to buy places for their children in the few grammar schools that remain. They do this by hiring expensive tutors to coach children for the entrance exams.
@destry (2567)
• Kirkwall, Scotland
15 Oct 15
I went through the comprehensive education system, and wish that the old system was still in place. I think that reverting back to this system now will be good for British born children as so many schools these days are flooded by children who can't speak English, and this slows down the ability to impart information from teachers to students.
@destry (2567)
• Kirkwall, Scotland
15 Oct 15
@indexer no. But as non English speakers need more assistance to catch up they should be given that help - and children who don't need to catch up should be pushed forward and taught to the best of their ability. We should not aim to teach to the lowest level in the class room, so separating the classes will be better for those who need help, and those who can progress forward.
@poehere (15123)
• French Polynesia
15 Oct 15
It's hard to say on this one. When I went to school my Father traveled and we were always put in a school from his job. When I had my daughter my job traveled too. My company had special teachers to teach our children. I do not know too much about the public school system and the way things are
@pcunix (210)
• Middleboro, Massachusetts
15 Oct 15
In the U.S. when I went to school in the 1950's, we were assigned to different classes starting in 7th grade. Same school, but you might be in 71A for math and 72B for English if you were not as good at that as math.
Same school, though. Just very different courses.
@indexer (4852)
• Leicester, England
15 Oct 15
That strikes me as being sensible, because children will develop at different rates in different subjects. It is what happens in UK comprehensive schools, although there is also mixed ability teaching.
One thing to beware of is having low expectations of children - they can sometimes surprise teachers with their insights, which can be encouraged by being surrounded by children who have been recognised as having higher ability.
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@celticeagle (189793)
• Boise, Idaho
15 Oct 15
I think kids should have an all round learning experience. Basic skills in all areas is better than not.







