CNBC Moderators Under Fire for Debate "Performances"

@Rollo1 (16676)
Boston, Massachusetts
October 29, 2015 7:59am CST
The winner of last night’s GOP debate is a matter of opinion. But there’s no doubt about the identity of the biggest loser. That was CNBC. It wasn’t just that the tone of the questions were insolent and insulting, it was that they were occasionally factually wrong. CNBC moderator John Harwood attacked Marco Rubio’s tax plan by stating that the Tax Foundation said it would help the rich more than the poor. Rubio pointed out to him that Harwood had made that accusation earlier this month, then had to correct his own report because it wasn’t true. Harwood denied having corrected himself, but it’s all there in a Twitter update where Harwood corrected his first report and admitted that the Tax Foundation said that under Rubio’s plan the bottom ten percent of earners do twice as well as the top ten percent. With weeks to prepare for this debate, how is it that John Harwood was still repeating his original false report even after having to correct it himself publicly? That’s sloppy. I found it interesting when moderator Betsy Quick charged Carly Fiorina with having been a bad CEO, which she supported by pointing out that Fiorina was fired by the board of HP. Fiorina stated that they had differences in the board room, but that Tom Perkins who voted to fire her has since stated that it was a mistake to do so. Quick was quick to jump in and attack Perkins for some controversial views, such as believing that only the rich should vote. Fiorina shut her down by stating “that’s why we had differences in the board room”. It didn’t seem to occur to Betsy Quick the weakness of her talking point - Carly Fiorina was fired by a man that Quick holds a low opinion of. Fiorina turned that question around deftly and made the moderator look foolish. Ted Cruz had an outstanding moment when he pointed out the insulting and ridiculous questions asked by the moderators, including John Harwood asking Trump if he was the “comic book version” of a presidential candidate. Audience response was vigorously in agreement with Cruz as he stated “The questions that have been asked so far in this debate illustrate why the American people don’t trust the media. This is not a cage match. And if you look at he questions—Donald Trump, are you a comic book villain? Ben Carson, can you do math?... Marco Rubio, why don’t you resign? Jeb Bush, why have your numbers fallen?” Chris Christie grabbed a bit of the spotlight in this battle with the media, by sneering at the question about Fantasy Football. He rightly pointed out that regulating Fantasy Football was not a major issue facing the country. The moderators were booed, the candidates were mostly cheered. Despite the poorly-researched questions asked and the insulting statements made by the moderators, a lot of substantive issues were discussed and I think that as that happens more and more, Trump will fade from the spotlight (he under-performed, with emphasis on the “performed” in last night’s debate). Rand Paul was largely ignored by the moderators, and I can only guess it was because they had nothing on him and therefore, had no insults to hurl or accusations to lob. Debates are supposed to be a forum where the voters learn more about where the candidates stand on the issues. It isn’t a showcase for snarky “journalists” to prove how clever they think they are. Perhaps future debate moderators will learn from this debacle and try to live up to the sacred trust of the Fourth Estate.
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11 responses
• Canada
29 Oct 15
It's wrong to have the debate become between the candidates and the media. Sensationalism isn't the best way for journalists to go. Voters really want to learn who these candidates are behind the slogans. Voters want to know how these candidates stand on the issues.
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
29 Oct 15
The moderators wanted to be the stars of the show, but it really backfired on them. They looked petty and came off as being uninformed or using talking points that were not based in fact.
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• United States
29 Oct 15
You can go to Select Smart dot com and fill out a questionnaire about various issues. The site then compares your answers to how each candidate stands and tells you how much they agree with your viewpoint by percentage. It's great.
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• Canada
30 Oct 15
@ElizabethWallace What a great innovation! Imagine having that kind of direct feedback on the candidates' stands on things. Of course, there will probably be more issues than they cover so hearing the candidates give their responses directly will still be something I'd want to do.
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• United States
29 Oct 15
Years ago the News portion of the media business was moved to the Entertainment division. It has been downhill since.
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
29 Oct 15
I love the old-time movies about newspaper reporters and that zeal to get to the truth and to bring it to the people. That's the real function of news reporters, the real function for the free press. But you're right, they've become entertainment. And it's okay if a show is clearly opinion and entertainment, but serious news has to be taken seriously. And it seems everyone wants to be a star.
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• United States
29 Oct 15
@Rollo1 Yes, and that needs to change. What are they teaching in journalism classes nowadays anyway?
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@slund2041 (3314)
• United States
30 Oct 15
In my opinion is Trump did not want people to judge him as a "Comic Book Version" then he should have not ran for Presidency. He is a joking matter, now others may feel differently. Like I said, this is only my opinion. I think it should have been only serious questions asked, but I get why it was asked. Let's face it... I would never want Trump as my President.
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
30 Oct 15
This wasn't about the candidates. This was about the media deciding for the public what they should think and even stating outright lies. Now, maybe you agree with Trump being painted as a comic book character, but the moderator of a debate has to look beyond his or her own bias and present fair, and important questions in order to elicit the kind of information the public wants. Seriously , the moderators have no business injecting their personal political prejudice into the debate. Think about it this way: the press must also serve the people, that is why it is free, that is why it is so important that a free press is Constitutionally guaranteed. Would you think it was a serious debate question to ask Hillary why her pantsuits are so unfashionable?
• Preston, England
29 Oct 15
The debate sounds badly organized from all reports - Wish it had aired on full in the UK too
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
29 Oct 15
I am sure it will be on youtube, they usually are - both live and afterwards.
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@BelleStarr (61463)
• United States
30 Oct 15
I didn't watch but it seems that it was not all that helpful in seeing where the candidates stand.
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
30 Oct 15
Actually, it turned out to be a pretty good debate with a lot of substance. The candidates did a good job of explaining their positions. But some of the questions were not designed to elicit that information, they were insults and baseless accusations. So the moderators, on a financial network, should have been exploring the candidates' position on financial issues, but instead lobbed a lot of personal attacks that told us nothing.
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@jstory07 (148720)
• Roseburg, Oregon
29 Oct 15
I think is is all a big circus show and we have a bunch of clowns running.
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• United States
29 Oct 15
The candidates demanded less time on stage. I think that was part of the problem this time.
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
30 Oct 15
Last night, the clowns were the moderators.
@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
30 Oct 15
@ElizabethWallace I don't think the problem had anything to do with time. It was clear from the outset that the moderators meant to eviscerate all of the candidates instead of asking them questions about issues. If there had been much more time, the audience might have risen up and gone after the moderators with torches and pitchforks.
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@sofssu (23660)
30 Oct 15
I watched a couple of these debates in the past and I am bored to say the least..Politics never interested me.
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
30 Oct 15
I both enjoy it and want to throw things.
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@1creekgirl (44560)
• United States
30 Oct 15
Very well said, Anja. We watched the debate and it was clear to everyone that the moderators were there to try to trick or trap the candidates, not to have a serious debate about the issues.
• United States
30 Oct 15
I didn't watch it but heard it was exactly as you said
@just4him (323168)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
29 Oct 15
Journalists are falling to an all time low. Even Trump looked good because he had little to say from what I understand of your article. I didn't watch the debate.
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• United States
30 Oct 15
When journalists are asked to moderate or guide a debate among hopefuls for the nomination for president of the country, the journalists need to approach this task with humility and respect, regardless of their personal political opinions. That was not the case. The journalists argued with the candidates as if the journalists themselves were superior. This is a fax pas. It is bad form to place yourself ahead of someone whom the voters will try to select to lead the most important nation on earth. The task of being president takes its toll on whomever is selected by the voters. Anyone brave enough to try for the nomination deserves the respect of all citizens. Showing disrespect is an insult to America and her leadership.