Being executor to a will can be a headache

@JudyEv (381751)
Rockingham, Australia
February 21, 2017 11:31pm CST
I promised @Asylum that I'd write about Vince's experience of being executor of a will. While I've heard about others' experiences this is the only case of which I have first-hand knowledge. Obviously every will is different and every country no doubt has very different 'rules' about dealing with a deceased person's estate. Vince was executor for one brother and his wife. The wife became ill with cancer. When someone is very ill, and even in their last days, it is difficult, as executor, to ask them to reveal any passwords you might need, even if you happened to think of it. The wife worked in a government department until she became too ill and kept all details of her financial status quite private, even from her husband. He didn't know how many bank accounts she had, which company looked after her superannuation, whether she had any monies owing, or store accounts. He suspected she might have quite substantial debts and was worried about covering them. She was buying her work car from her employer. All her accounts were in her own name and all became frozen upon her death. I can't remember all the ins and outs now but you can imagine that it took quite a while to sort out her affairs. Trying to access her online files was the first headache. No-one would give out any information until Vince had been clearly established as the executor. Even that required specific documents which took time to procure. Such security was reassuring in one way but made progress slow and painful. In the end, it all got done. Now to the husband – there are seven children in the family. His will states everything is to be split evenly between them. The easy way would be to sell everything and split the proceeds. But should the piano that has been in the family for four generations be sold when one son desperately wants it? Another two would each like the very substantial and potentially valuable stamp collection. One might swear her mother said she could have the pearl necklace given to the mother by the great grandmother. An executor worth his salt will want to accommodate the wishes of the children as much as he can. Vin's brother didn't really want to hear that he needed to deal with some of these issues before his death and as Vince will be in his 70s at least when the brother dies, he decided he wasn't up to the challenge. Another executor has been appointed. I don't think these are extreme cases really but it does highlight some of the issues that might occur. Of course for a single person or couple with no descendants finalising an estate may be quite a simple task. If it isn't simple and/or you need to hire a lawyer (and in some circumstances a lawyer MUST be engaged) it can be expensive, stressful and time-consuming. Sorry this is so long. Photo is of kangaroo paws growing in a Western Australian cemetery.
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• Philippines
22 Feb 17
That is sad that he has to undergo a painful lost and when being an executor of a person you cherish the most. I think that is double pain and a headache. God bless.
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• Philippines
22 Feb 17
@JudyEv Yeah I know. And it is also hard to put their things in a box. And it is really sad to go home without them.
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
23 Feb 17
My husband was executor of his father's will, but everything was left to my husband. His sister was completely written out of the will. She did ask for some dishes, only because they were valuable, and he allowed her to have them just to avoid drama. Thankfully hubby's aunt, who has no children, chose someone else to be the executor of her will!
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• United States
23 Feb 17
@JudyEv My mom didn't leave a will, nor did she leave anything of value or any money behind. She had a roommate though who somehow thought he was entitled to all her belongings after she passed. When I went to take some of her things home with me he kept telling me what I could and could not have. My husband ended up paying him so I could have my mom's computer desk.. the roommate didn't even use a computer!
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@JudyEv (381751)
• Rockingham, Australia
23 Feb 17
It isn't always an easy task. Vince was executor for both my parents but they were relatively straightforward. I'd forgotten he'd done those when I wrote the post.
@JudyEv (381751)
• Rockingham, Australia
24 Feb 17
@katsmeow1213 Very greedy for starters when he had no entitlement to anything.
@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
22 Feb 17
I was delighted to see that you had posted this. A couple of those potential issues had crossed my mind, namely the password scenario and the knowledge of what bank accounts exist. For example, my family may be unaware that I have a PayPal account, but at present I have around $1800 in it. $ is not a misprint, I keep my PayPal account in US Dollars because the sites I have used pay in US Dollars and it is handy for purchasing overseas. I have planned to place all relevant data on a flash drive and give it to my brother. The desire by one neices for a specific item did not occur to me, but I cannot see that really happening. My nieces are very amenable and get on well together.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
22 Feb 17
@JudyEv I certainly can and your post is very useful.
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@JudyEv (381751)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 17
You sound very organised too but I'm sure you can see how it could become quite a nightmare in some cases.
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@BelleStarr (61463)
• United States
23 Feb 17
We have been the executors and it has been very difficult and time-consuming. I am the executor for my mother but thank goodness all the personal stuff has been split already.
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@BelleStarr (61463)
• United States
23 Feb 17
@JudyEv You are right of course but we just let everyone have a go at what was in my mother's house and didn't argue at all. With my father in law it was a little more difficult.
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@JudyEv (381751)
• Rockingham, Australia
23 Feb 17
It is often the personal stuff that causes the problems.
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• United States
22 Feb 17
My sister and I were co-executrixes of my father's will....and I was 850 miles away- so she did have the brunt of things. although we did go up to Jersey for a week to run here and there. My father was extremely organized which made is a lot easier....I learned from that and I have a list of instructions on how to do everything from banking to bill paying in the safe for my husband if something happens to me.
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@JudyEv (381751)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 17
I'm sure we have learnt from our experience too and have made things as easy as possible - providing I declutter a bit more!
• United States
22 Feb 17
@JudyEv I've always been an organized person so I tend to go that way with everything.
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@andriaperry (118793)
• Anniston, Alabama
23 Feb 17
I have accounted for 4 separate estates, 2 still open due to money owed to minors. The longest was just closed it lasted 18 years! Yes and it was all about what the mother gave in the will, a few of them wanted it all, that one was closed but in the end they did hire an attorney. One is still pending because there is no money to close it, she gave away her home and that was all she had. It is a major headache, for 18 years I keep the books for one estate. I think I am going to do this differently so no courts have to be involved. BUT I do have a will.
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@JudyEv (381751)
• Rockingham, Australia
23 Feb 17
Gosh, you must have been really stressed with it from time to time. 18 years is a long time to wind up an estate.
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@andriaperry (118793)
• Anniston, Alabama
23 Feb 17
@JudyEv You should have seen the paper work! I sorted it by year to show the judge.
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@allknowing (153544)
• India
22 Feb 17
My husband was the Executor for his mother's will. There were issues here and there. He engaged a lawyer who handled the whole thing and settled the matter.
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@JudyEv (381751)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 17
That's a good way to do it.
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@jstory07 (148701)
• Roseburg, Oregon
22 Feb 17
That is a job that I would never want to have.
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@JudyEv (381751)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 17
I can think of much better ways to spend time.
@Tampa_girl7 (54714)
• United States
22 Feb 17
It would certainly be a big responsibility and I imagine a bit of a headache.
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@JudyEv (381751)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 17
It can be quite tricky with a will to follow and others thinking the executor has the power to do otherwise.
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@Jessicalynnt (50523)
• Centralia, Missouri
22 Feb 17
the only other way, is the things they want, the value, is taken out of their share, and if they owe more, they pay their sib for the remaining, but I wouldnt want in that mess myself, makes sense to remember to put down all accounts and passwords in the safe or something
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@JudyEv (381751)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 17
It would be so helpful if people would just think things through a little and make provision for providing passwords or whatever. That's a good idea about taking out the value.
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@Inlemay (17712)
• South Africa
24 Feb 17
We have appointed our BANK to do all our Executing of our Wills if need be.
@DianneN (254949)
• United States
22 Feb 17
My husband and our lawyer son were executors of my husband's brother's will. To this day, once of our nieces won't speak to us.
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@JudyEv (381751)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 17
If the will was followed, there is not much point in her blaming anyone but her father for the outcome. Some seem to think the executor can do what he wants but that's not - or shouldn't be - the case.
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@teamfreak16 (43567)
• Denver, Colorado
22 Feb 17
Luckily, I've never had to do this. I'm too irresponsible!
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@JudyEv (381751)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 17
There are benefits to being thought not 'responsible' enough to deal with an estate.
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@FayeHazel (40230)
• United States
22 Feb 17
Sounds stressful and challenging
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@JudyEv (381751)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Feb 17
It can be but can be less so with a bit of thought on the part of the person drawing up the will.
@noni1959 (13009)
• United States
23 Feb 17
When one is appointed the executor, they need to gather all the information immediately. If the person refuses to give it, then the appointed person should bow out. It is indeed a major headache. I had people come out of the woodwork saying they were told..... I have already given my heirlooms to my children and anything I have left will be sold and split. I don't have much of value anymore but if I get something later I'll make sure it's written up.