Your Job Does Not Define You
By pumpkinjam
@pumpkinjam (8876)
United Kingdom
May 21, 2017 3:14pm CST
At the weekend, my big son, Midi, was in a play. As always, I enjoyed watching the show and am very proud of Midi. I also helped out by selling tickets for the interval raffle. I won two prizes myself - a box of chocolate and some jewellery. I took Mini and D to watch on Friday night and, because I was there to help last night, I got to watch the second half again.
So that was all groovy. What brings me to this discussion, though, is a conversation between me, D, and a friend's partner. I shall call them AC and S. Well, AC didn't really have much to do with this particular conversation but it was the first time I'd really talked to her partner. We were just chatting. S asked D about what he did for a living. As D is unable to work, I know that such questions make him uncomfortable. I could see that he wasn't sure how to answer. He pointed out that he was disabled yet S, despite saying he could see that, more or less dismissed that fact and expected an answer to his original inquisition.
Of course, there are plenty of people with disabilities who are able to work. However, there are also those who have disabilities and illnesses which make it impossible or, at least, highly unlikely to find an employer willing and able to cater to their needs. D is one such person. He already feels bad that he can't look after us as he feels he should (in a nice way, not in a misogynistic way!). I remind him that he does look after us, and that his role is just as important (a fact which I know he recognises but still seems to have difficulty accepting its importance when he's the one doing it). I also regularly remind him that he has made plenty of contributions to society in many ways. I remind him that he was a soldier - a medic at that - so he's contributed that way. He's also been a paramedic - I don't think anyone would argue that that is an important contribution.
Anyway, he still feels bad that he is unable to support us in the way he feels he should. So, coupled with the expectations from other people, this is difficult for him. He does take occasional commissions for computer work if there is no deadline and he can work from home. So he talked about that. I realised something, though, when S also asked me what I do. I do work but, it seems, my answer is different every time I'm asked, and I am often doing more than one job at a time. I found that I am sometimes unsure as to how to answer that question.
Well, it does seem that 'society' judges us on what we do for work. We even judge ourselves. I guess, if we have a 'profession', it's not too bad. If you are, say, a doctor, a teacher, a nurse, that's not so bad. But not everyone wants to talk about what they do. They might be embarrassed, they might not be able to work but don't want all and sundry to know why. I'm sure that, as a teenager, we spent more time talking about the types of music or television we enjoyed. I know I would prefer that sort of thing, although S asked my son, Mini, what music he was into. Mini is not into any music!
My point is that, while it is a common and usual thing to ask what job a person does, it seems that certain answers require explanations. I, personally, would rather talk about things that aren't work. For some, their job is a large part of who they are. For many, it is not. I have no idea what defines me but, apart from being a tutor, a carer, a PA, and a mum, I'm also a lover of theatre and music, someone who enjoys tabletop games, swimming, and going for nature walks. There are lots of other things I enjoy just as there are lots of things D enjoys and other things he can do. I am happy to call him my house husband. I have no problem that he is better at housework than I am, or that he is better at sewing so is given the task of sewing Scout badges onto Mini's uniform. And, while I don't think D is embarrassed to admit those things to people he knows well, he's clearly still a little wary of saying it to people he doesn't know well.
So, what defines you? Your job, your hobbies, or something else?
5 people like this
4 responses
@Courtlynn (67089)
• United States
21 May 17
I feel the same way you do. But i find it rude when people ask why someone doesn't work. Or when they tell them to get a job. Especially if they don't realy even know the person they are saying it to, to know why they don't have one.
3 people like this
@pumpkinjam (8876)
• United Kingdom
21 May 17
I find it rude too. D wasn't asked, in this instance, why he didn't work but it was obvious from context clues that 'I'm disabled' wasn't going to be taken as an acceptable answer.
As I said, I know it is a common thing to ask someone what their job is but there have been times I've wanted to answer with 'that's none of your business!'
I don't think anyone has the right to ask someone why they don't work or to tell them to get a job (well, with certain exceptions). It's quite possible that a person is already feeling bad about not working, or they might just feel it isn't anyone else's business to know why.
2 people like this
@Courtlynn (67089)
• United States
21 May 17
@pumpkinjam if a parent or partner says it its different and mostly acceptable. But anyone else? Nope. Not to me. It really is noones business if someone has a job or not. Whether they have a real reason to not work or not. Theres no law that says you have to. And no reason to get in others business.
1 person likes this

@Fleura (34927)
• United Kingdom
21 May 17
I SO agree with that! I do have what could be called a profession but I still dislike the way that people are judged on their occupation (and probably, by extension, by how much others think they earn). I used to avoid this problem (and the fact that, when you meet a series of people, it would get awfully tedious to have to answer this question repeatedly) by asking 'What do you do for fun?' That led to some interesting conversations. I like to think that also in some cases, for those people who had to stop and think, and realised that they didn't really have 'fun', it might have made them rethink about their priorities!
1 person likes this
@pumpkinjam (8876)
• United Kingdom
23 May 17
I have people ask me what I do for fun, what my hobbies are. I don't mind them asking, of course, but there are more things I would like to do than things I actually do. My 'social life' consists mainly of watching my children in their activities!
1 person likes this
@pumpkinjam (8876)
• United Kingdom
23 May 17
@Fleura I know. We're in that stage now with my youngest. That kind of awkward stage where he is just beginning to venture off alone but not for long enough for me to actually do anything before he finishes! I looked for hobbies for myself recently when I realised I had odd occasions to myself where I could do something and didn't know what to do! I have a few hobbies but they are lone things to do at home. I am looking into scuba diving. I just need to find a time they offer beginners sessions which isn't also at a time I need to be with the kids or at work!
1 person likes this

@JudyEv (381760)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 May 17
I know what you are saying and it is a great shame that people aren't a bit more attuned to what makes another uncomfortable and just let awkward questions drop. There are still a lot of prejudices and assumptions around, more's the pity.
1 person likes this
@pumpkinjam (8876)
• United Kingdom
23 May 17
That's awesome. It's nice to know you've made a difference. Well, if it's a positive difference! :)





