Does being racist fall under free speech?

@amadeo (111937)
United States
June 4, 2018 11:04am CST
Hello everyone Not sure if I understand the meaning of free speech. So if a person make racist remark.Is this cover under free speech? Is this against the law? Maybe someone here can explained this to me.thank you your view on this. I just added this. Supreme Court rules on narrow grounds for baker who refused to create same-sex couple's wedding cake below what I found online ________________________________________________________________ Possibly, you don't understand the meaning of "free speech". Calling something free speech does not vindicate it. It doesn't make it polite, correct, or even marginally acceptable in civilized society. The sole and only thing it means is that it's not against the law.
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@FayeHazel (40230)
• United States
4 Jun 18
Interesting question. I think what you found online is correct. I would have to agree... I wish that people didn't feel the need to act a certain way, or say certain things, but - then - it is not illegal to do so and I think those people , even if I don't agree - should have that right. As for the case of the baker not making the gay couple's wedding cake - unfortunate as that may be, at least they didn't spend their $ with that baker then.
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@amadeo (111937)
• United States
4 Jun 18
@FayeHazel that is for sure.Religious purpose?
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@louievill (28846)
• Philippines
4 Jun 18
Freedom of speech in a democracy is a right not a privilege so it comes with corresponding responsibilities and there are laws that supercedes that right wherein it could be suspended or taken away as in the right to suffrage or to vote.Sorry but Freedom of speech is not a license to break what should be lawful.
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@louievill (28846)
• Philippines
5 Jun 18
@noni1959 thank you
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@amadeo (111937)
• United States
4 Jun 18
@louieville thank you very much explaining this to me.
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@noni1959 (13009)
• United States
5 Jun 18
This was well put, louievill.
• Preston, England
4 Jun 18
anyone has freedom to speak including bigots as long as it does not incite violence or dishonesty. There are rules, such as not yelling fire in a crowded theatre (unless there is a fire of course). Refusing to make a cake for a gay couple is discrimination, not speech - it denies a public service to someone just because they are gay which is against the law (the denial, not being gay).
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@amadeo (111937)
• United States
4 Jun 18
@arthurchappell thank you
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@Juliaacv (56195)
• Canada
4 Jun 18
I am no expert on this, but I would like to think that sensible thinking and words have to play a part in freedom of speech. Shouldn't respect supersede all else?
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@amadeo (111937)
• United States
4 Jun 18
@Juliaacv thank you Julia for your comment
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• Cape Town, South Africa
5 Jun 18
Absolutely
@just4him (323168)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
4 Jun 18
That's a good definition for free speech. Sometimes I hate it, especially when the person is speaking vulgarities to my face and tells me they have the right to speak such vomit. I think I also have the right not to listen to it, and tell them not to speak that way to me.
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@amadeo (111937)
• United States
4 Jun 18
@just4him yes your right there
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@mlgen1037 (29882)
• Manila, Philippines
4 Jun 18
Hi Alfredo. From my understanding of Freedom, we can do anything, BUT in return we have a responsibility, which includes being respectful of others. Respect begets respect.
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@amadeo (111937)
• United States
4 Jun 18
@migen1037 yes.Many are confused on this.Thank you
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@mlgen1037 (29882)
• Manila, Philippines
5 Jun 18
@amadeo I agree with you, Alfredo. Always a pleasure.
@amadeo (111937)
• United States
5 Jun 18
@mlgen1037 thank you and so nice to see you
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@BelleStarr (61463)
• United States
5 Jun 18
It is a real shame that free speech allows hate speech but it is impossible to have free speech and then curtail it. We of course also have the right not to listen to bigoted and hateful speech.
@amadeo (111937)
• United States
5 Jun 18
@BelleStarr yes it is.a shame.
@amadeo (111937)
• United States
5 Jun 18
@BelleStarr that is for sure there.
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@DianneN (254949)
• United States
5 Jun 18
Being American, we all have the right to free speech, however, we also have the right to ignore it if we choose to do so.
@amadeo (111937)
• United States
5 Jun 18
@DianneN yes your right.
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@DianneN (254949)
• United States
6 Jun 18
@amadeo Thanks.
@dwstory (1276)
• Roseburg, Oregon
5 Jun 18
Free speech is fine but at the same time you should not hurt someones feeling. That is not right at all.
@amadeo (111937)
• United States
5 Jun 18
@dwstory yep.Most of us know this.
@RubyHawk (99367)
• Atlanta, Georgia
4 Jun 18
We all have the right to free speech but that doesn't mean we don't have to pay for insults. You can say demeaning things to your boss but he can fire you. You can make racist remarks but you can be sued. I think the Supreme Court made a bad mistake on this one.I think if we run a business for the people that should be everyone regardless of gender, religion ,creed or color.
@amadeo (111937)
• United States
4 Jun 18
@RubyHawk yes and very well said there.
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@RubyHawk (99367)
• Atlanta, Georgia
5 Jun 18
@amadeo We should be one for all and all for one, but that's wishful thinking.
@amadeo (111937)
• United States
5 Jun 18
@RubyHawk yes we should bit not working out that way
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@dgobucks226 (37621)
4 Jun 18
We have a right to speak our minds and dissent from both popular or unpopular opinions. We should not be forced to accept someone's view simply because that group feels they are in the right. We have the power or right to act, speak, or think as one wants without hindrance or restraint. That right separates us from dictatorial regimes. Of course, doing it in a respectful way is best, however some topics become real battlegrounds, and both sides at times resort to violence or try to repress the other's view. This is wrong and should not be tolerated but unfortunately does happen. Personally, I think the word racist gets thrown around far to often today to justify someone's viewpoint. Many times words are taken out of context to fit that person's argument. For a civilized society we have become less and less civil over the past decade...
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@amadeo (111937)
• United States
4 Jun 18
@louievill thank you for the messages there.
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@sh2ker (503)
• Bury, England
4 Jun 18
I personally think free speech is one of the most important things for keeping a democracy. It is easy to go from banning something that is generally disliked to a political party banning all criticism.I also think it makes bad ideas more dangerous.It prevents them being proved wrong in open debate.And pushing the idea underground allows them to argue it must be true as the government is suppressing it because it is a threat to their power.
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@amadeo (111937)
• United States
4 Jun 18
@sh2ker thank you for this.
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@Samrani (164)
5 Jun 18
I guess freedom of speech means what you think can say aloud and there is nothing harm in it. If other person get offended it's also show that they aren't providing you freedom. But to say something to hurt someone is bad
@amadeo (111937)
• United States
5 Jun 18
yes should not hurt anyone.
• Cape Town, South Africa
5 Jun 18
As a mixed race person that hails from a country(South Africa) where free speech was limited for decades allow me to add my 5 cents worth. Free speech is the inherent right of any individual in any country of the world. It is however a right that demands execution with caution as the usage thereof should not curtail other inherent rights such as religious freedoms, life, liberty and personal security etc. It is therefor incumbent on all of us to bear other rights in mind when exercising our self-believed justified rights. In the case of the baker who refused to bake for the gay couple, I personally feel that the US Supreme Court exercised excellent judgment as it basically took both parties (plaintiff & defendant's) sacred rights into consideration and gave neither too much or took away too many from both parties.
@amadeo (111937)
• United States
5 Jun 18
@notewise777 thank you and very nice to meet you
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• Cape Town, South Africa
6 Jun 18
@amadeo Likewise my very level-headed open-minded new friend
@porwest (112717)
• United States
7 Jun 18
Hate speech is indeed protected under the Constitution. It does not mean, however, that there will be no consequences publicly for it. But there IS a double standard. Liberals can get away with hate speech much more easily than conservatives can.