Parents have been conned.......

Spunky is so comfy using Gracie as a pillow, I took this picture in 1994 with a Nikon EM 35mm film camera
@rebelann (54334)
El Paso, Texas
September 10, 2019 10:29pm CST
I just don't get why so many parents think they have to spend thousands of dollars to foot college education for their kids, there is an alternative. The worst part is that kids graduating high school feel college is a must to get a good job and end up with debts that'll take them a life time to repay. Hasn't anyone at the high schools suggested vocational education first so that kids can get a good job first then if they want further education they'll be making enough money to actually pay for it. Check this out: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gracie made such a comfy pillow for Spunky.
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@andriaperry (89773)
• Anniston, Alabama
11 Sep
The problem is they do the college, get in debt for life before life starts and them work at walmart and pubix. I know 2 teachers one English and one History, they say they can`t find a job!
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
11 Sep
It happens to so many people. I got vocational training as a Keypunch Operator and was able to support myself .... I didn't get top pay but that wasn't uncommon in the 70s, most women were underpaid back then regardless of their training or whatnot.
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@JudyEv (170784)
• Bunbury, Australia
11 Sep
Vocational training is pushed in Australia too. It certainly isn't the norm for every high school child to continue on to university.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
11 Sep
Exactly. I doubt I would have done well in an academically based university. And to add a financial burden just for trying seems totally unfair to me.
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@kareng (18193)
• United States
11 Sep
Sadly, I think a lot of kids go to college just for the fun of it and not for an education. I had a full-time job as soon as I graduated from high school and loved my job. I also had a part-time job so I wasn't interested in college at that time because I had no clue what I would want to go in to.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
11 Sep
You're right. I wonder how many 17 or 18 year olds really know what kind of job they want.
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@kareng (18193)
• United States
11 Sep
@rebelann I know I didn't. When we had a college visit day at school (a free day off to visit a local or in-state college), my girlfriend and I hit the mall. Nobody ever found out we didn't go do a visit since nothing had to be signed off on. Pretty dumb move on the school's part. LOL.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
12 Sep
I don't recall anything like that back when I was in school @kareng .... I graduated in 1969.
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@LadyDuck (240308)
• Switzerland
11 Sep
Not all students want to continue until University. Here they incentive apprenticeship for those who do not plant to continue their studies.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
11 Sep
That's smart. From people I've known it seems they push their children into going to college whether they have that incentive or not, it's a matter of prestige I think. I feel sorry for those 17 and 18 year olds who do not have a clue about the working world yet have to decide if they want to try for an academic education or simply get a job in order to support themselves.
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@LadyDuck (240308)
• Switzerland
11 Sep
@rebelann The 17 years old son of my neighbor has decided that he did not want to continue to study. He is now an apprentice in a mechanic company and he is the happiest boy. Here no one pushes their kids to continue to go to college, you can get much better jobs without a college degree now. We have too many white collars, doctors, engineers and so on.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
11 Sep
It's time parents here stopped pushing for that college degree @LadyDuck to me it's usually a waste of time and money.
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@Janet357 (26808)
11 Sep
though it is a choice but you have a point there. finishing college is not always a guarantee you can get a better job.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
11 Sep
Exactly. I've worked with a number of people who could not get jobs in the field they chose in college.
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@Janet357 (26808)
12 Sep
@rebelann actually most educated people are poor money makers. most businessmen did not even finish college.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
12 Sep
I don't think it has anything to do with education @Janet357 it's more likely that only 10% of the overall population actually makes really good money.
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@stringer321 (4312)
• Kiryat Ata, Israel
12 Sep
Studying is also hard, it requires many hours reviewing the material, learn more and practice. If one cannot make it, all of the money is lost. I wish there were easier courses to at least prepare students for studying, less expensive...courses one can learn at the local center in the city...so people will see if they can do it.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
12 Sep
You are correct.
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• Kiryat Ata, Israel
12 Sep
@rebelann have you tried studying ?
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
12 Sep
I did when I was much younger @stringer321 but I'm 70 now and simply read what I want to when I want.
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@CarolDM (40806)
• United States
11 Sep
I agree, this is a great alternative to all the debt.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
12 Sep
I find it shameful that high schools don't spend any time teaching students what they'll need to get a job, at least if they'd do that many students not suited for academics might decide on vocational training instead.
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@CarolDM (40806)
• United States
12 Sep
@rebelann Things are so messed up these days. Kids are going to college without a clue. They should be working for their future.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
12 Sep
That's true. High school doesn't seem to prepare these kids for the real need to support themselves and many seem to think ma n pa will let them live at home all their lives without having to contribute @CarolDM
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@just4him (170755)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
11 Sep
Your picture proves cats and dogs can get along. I went to a technical/vocational college and did my four years through Financial Aid. No debt. I have a degree in Architecture.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
11 Sep
Did you ever get a job as a draftsmen?
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@just4him (170755)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
12 Sep
@rebelann No. By the time I graduated from college, the career was overmanned in the area. I even saw one of my fellow student's working in a gas station.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
12 Sep
That's the sad part of paying for college education @just4him there's no guarantee that it'll be useful to get you a job.
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• United States
14 Sep
This is why I like trade school. One course, one trade and done. None of this years of paying back loans.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
14 Sep
I think a lot of this kind of training could be carried out in High School, most teachers should be capable of determining if a student has academic talents or not, if not they only waste their money on academic schooling.
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• United States
14 Sep
@rebelann Yes I believe that too. It is a total waste if they are not equipped for it.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
15 Sep
@porwest (18296)
• United States
12 Sep
I have never been an advocate of college. But that's because I know how money works and know how to make money. I am the exception to the rule. I never went to college but I am rich. MANY people I know who DID go to college are broke. It's just a farce, the whole thing. Learn about money management and investing and make what you can, and it won't matter how much you make, you CAN be rich. I have done better financially without a college degree than anyone I know WITH one.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
12 Sep
I think that's true of many people ...... ok, maybe they aren't rich per say but they do ok and are happy without that looming debt so many college kids get themselves into.
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@porwest (18296)
• United States
14 Sep
@rebelann That's the worst part. The debt these kids incur. And unfortunately many of them choose majors that don't provide for jobs that actually pay that well. So they are forever stuck in a cycle. Most plumbers make more than school teachers, and plumbers spent far less on their education than school teachers do. Far too much emphasis is placed on a college education these days.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
14 Sep
Exactly @porwest
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@DianneN (127159)
• United States
12 Sep
There are always options instead of college. In my family, college was the only option and then grad school of course. It worked out well for us.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
13 Sep
Not everyone can afford all that and then there are those who aren't academically inclined so it would be a waste of money to go that route.
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@DianneN (127159)
• United States
13 Sep
@rebelann Exactly!
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@Tampa_girl7 (34190)
• United States
12 Sep
Also, do good in school and get scholarships.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
12 Sep
I honestly believe that if a student doesn't make good grades then maybe she/he should go for vocational training instead.
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@Tampa_girl7 (34190)
• United States
12 Sep
@rebelann I agree.
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11 Sep
Hello! i grduated college and i think you are right, i believe there are ways so that kids find out their passion, and make buisness!! i wish that was reality for everybody...too much pressure
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
11 Sep
Yes, too much pressure. It's more important that students be able to support themselves instead of going into debt to go to college.
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11 Sep
@rebelann yes deffinitely
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@RasmaSandra (30699)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
12 Sep
Not bad suggestions but it always happens that kids can't wait to go to college and then wind up in debt. I guess I did the right thing back in the late 1970s and early 1980s I did not go away to any college my mom could not afford that. I went to a college right where I lived in NYC and I also managed to get much additional support due to the fact that my mom was my only provider. When I finished I had not debt and I was glad.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
12 Sep
I went to a business college. I didn't go into debt at all and when I finished I was able to find a job eventually, jobs are never easy to find for those with no experience
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• United States
11 Sep
My daughter didn’t go into debt, she had a job, and my help. She did well ended up in the medical field. There are community colleges that are affordable, a lot depends where you live and what jobs are available.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
12 Sep
Very true. It also depends on a students ambition. Some just are not cut out for academics and shouldn't be pushed to make mom and dad proud by going to college. I'm glad your daughter is the exception. So many doctors and nurses are in debt because of the loans they incurred.
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@Corbin5 (155681)
• United States
11 Sep
High schools really should spend time informing students about vocational education. What a lovely pillow Gracie made.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
12 Sep
I think schools are spending way too much time on athletics instead of actually teaching kids the things they'll need to know when they go job hunting.
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@JESSY3236 (10028)
• United States
11 Sep
When I went to high school, we did have two paths we could take. Although it took many years to go to college.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
11 Sep
I graduated in 1969 and I don't recall a lot of talk about college at my school.
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• China
11 Sep
Here we set store by vocational training and vocational education too.There is no need for every student to go to college,all kinds of talent are needed in our society.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
11 Sep
That is the way it should be, I think too many parents expect too much of their children sometimes.
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@NJChicaa (65494)
• United States
11 Sep
They do suggest vocational but so many parents push for a college education even when their child isn't suited for one.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
11 Sep
I think too many parents pressure their kids way too hard to get a college education.
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@sallypup (32946)
• Moses Lake, Washington
11 Sep
That photo has nailed me with its aw shucks! cuteness. Just a mouth opener. I hear you about the education bit. I messed around in the university dorms and had fun but came out without a way to pay for stuff like food.
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@rebelann (54334)
• El Paso, Texas
11 Sep
Thank you, they were so sweet together. I remember when I got my first job and listening to the older people as they bragged about sending their kids to a university then a couple years later they were complaining about the bills those kids incurred.
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