What was your first thought when...

@TheHorse (238275)
Walnut Creek, California
January 11, 2020 11:33am CST
What was your first thought when you heard about the Boeing 737 that crashed after takeoff from Iran? It came out (in the news) pretty quickly that the plane had been downed by a surface to air missile (or two), and my first (or second) thought was that it was an accidental shoot down by the Iranian military. The evidence seems to suggest that that's what happened, and Iran has finally admitted that they "accidentally" shot down the plane, killing 170 or so passengers and crew. Why did I think the way I thought? Because NOBODY gains, politically, by killing 170 civilians. The next question: How did it happen? How could the Iranian military mistake a Boeing 737 for a military aircraft when it was a regularly scheduled flight? Your thoughts?
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@FourWalls (86583)
• United States
11 Jan 20
Seriously, my thought was “let’s see how long it takes people to blame Trump for this.” Then I thought that Iran didn’t want the US and Russia pissed at them, so they fessed up pretty quickly.
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@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Jan 20
Well, the Iranian statement blames the US, just a touch, for stirring things up over there.
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@CarolDM (203396)
• Nashville, Tennessee
11 Jan 20
I heard last night Iran finally admitted it was their fault. I think they thought it was a US missle perhaps. Crazy that a plane was even allowed to take off.
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@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Jan 20
My assumption is that commercial traffic continued as usual. But I don't know.
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@Aquitaine24 (12000)
• San Jose, California
12 Jan 20
If they did it they s fewer up big time.
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@Aquitaine24 (12000)
• San Jose, California
13 Jan 20
@TheHorse sorry ,autocorrect. They screwed up big time.
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@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Jan 20
Say again?
@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
14 Jan 20
@Aquitaine24 Thanks. It appears that they did. I'll be following the investigation.
@LadyDuck (502204)
• Italy
12 Jan 20
As I heard that Putin was in the area I honestly thought he was behind this. Knowing how much he hates Ukrainians it would have not been a surprise. They already did in the past and it was NOT a mistake.
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@LadyDuck (502204)
• Italy
12 Jan 20
@TheHorse When people fear to be attacked they do not think twice. If I see a drone coming toward my house and I fear that it could bring a bomb, I shoot it down before it reaches my home. The Iraqi airport had been bombed a few days before, may be they feared that Americans were doing the same to their airport.
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@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
14 Jan 20
@LadyDuck I watch airplane crash videos to find out "what happened." I actually learn about "clear communication" (and breakdowns therein) by listening to pilots and air traffic controllers. It's a weird "hobby," but I've used it in my communication (as a psychologist) with kids on the autism spectrum. I would think that the Iranian military could tell a commercial flight from an incoming bomber. But I don't know.
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@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Jan 20
Ah, I hadn't heard that Putin was in the area. At this point, I'm going with the "accidental shoot down" theory. But wouldn't the Iranian military be familiar with the schedule, etc. of local commercial traffic?
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@just4him (323168)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
11 Jan 20
I heard it was an accident. I didn't know it was a civilian plane. Even so, I doubt it was accidental, even if they had nothing to gain. Call me cynical.
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@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Jan 20
I'll be watching the investigation of this one.
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@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Jan 20
@just4him I don't think any government stood to gain by killing 170ish civilians. I think it was an accident. But how could such an accident occur?
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@just4him (323168)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
11 Jan 20
@TheHorse I'm sure I'll any newsfeed come across my computer.
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@porwest (112780)
• United States
12 Jan 20
I kind of suspected from the start that there was something a bit fishy about the whole thing. Not sure WHY Iran did it, and I am not altogether convinced it was an accident. But it's Iran. Nuff said. How in the world would ANYONE think of Iran as trustworthy or civil?
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@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Jan 20
I've never lived in Iran. But I'm convinced that MOST of their people just want peace and safety.
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@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Jan 20
@porwest I'm glad I don't live there.
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@porwest (112780)
• United States
12 Jan 20
@TheHorse Me too. But hopefully you have been paying close attention to what has been happening with the PEOPLE there. Trump has told them, the people, time and time again that he has their back. WE (America) has their back. They have taken to the streets more than a couple times now, and NOW they are taking to the streets once more to call for the ouster of the Ayatollah over the downing of the plane. Trump has given power back to the people of IRAN, and they are not taking that lightly. If they want their lives, if they want peace, they KNOW who is on their side and it is US, not the Ayatollah. Not the horrible regime. Not the horrible corruption. Not the horrible oppression. The fact that Trump exists is allowing an entire nation to rise up and stand up and fight back. And yet here we sit as a nation making him into a monster. He has restored this country, restored our manufacturing, leveled the playing field with trade, taken back the support of Israel, stopped ISIS and crippled the Taliban, and now has allowed the people of Iran to take charge and rise up, stopped China from taking over the people of Hong Kong... And the evil one is Trump? Sorry. It just pisses me off. Wake the eff up people!
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@snowy22315 (208767)
• United States
11 Jan 20
I thought it was a deliberate take down.
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@snowy22315 (208767)
• United States
12 Jan 20
@TheHorse Of course they have sense said they accidentally shot it down...Dumb bunnies
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@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
14 Jan 20
@snowy22315 I'm still trying to figure it all out.
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@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Jan 20
But why? Who benefits from this politically?
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@msdivkar (23356)
• India
11 Jan 20
Finally it has come out for sure that Iranian missile has brought down the civilian plane. I made a first post of it here in mylot. At that time it never occurred to me that something like this could happen. Because no body gains politically, as you rightly pointed out, by such an action. According to me what could have happened is after firing the missiles, the Iranian protective battery must have been expecting retaliatory fire from Americans from Iraq and they must have mistakenly thoght this is one of them. How they must have thought so only God knows. If anybody is to be blamed for the incident, it is war atmosphere that was in the air at thst time. And for that atmosphere US is equally responsible. I on my part feel that there were sufficient reasons for America to declare war on Iran. If they had done so and did what they did would have been justifiable.
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@msdivkar (23356)
• India
12 Jan 20
@TheHorse you are right.
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@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Jan 20
@msdivkar Of course, I fully trust none of them.
@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Jan 20
I will be watching. But different news sources will "spin" the incident differently.
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@Tampa_girl7 (54714)
• United States
11 Jan 20
All I know is that it is heartbreaking . Also, a bad and scary situation.
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@Tampa_girl7 (54714)
• United States
11 Jan 20
@TheHorse we may never know.
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@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Jan 20
@Tampa_girl7 I'm sure more tidbits will come out in the news over the next few weeks.
@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Jan 20
But how did it happen? And why?
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@1creekgirl (44560)
• United States
12 Jan 20
My first thought was it got caught in the barrage of missiles Iran was firing. It was so tragic that those lives were lost. My second thought was that the Democrats will come up with a way to blame our President for it. And sure enough, they did.
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@1creekgirl (44560)
• United States
12 Jan 20
@TheHorse Some said that if President Trump hadn't killed Solimani, Iran wouldn't be firing missiles and the passenger plane wouldn't have been shot down.
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@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Jan 20
@1creekgirl Yeah, I figured some would say that. I hadn't heard of Solimani until his killing. Someone I talked to today (a liberal) said he was a bad bad man. That's all I know.
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@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Jan 20
How did they blame Trump for it? For stirring things up over there?
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
12 Jan 20
Iran has admitted it now. It's just awful how these things happen and so many get killed.
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@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
14 Jan 20
@JudyEv Yeah, that's more or less what's up with the Boeing 737 "max."
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@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Jan 20
You'd think, with modern technology, that such things could be avoided.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
13 Jan 20
@TheHorse It doesn't seem to work that way. Several planes went down because the computer corrupted or whatever and the pilots couldn't override it.
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@LindaOHio (222285)
• United States
11 Jan 20
No one will ever know.
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@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Jan 20
Americans and Canadians are involved in the investigation. Maybe they'll be able to figure out what really happened. I want to know who fired the missiles, and who gave the order to fire the missiles.
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@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Jan 20
@LindaOHio We'll see what comes out. I'll be following.
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@LindaOHio (222285)
• United States
12 Jan 20
@TheHorse That's for sure.
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• Defuniak Springs, Florida
11 Jan 20
We flipped to the news and waited to see what Trump was going to say, and of course had to wait till the next morning.
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@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Jan 20
I haven't seen his latest "tweet" about the incident.
@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Jan 20
@thislittlepennyearns Was it "any good"?
• Defuniak Springs, Florida
11 Jan 20
@TheHorse I dont pay attention to the tweets. I saw his speech the next morning.
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@Nevena83 (66063)
• Serbia
11 Jan 20
I was sure he was shot down.
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@TheHorse (238275)
• Walnut Creek, California
12 Jan 20
Yes, that appears to be confirmed now.
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