H1N1 Vs. Coronavirus

@porwest (112717)
United States
March 22, 2020 3:28pm CST
I guess my aim here is to keep things in a bit of perspective and to also help calm some minds. The news is seeing fit to report this Coronavirus in a way that makes it seem much more nightmarish than it is. People have short attention spans. It just is what it is. And people quickly forget history. People live in the here and now. Between April 2009 to April 2010 it was determined that in the United States alone there were over 60 million reported cases of H1N1. During that one year period 12,469 Americans died from it. The total # of cases so far in the United States of Coronavirus is 38,813 and the total # of deaths is 400. Could we see numbers rise exponentially? Of course we can. But let's keep one thing in mind here. During the H1N1 pandemic which seems far worse in terms of numbers we did not shut down everyday life and the markets did not crash. We did not raid grocery stores and stock up on toilet paper. We simply went about our daily lives and that was it. So what, exactly, makes Coronavirus different? The numbers tell a very different story than what we are seeing in response to THIS from H1N1 to Coronavirus.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html
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@Nevena83 (66063)
• Serbia
23 Mar 20
I'm increasingly confused by the information on this virus.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
24 Mar 20
You are not alone. There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation out there, and of course we are at a point where one news media is trying to best another one, and so things get really out of whack as a result and people walk away more fearful and confused as a result.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
25 Mar 20
@Nevena83 In the end we may learn that. Not sure where I come down on that at the moment, but there was strong suggestion this originated in a biochemical warfare lab in Wuhan.
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@Nevena83 (66063)
• Serbia
24 Mar 20
@porwest All I believe is that the virus was made for a reason.
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@just4him (323168)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
22 Mar 20
Maybe it's because of the H1N1 that we are on lockdown. They don't want to repeat history and see so many die from it like before.
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@just4him (323168)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
22 Mar 20
@porwest We'll have to wait and see.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
23 Mar 20
@just4him That is all we can do. Keep level heads, let this play out, try to keep ourselves as safe as possible, and see what happens. I think there is so much about this sort of thing that really is a bit out of our control. We can only control so much of nature. The rest we just have to ride out and deal with.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
22 Mar 20
No. I think there is something else going on here. Just a hunch.
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@LeaPea2417 (40020)
• Toccoa, Georgia
9 Apr 20
You may think I am nuts, but I think this all to do with keeping Trump from being re elected. Call me a Conspiracy Theorist , my husband thinks I am over reacting , but I really think it.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
10 Apr 20
I am right there with you. I have said many times through this, the dems and the media did not CREATE the virus. They simply saw it as an opportunity. I firmly believe this.
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@NJChicaa (127116)
• United States
22 Mar 20
This is just getting started due to a very late reaction by the federal government. "We only have 15 cases and soon it will be zero." "It will disappear like magic."
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@NJChicaa (127116)
• United States
22 Mar 20
@porwest what I remember is that it was more contagious but not nearly as lethal
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
23 Mar 20
@NJChicaa Maybe in the end it will prove to be, So far it has not been proven to be more lethal. I hope it is not. But I want to wait and let the numbers bear that out before I draw that conclusion. So far the mortality rates seem pretty much the same. H1N1 was 0.98% and Coronavirus is currently under 1% as well. We will have to wait and see.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
22 Mar 20
Do you recall the response by the Obama administration to H1N1? It might tell a very interesting story. Look it up.
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@LindaOHio (222288)
• United States
22 Mar 20
Where was I when 60 million people in the US had H1N1?
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
22 Mar 20
This is a VERY good question. Beware the media. I am trying to tell you. They are shouting fire in a theater when it turns out someone simply lit a match.
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@LindaOHio (222288)
• United States
22 Mar 20
@porwest The media is making this a circus; and I am racking my brain to figure out what the difference is. Lack of readiness? Shortage of supplies and hospital beds? How contagious it is? I don't know.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
23 Mar 20
@LindaOHio Not sure. I have some ideas. But they are rather conspiratorial of course and I have alluded to some of those ideas. Do consider that the mortality rate of Coronavirus so far does not appear to be higher than H1N1. H1N1 was 0.98% and right now Coronavirus is about the same or slightly less. But we won't know the actual number until it's all over and done with.
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@cperry2 (5608)
• Newport, Oregon
23 Mar 20
What makes this coronavirus different is that no one has an immunity to it. Everyone can be infected. The H1N1 was the same when it started. But it was not nearly as infectious. Another difference with this one is the slow start we, the United States, made to mitigate the spread. Instead of attacking it when it arrived our government sat on their hands and said, oh it will pass in a few days (it did not and will not) oh, by summer it will die out, (there is absolutely nothing to back that up, and in fact, the countries in the southern hemisphere, are experiencing spreads of the virus as well so that very much puts into doubt it will die out with warmer temps) I suppose the fact that we still have not instituted full testing everywhere because we have such a severe shortage of testing materials doesn't play into these numbers at all? The facts that you quote are true so far as they have been reported. Most states who are hardest hit have stopped worrying about testing at all and are treating the symptoms. My son, who contracted the virus last week, is not numbered among those in the reports. Why? The doctor's told him that 1) there are too few tests and you are not critical 2) unless there is some dire reason for the test, the treatment for symptoms is the same. 3) The only purpose in testing at this point in his case would be to put a name to what was ailing him. Either way, the doctor says, you have every symptom as far as I am concerned you have the coronavirus and you need to self-isolate (with instructions of what to watch for and when to come to the hospital if things change). The nightmare you would downplay is unfortunately coming. Here is the surgeon general of the US's opinion. With testing ramping up (some three months late I might add) numbers of positives will be skyrocketing, in fact they are already doing so. So if you wish to bury your head in the sand and ignore what the experts are saying, feel free. I will ask that you honor those of us who believe differently by keeping a safe distance for the foreseeable future. I for one will do my best to protect myself and those I love. And I would highly suggest the same to others.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/488974-surgeon-general-on-coronavirus-this-week-its-going-to-get-bad
@marguicha (230334)
• Chile
22 Mar 20
Besides the constant reference of the US (things happen also in the rest of the world), I think that this is by far not the worst pest or infection that HUMANITY has suffered. There is a political and economic gain for some people now and the media are having their hour of fame. I cannot understand why hospitals only treat people with corona virus and let the rest unattended. Such is the case in my country of Leticia, the woman I know and love for 2 decades. I have a friend who has lost his retirement savings that he had in bonds. And the real thing is keep a distance and wash your hands with soap. Not even masks are so important.
@PatZAnthony (14749)
• Charlotte, North Carolina
22 Mar 20
So many have forgotten about H1N1 and much more, or perhaps enjoy the drama. What is it we are not seeing while all these reports are out there? People are hoarding like crazy where we are it seems.
@JohnRoberts (109841)
• Los Angeles, California
22 Mar 20
There are going to be long term severe aftereffects of this lockdown if it goes on much longer starting with lives destroyed financially and yes, deaths as a result that will not be acknowledged as caused by it. Domestic violence has increased. Threat of raw sewage spillages. Medical checkups canceled so a disease like cancer may not be detected in time. A Pandora's Box is opening.
• Rupert, Idaho
23 Mar 20
I am not sure what is different....but I don't remember hearing all of that about that back in those days....really don't know what to say or think anymore!
@Nakitakona (59987)
• Philippines
23 Mar 20
The big difference the mindset and the stupidity of the people.