What I've learnt about arranged marriages

@JudyEv (381837)
Rockingham, Australia
April 6, 2020 6:40pm CST
This is long but sometimes you can’t do a subject justice by cutting a post too short. Feel free to skip to another post. I like to think I’m open-minded and not given to make hasty decisions without knowing a little about the facts but that would not be true, especially when it comes to thinking about arranged marriages. We came head-on with these unions when we went to Nepal. I’ve had to revise my very negative thoughts. We chatted with the young man (30+) at a B&B house, which was attached to an orphanage. The orphanage had been started by his parents. They asked would he like them to find him a wife. He wasn’t going out with anyone so agreed. Wives typically move in with the husband’s family when they marry and are at the bottom of the pecking order. The wife said the first few years were hard but it is obvious that they are now a very strong team. When he married he had to provide about 30 saris for all the little girls at the orphanage but that’s another story. Our host, whose daughter’s wedding we attended, said ideally the two families meet first. Sometimes there is a marriage broker in the picture but not always. He said the parents get to know each other’s views, educational standards and opinions. Then the two young people meet and are allowed as much time as necessary to get to know each other. I'm sure many fall in love at this point. This gentleman’s first daughter had been courted by a fellow Nepali and after about 18 months, the young couple had asked the parents to arrange the marriage. I gather the father would have liked more time and more say in this union although, again, it seems strong. The father’s own wedding had been arranged and he and his wife were very devoted to each other and very happy. We didn’t talk to the young ones quite so much but all were very happy that their parents had the wisdom to choose someone compatible. It was accepted without question. Our host told us that the groom’s parents had not wanted a dowry. They were very well off. He said they said (!!) ‘we only want your daughter’. Everyone we spoke to said that if either of the young couple weren’t happy with the decision, then that was fine and negotiations would begin again. All said that in more remote regions, the outcomes were not always good with young brides being badly treated, and/or bigger dowries being demanded after the wedding. The young girl whose nephew we support had eloped to marry. In fact, we knew about the wedding before her parents. At some point later, she left her husband’s household and went home to Mum but later returned. I can't see arranged weddings working here but they do have their place in some cultures.
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@id_peace (17036)
• Singapore
7 Apr 20
The chinese do that in the past as well. Now it is no longer something that parents do. Singaporeans generally do not arrange marriage these days. I cannot imagine myself having to marry a girl which my mum is really fond of but I dislike with a passion. That is what happen to me some years back when she encourage me to court this girl. I refused.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
7 Apr 20
If you don't like the girl, or she doesn't like you, then that is the end of the matter. You don't have to marry someone you don't like.
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@id_peace (17036)
• Singapore
7 Apr 20
That would be not quite what my mum think. Lucky we do not have any arrange marriage or it is a tragic. I had been a bit harsh on my words actually. I meant I do not dislike the girl but there is no way that I would want to spend the rest of my life with her.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 20
@id_peace I can understand that. Plenty of people are very nice but not suitable as life partners.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
7 Apr 20
It sure wouldn't be for me, but I understand it works for some in other cultures. I have come across a couple ladies in my life who went through arranged marriages in their countries . . . these ladies ended up running away - leaving their countries and families!
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
7 Apr 20
@JudyEv For some, it does work out just fine. I suppose it has to do with the rituals and mind set we are raised with. We can't picture it for ourselves, but for others this is "the way" things are done - that's just the way it is and it's not questioned.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
7 Apr 20
They seem to be the only stories you hear about normally. I'm glad we got to hear about some positive ones.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 20
@much2say And a bit more than being the way things were done as the young ones had no desire to change the system. They all thought it perfectly acceptable.
@louievill (28846)
• Philippines
7 Apr 20
True it works well with other cultures, the only thing I did not like is why the girl's daughter have to be the one to give the dowry, I would never allow anyone to take my daughter and still pay them. Another thing is the girl would be at the mercy of the husband and his parents after the marriage, the situation would be open for abuse.
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@louievill (28846)
• Philippines
7 Apr 20
@JudyEv in old Philippine societies men gave the dowry to the girl's parents, usually land or farm animals, suitors competed to gain special favors from the parents. A great grand aunt of mine was disowned and stripped of all inheritance because she eloped with a very poor man against the wishes of her parents. Such traditions are nor practiced anymore.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 20
@louievill In Nepal and India the girl's parents give the dowry to the groom's parents. Sometimes, after the wedding, they demand more and that is when the abuse starts.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
7 Apr 20
It is open to abuse especially among the poor and less educated. Dowries have been in place a long time. I've no idea what happens now as regards dowries.
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@caopaopao (12395)
• China
7 Apr 20
I know people in my parents' generation were introduced by matchmakers. Nowadays, young people are looking for a partner according to their own ideas.
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@caopaopao (12395)
• China
7 Apr 20
@JudyEv Perhaps arranged marriages will become rarer over the years.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
7 Apr 20
Arranged marriages do seem to be going out of favour but we came across a lot in Nepal.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 20
@caopaopao Perhaps they will.
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@Jessicalynnt (50523)
• Centralia, Missouri
7 Apr 20
I think that in cultures where that's the norm people don't think much about them. It looks like this one was done with ways out for the couple. My parents would have... picked a religious nut for me, so no thanks there.
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• Centralia, Missouri
8 Apr 20
@JudyEv I do get that alot of youngsters have no idea what they really need in their partners.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
9 Apr 20
@Jessicalynnt The thing that surprised me most was how accepting the young people were of the custom. It was like 'But of course. Why wouldn't I want my parents to choose my spouse? They want the best for me. They know me well. They would never want me to marry someone I didn't like.' I was so totally against it when I went there so I was really pleased that people spoke so openly to us about it.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 20
Haha - my parents certainly wouldn't have picked a Catholic for me but here we are - 48 years on and still coping with each other.
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@Hannihar (130150)
• Israel
7 Apr 20
@JudyEv Religious people have arranged marriages here. They meet in a hotel lobby and sit and talk. I cannot remember how many dates they go on and then if they want to go ahead with it the parents meet and discuss things.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 20
So that's very similar.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 20
@Hannihar If things go wrong then it can be very bad for the woman.
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@Hannihar (130150)
• Israel
8 Apr 20
@JudyEv Probably, but, ours do not always turn out good and then the wife has a problem getting a divorce and he tries to get money from her and there is an organization that helps women wanting a divorce.
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@snowy22315 (208768)
• United States
7 Apr 20
I am sure their success rate is as good or better than other types of marriages. It's good they get an "out" if they aren''t happy with the arrangement.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 20
That was what worried me too but I was assured either of the young people were free to 'leave' with no ill-feelings or repercussions.
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@LadyDuck (502204)
• Italy
7 Apr 20
Centuries ago the marriages among Noble families were arranged also in Europe. It was a matter of power more than money. It would not work at all in our days, even the Royals marry who they want now, not listening to their parents and grandparents.
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@LadyDuck (502204)
• Italy
8 Apr 20
@JudyEv I think that in some countries something like this still exist, may be in Africa.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 20
Yes, that's true. Things have changed so much. Alliances were all about power, strengthening kingdoms, etc.
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@DianneN (254949)
• United States
7 Apr 20
I know certain cultures have arranged marriages. Mine is not one of them, thank goodness.
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@DianneN (254949)
• United States
7 Apr 20
@JudyEv I agree.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
7 Apr 20
What works for one culture wouldn't work for another.
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@Deepizzaguy (122070)
• Lake Charles, Louisiana
7 Apr 20
Arranged marriages in America especially among celebrities leads to heart break since this is no privacy among the couple since they are public figures.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
7 Apr 20
Anyone in the public eye is going to have a hard time making a marriage work.
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@Deepizzaguy (122070)
• Lake Charles, Louisiana
7 Apr 20
@JudyEv You are correct.
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@LindaOHio (222285)
• United States
7 Apr 20
Very interesting post. Thanks for the information.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 20
I was keen to know more about it as I always thought it was a terrible thing. I have to admit I was wrong. While I wouldn't want it for myself, I can understand better the thinking behind it now.
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@LindaOHio (222285)
• United States
8 Apr 20
@JudyEv It wouldn't be my cup of tea either!
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• Agra, India
7 Apr 20
Yes ....herein my country a few years back most of the marriages used to be arranged. But now we also see the trend of increasing love marriage
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
7 Apr 20
Times change, don't they?
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• Agra, India
7 Apr 20
@JudyEv yes .and this is what we should acknowledge and understand as we grow
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@CarolDM (203396)
• Nashville, Tennessee
7 Apr 20
Glad we don't have those in the US.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 20
It's all about the culture we're brought up with.
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• India
17 Apr 20
Still arrange marriages work here but they are less popular now
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
17 Apr 20
It seems they might be gradually dying out.
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@marguicha (230334)
• Chile
7 Apr 20
I cannot imagine having an arranged marriage myself. But then, in my own culture, I have met several reasons why people I know have married (even though arranged marriages is not an option). I have met woman who are not well in her parent´s house (for different reasons) or women that want family or children or even a provider.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
7 Apr 20
If you're not used to the idea, then it seems quite a strange idea so I was pleased to be able to talk to these people frankly and to hear their views.
@xFiacre (14784)
• Ireland
7 Apr 20
@judyev I wish some in my family had allowed me to pick a match for them, but that's between you and me!!
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 20
It wouldn't go down well in Western society. I'll keep your secret. I think I could have picked better for someone-who-shan't be named too but don't tell anyone.
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@paigea (36143)
• Canada
7 Apr 20
They have their place when done in a way that everyone has their say. Sometimes it is just helping a couple find each other. I met my husband on an online dating site. Same kind of idea I worked on a First Nations Reserve. One of my co-workers from the reserve had had an arranged marriage, it would have been in the 70s. She was very happy with her marriage. Her children didn't carry on the tradition.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
7 Apr 20
If the families have met and think it's good, it sounds safer than picking up a complete stranger on a dating site. However, I'm really pleased it worked for you. It worked for my nephew too. He and his wife are very happy.
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@DocAndersen (54399)
• United States
7 Apr 20
well the version we have in the US fails over 1/2 the time, so why not arranged marriages!
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Apr 20
You'd think it would have to be at least as good as picking a photo off an online site.
@Starkinds (32737)
• India
7 Apr 20
In my country we have both option marriage love or arrange marriage
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
7 Apr 20
It's good that there are options.