Beyond the black stump

@JudyEv (381837)
Rockingham, Australia
July 20, 2020 10:47pm CST
I wrote about an Australian saying ‘as fit as a Mallee bull’ meaning tough and strong; in good physical condition. Another Australian saying is ‘This side of the black stump’. The black stump is an imaginary point, beyond which the country is regarded as remote or uncivilised. So you might say that a person is the fastest runner this side of the black stump. One story about the origin of the phrase is that, in 1887, a group of surveyors arrived on Astro Station, near Blackall in Queensland and used a blackened tree stump as the base for their measuring equipment. Anything west of Blackall was then considered ‘beyond the black stump’. The photo is of an area in the south-west after a bushfire has gone through.
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@andriaperry (118793)
• Anniston, Alabama
21 Jul 20
Yes, you used the bull one on me.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
21 Jul 20
Yes, you're definitely as fit as a Mallee bull. lol
• India
21 Jul 20
Another good one. Nice to know about it
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
21 Jul 20
Thanks. It's uniquely Australian.
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@LadyDuck (502207)
• Italy
21 Jul 20
This is another interesting saying and it makes sense considering how it started.
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@LadyDuck (502207)
• Italy
21 Jul 20
@JudyEv About the other saying, I searched imagines of the Mallee bull, it looks like a big and strong animal.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
21 Jul 20
There are several versions about the origins but they are all variations on a theme.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Jul 20
@LadyDuck Some of the outback bullocks grow to an incredible size.
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@Tampa_girl7 (54714)
• United States
22 Jul 20
You’ve taught me another new saying.
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@Tampa_girl7 (54714)
• United States
22 Jul 20
@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Jul 20
Haha - but be prepared to have to explain it!!
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@Janet357 (75638)
21 Jul 20
Thanks for this info. I never encountered this phrase in my previous readings.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
21 Jul 20
You'd probably only find it in Australian publications.
@CarolDM (203396)
• Nashville, Tennessee
21 Jul 20
Reminds me of the dirt roads from days gone by.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Jul 20
We have plenty of dirt roads here too.
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@CarolDM (203396)
• Nashville, Tennessee
22 Jul 20
@JudyEv Not many where I live now.
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@snowy22315 (208770)
• United States
21 Jul 20
I have to admit, that one and the bull one are phrases I never heard before. It's funny, I used to have an online friend from the UK who used alot of slang, and I couldn't figure out what he was talking about half the time. It was our joke that we used to use an Australian lady on the site to intrepret. She seemed to have a better idea of the slang than I.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
21 Jul 20
They are both pretty pertinent to Australia but not to anywhere else really.
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@wolfgirl569 (135601)
• Marion, Ohio
21 Jul 20
That one is different.
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@wolfgirl569 (135601)
• Marion, Ohio
22 Jul 20
@JudyEv Not so far. The one might be if I clean the vine off of it
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 Jul 20
No black stumps on your place? :)
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@xFiacre (14784)
• Ireland
21 Jul 20
@judyev We say ‘beyond the pale’ meaning, in Ireland, beyond the reaches, safety and protection of the British authorities in Dublin. The saying also carries within itself the idea that those with the pale are refined and civilised whereas those beyond it are uncouth.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
21 Jul 20
I've heard of something going 'beyond the pale'.
@JESSY3236 (22225)
• United States
22 Jul 20
cool origin of the saying.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
23 Jul 20
There are plenty of black stumps in Australia.
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@Ronrybs (21503)
• London, England
21 Jul 20
That is another interesting thing. No one knows for sure how so many sayings came into being. Course, nobody thinks to write these things down at the time, but how could you know which ones will stay the test of time!
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
21 Jul 20
At the time, these things often don't seem important but for some reason they catch on.
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@dgobucks226 (37621)
24 Jul 20
We just say "strong as bull" in the U.S. Right to the point Guess one does not want to be beyond that black stump, who knows what danger lies there Interesting phrases!
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
25 Jul 20
I guess every culture has its funny sayings.
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@DocAndersen (54399)
• United States
21 Jul 20
wow i love that - i grew up in a part of Indiana that was well beyond the black stump./
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
21 Jul 20
It could be applied to other countries I'm sure.
• Belews Creek, North Carolina
21 Jul 20
I'm familiar with the Beyond the Black Stump thanks to a novel written by Nevil Shute with that title.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
21 Jul 20
I was just wondering about you the other day. Good to see you again. Hope you're well and safe. Nevil Shute wrote some good books.
@maximax8 (31042)
• United Kingdom
21 Jul 20
It is interesting to see how this saying began all those years ago. Sorry about bush fires.
@jstory07 (148720)
• Roseburg, Oregon
21 Jul 20
I had never heard that saying before. I learned something new today.
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@JudyEv (381837)
• Rockingham, Australia
21 Jul 20
This is a good place for learning new things. I've forever coming across something I didn't know before.
@LindaOHio (222285)
• United States
21 Jul 20
Thank you for another interesting post. I've never heard of that saying either.
@aureliah (24687)
• Kenya
22 Jul 20
Thats interesting. I like how the black stump saying started.