Gentleman vs. Gentlewoman

@vandana7 (98823)
India
May 20, 2021 1:32am CST
Why does it become Gentleman vs. lady... And men Gentle? Some perhaps...not all.. You could say not all women qualify as ladies...I agree. I don't. Evil Grin. Anyway, why type Gentle man or woman? Why not man and woman...why additional typing for poor us to ponder over. Using the word Gentle has not really made either men or women gentle...except some and others in some situations.
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@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
20 May 21
The word 'gentle' originally meant 'of the same clan' in Latin (gentilis from gens meaning 'person. people'). Then it acquired the meaning 'of noble birth' and from there it gradually came to have it's current meaning. So a gentleman (or a gentlewoman) doesn't mean that the person is mild-mannered or kind. The clue is that they are all one word. If you say "He is a gentle man" it means something quite different from "He is a gentleman".
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@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
20 May 21
@vandana7 The term 'gentlewoman' has fallen out of use. I can't say why but perhaps it was just too long and cumbersome - the middle sounds of '-tle' and '-wo- are difficult to pronounce together. The origin of 'lady' is interesting. It comes from an old Germanic root, 'hlaf', meaning bread and 'dige meaning 'to knead', so 'hlafdige' means, literally, someone who kneads [dough] or 'bread-maker' - hlaf' still exists when you talk about 'a loaf [of bread]. (Interestingly, the word 'lord' comes from 'hlafward' meaning 'bread-keeper', so the lady of the house made the bread and the lord kept it and, presumably, dealt it out to those who needed it!). So a 'lady' would have once meant any good housewife who made bread for the household and 'lord' meant any goodman who kept the household in food. Don't ask me how 'lady' came to mean specifically someone who would not have made the bread!
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
20 May 21
Ah ..so the space or lack of it says it all. If only the world would accept that meanings change across the period, we would all be so blessed ..no disputes over religion...we could always blame it on changing meanings. LOL. But thanks for clarification. It sure helped to understand about men. My doubt however remains... why are we ladies...why are we not gentlewomen.
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• India
20 May 21
So basically it's "birds of a feather", only for a different species?
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@Fleura (29127)
• United Kingdom
20 May 21
As @owlwings says, it has no relationship to temperament!
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
20 May 21
The prefix automatically gives dignity to the guy. Nobody would use gentleman for a thief or murderer.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
23 May 21
@stapllotik Tell me about it... they spit on the ground...rub the ball against their groin with whatever be the hope for making it smooth.. wear napkins like a monkey's tail..I could go on...still they call it a gentleman's game...even when there are women cricketers. Not gentlemanly, eh...
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• India
20 May 21
@vandana7 Also, what about cricket? Why they call it as a gentleman's game? All other sports do play on the grounds of fairness, respect and sportsman spirit. Then why only cricket is called as the gentleman's game?
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@Sreekala (34312)
• India
20 May 21
If we call some one 'gentle', I think it shows our quality.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
20 May 21
That is facetious...as Pony would say.
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@jstory07 (134441)
• Roseburg, Oregon
20 May 21
Most men and women are anything but gentle.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
20 May 21
Oh I agree with that. It is easier not to be gentle than to be gentle.
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@LadyDuck (458006)
• Switzerland
20 May 21
I am reading the very interesting comment of @owlwings. I never thought the gentle came from Latin "gentilis", but it is exactly the case.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
23 May 21
@LadyDuck True that..
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
20 May 21
Owl really comes up with informative comments, like you do. :)
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@LadyDuck (458006)
• Switzerland
21 May 21
@vandana7 Thank you, when it comes to British words or traditions Owl is the best.
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• India
20 May 21
Haha Nice observations vanny
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
20 May 21
I know...I like tearing the language apart like some tiger is eating flesh.
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• India
21 May 21
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@dpk262006 (58675)
• Delhi, India
20 May 21
You could choose not to call a man gentle man, if you feel like. . I think with the passage of time the word gentle is pre-fixed routinely before man to indicate that he is nice and kind. Ideally speaking it could be added before woman also but such norm is missing.
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@dpk262006 (58675)
• Delhi, India
21 May 21
@vandana7 Yes, it is a kind of discriminatory for a gentle woman like you. Would you like yourself to be called gentle woman?
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
21 May 21
@dpk262006 It would be too verbose, I think. LOL
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
20 May 21
Don't you think it discriminatory and kinda antithesis? Evil Grin.
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@BarBaraPrz (45484)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
20 May 21
You have a point.
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@BarBaraPrz (45484)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
20 May 21
@vandana7 At the end of your nose.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
23 May 21
@BarBaraPrz Oh that point...anything from there will tip into mouth.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
20 May 21
I do?
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• Pamplona, Spain
21 May 21
In Spanish Gentleman would be caballero or even more old fashioned hidalgo but you would never hear a woman being called Caballera or Hidalga just the way it goes. Gentleman is used a lot here out of respect at least that has not gone out of the window.
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• Pamplona, Spain
24 May 21
@vandana7 That is only all too true. Why this why that about us girls? I guess at the moment I say at the moment its the name of the game. It will take a very long time to change but it will change I just wish it would change right now. You should have a Radio Show vanny you sure would have a lot of listeners I mean that.
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• Pamplona, Spain
24 May 21
@vandana7 That is the way things are we always have to look over our shoulder be careful whom we speak to in the sense of men. I married my Spanish guy and I have been bombarded both sides of the ocean about morality and all that stuff. Too long a story but its true.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
24 May 21
Why are we women not respected as much is my feeling. I mean, we cook, we clean, we work, we earn, we dress smartly, we color our hair, we walk on those nasty high heels, dangle bags like slaves, we drive cars - carefully so insurance premiums are lower, we manage budgets better than men, we even brush our teeth and smell all nice...and still the respect goes the men's way. Something is wrong...very wrong.
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@Shavkat (137214)
• Philippines
20 May 21
Perhaps the adjective best describes some men and women in this world.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
20 May 21
Then why is it confined to men even today.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
23 May 21
@Shavkat That sounds like extension of stag party.
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@Shavkat (137214)
• Philippines
21 May 21
@vandana7 Perhaps it was commonly used for men.
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@DianneN (246720)
• United States
21 May 21
Neither word has anything to do with one’s libido. Either you are or you aren’t.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
24 May 21
Ah... now that is an interesting aspect I had not considered...but extremely relevant. Evil Grin.
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@DianneN (246720)
• United States
24 May 21
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@just4him (306113)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
23 May 21
I see you got a good answer to your question from @owlwings.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
27 May 21
I did.
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@Rashnag (30598)
• Surat, India
20 May 21
True indeed. You have made me wonder too. Have a good day. Take care
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
20 May 21
My mind is full of such doubts.
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@Tenshidc (584)
• Philippines
21 May 21
Ladies and gentlemen it sounds better than man and woman, when the speaker its talking in an event.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
24 May 21
I would say genlewomen and gentlemen...surely that sounds better than Ladies and gentlemen?
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@wolfgirl569 (95136)
• Marion, Ohio
20 May 21
It used to refer to status more than anything else.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
20 May 21
The status was lord, not gentleman..I think.
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@LindaOHio (156056)
• United States
20 May 21
Gentlemen is an old word. I think Just an Ordinary Owl explained it best.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
20 May 21
Owl really explained it well. :)
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• Northampton, England
20 May 21
Being a 'lady' id the equivalent of being a gentleman
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
24 May 21
Lady vs. Lord... Gentleman vs. Gentlewoman. We women are denied a word in the dictionary...to what extent are you men gonna keep denying us ..sigh. ..Kidding.