The Real Joe Biden: Abortion

@porwest .......That's big of you.

I actually give you credit for accepting truth. Many on your side can't. Or won't. I will give you a thumbs up for not denying the truth here.

@celticeagle I can hear your sarcasm. But that's okay.

@porwest As always, thank you for your comments. Yes, I do read them.

Of course I agree with his true position as well being that I am pro-life. I think the bigger question is why was this his position until June 20th of 2019 when he changed it while running for president? Beyond that I wonder how many people who voted for him knew his true position? Knew his voting record? The concern I have is that people are going to polls without knowing who or what they are actually voting for, and I think that is a problem. Not to stir the pot, but it also asks another series of questions. Was Trump a liar? The left said he was. Is Joe Biden a liar? I don't know. But when he stood at the podium before the American people and told them he was pro-choice, a position he did not hold until June of 2019, was it a lie or a sudden change of position? And if it was a sudden change of position, what was the foundation for it? Deep rooted belief, or getting elected? At the end of the day does whether or not Joe Biden lied matter to me? No. Not really. I KNOW what his position is. So in that box, when I was making my decision, at least on THIS issue, he got a checkmark in the YES box. Anyone whose position is pro-choice should have had a NO in their box. But I bet if we actually had a checklist... The dems would not have known his true position and would have checked a YES instead. My point in political discussions, that I don't think people fully understand, is that while I am a registered republican and a strong conservative, at the end of the day I am an American first, and so for me the R and the D doesn't matter as much as what the position or policy is. I also do not blindly go to the polls looking for Rs to say yes to. I am not voting party. I am voting policy. I am voting position. And because my vote is very important, as a responsible citizen I am doing my homework before going to the polls. If I do not know the candidates, I have no business casting a vote for or against them.

@LindaOHio I am glad you do. My aim is to never be pushy, but I do sometimes shove a bit. But for good reason. Perks ears up and gets brains working, you know. And sometimes that is necessary.

I do not oppose his position. I am pro-life. As I am looking at how little of a response this post has gotten so far I can only assume the thought amongst the 'peoples of MyLot' is that, "Here he is, at it again. Trying to find some fault in Biden and posting about it." Sometimes I post things like this to voice my opinion, of course. Other times it is a way to illustrate to people I am NOT saying what I say just because it is Biden. I am not saying what I say just because I am a republican. I am not saying what I say just because I DO support or DON'T support a certain politician. I am trying to say, I have a BASIS for any opinion I share. I am trying to say, not everything I share has a BIAS to it. I have said it time and time again. POLICY, POLICY, POLICY. It is all that matters to me. Not the R. Not the D. Not liberal or conservative. Not Biden or Trump or Obama or Clinton or whoever else. POLICY FIRST. Policy ALWAYS. I am trying to illustrate that just because I support Trump DOES NOT mean I support every policy, every word, every action, or that I dismiss any failure. I am trying to illustrate that just because I do not support Biden DOES NOT mean I will not change my position simply to oppose him. How I determine whether or not I support someone is based on a series of checkmarks. The one with the most checkmarks on the positive side for me gets my support. It's that simple. I doubt I will ever be able to get through to anyone though. But it won't stop me from trying, because the one VERY SAD thing missing from most political discussions is HONESTY. And we really need to get that back.

@porwest But he is a liberal and a Democrat. Don't they generally support abortion?

@lovebuglena Generally they do. But there are many democrats who are pro-life while at the same time there are some republicans who are pro-choice. I am a republican who is pro-life but supports Roe v. Wade being upheld for example. Most republicans would like to see Roe v. Wade overturned. For me it comes down to "will the overturning of Roe v. Wade stop people from getting abortions?" Some, yes. Others will be getting them anyway in less than sanitary conditions which could harm more people in general.

No. You understood this post. Joe Biden has been opposed to abortion since his entry into Congress back in 1973. He has not always been "vocal" about it, in other words he has never come right out and said it. He's been very good at "political speak" so to speak. But he has said enough and his voting record clearly indicates it. The funny thing about a post like this, and it's a hidden agenda of mine behind posting it, is that two things have occurred here. 1) People who normally might respond have made the assumption I was going to write something negative about Biden. Which I did not of course. 2) Some of those who might otherwise come in here and tried to set me straight went and did some research they did not do before the election and... Were SHOCKED to learn about Biden's actual stance on abortion, and now do not have the ability to say anything on the matter because despite all the evidence... There is no doubt in my mind that anyone who went to the polls who voted for Biden, had someone asked them whether Joe Biden supported abortion, would have immediately said "Why, yes. Of COURSE he does." Stay tuned. There is more to come. Next up is "How racist is the guy who is not supposed to be a racist?" Of course, that won't be the title. But I think some on the left who cried racist over and over and over again about Trump may be surprised to know about Biden's horrible record on race issues. And again, I don't think anyone who voted for Biden knows his voting record nor his very vocal racist comments over the years. Not even sure why I am going to write it. THEY probably won't read it. But I will do it anyway.

I often take a different stance in such matters. How can I, as a responsible voter, cast my vote without fully understanding what I am voting for or against? The D or the R, to my mind, do not define the person. They can give me a clue as to what they will likely be for or against. But it is not always the case. Just the way I am wired I guess. I will admit to also being a bit of a political junkie. lol That being said, I often look at each candidate with a system of checkmarks. Whoever gets the most checkmarks in the "I agree with that" column gets my vote. It just happens to mostly be republicans. But in this case Joe Biden would have gotten a checkmark in the "I agree with that" column because I too oppose abortion. I too oppose partial birth abortion. I too oppose federal funding for abortion. Although I do also support Roe v. Wade being upheld, and I disagree with Biden that the portion of the Hyde Amendment allowing for federal funding in the case of incest and rape should be struck. The funny thing is I BET most liberals have already read the title and ASSUMED this post is to discredit Biden in some way. Joke is on them. I support Joe Biden on this issue. lol

@porwest Oh don't get me wrong. I looked into many aspects of him and found it was not worth my time. What a joke he is. No leader at all.

@CarolDM The more I look into him, the more I find him abhorrent.