Shootings Around Us

@RubyHawk (99425)
Atlanta, Georgia
June 1, 2022 12:54pm CST
Lately we have discussed shootings in and around our areas. This happened several years ago and I found my description of the shooting in my documents. This shooting probably happened about 2016. Shootings at Kennesaw We have had other incidents in our area, but imagine our surprise when my better half turned on the TV news a couple of days ago and heard of a mass shooting at the Fedex facility in Kennesaw, a small town a few miles north of us. We can never know what goes on in a person's mind regardless of how well we think we know them. A young man, just nineteen years old, who was well known in Kennesaw and Acworth had opened fire on his co-workers with a shotgun. His name was Geddy Kramer and when he stopped shooting his co-workers he put the shotgun to his head and killed himself. A co worker, Liza Aiken told police that Kramer had bullets strapped to his chest like Rambo. A call went out from the facility for help and the police arrived to find six people shot, two critically and Kramer dead. He had also left Molotov cocktails distributed all over the plant, but they were found before there were any explosions. The most seriously wounded was the guard who was just back from Afghanistan, he was not expected to live, but his wife has announced his chances have improved after several surgeries. Everyone in the Acworth neighborhood where they live were astounded. The Kramer family is well thought of. The father knew of no reason for the shooting. He said the family were shocked and devastated by the son's actions. Neighbors said the young man was a sweet kid. He was often out walking his dog and mowing the lawn. The parents were divorced in 2012 and had joint custody of the children who currently were living with the father. This goes to show there is no way to determine who might possible become a mass murderer.
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@kaylachan (57274)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
1 Jun 22
That's true. When they mentioned some of the school shootings as of late, they were done by kids, with good grades and fairly quiet. The last type you'd expect.
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@RubyHawk (99425)
• Atlanta, Georgia
1 Jun 22
I think possibly sensitive kids can be bullied at school and tormented until they lose all prospective. It’s usually the quiet ones.
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@kaylachan (57274)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
1 Jun 22
@RubyHawk That's what I've always heard, too. If you're being bullied, you tend to fear speaking out, because it might make it worse.
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@RubyHawk (99425)
• Atlanta, Georgia
1 Jun 22
@kaylachan It’s horrible to think that youngsters can be-so bullied they’d do these shootings. Schoolteachers and those with authority should setup programs in schools to prevent bullying. That’s the only way to stop it.
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@RebeccasFarm (86392)
• United States
2 Jun 22
No there really is not a way to know that is right Ruby I agree.
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• United States
2 Jun 22
@RubyHawk Yes it sure is
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@RubyHawk (99425)
• Atlanta, Georgia
2 Jun 22
And often it’s the most unlikely person you can think of.
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@RubyHawk (99425)
• Atlanta, Georgia
2 Jun 22
@RebeccasFarm There’s no safety anywhere.
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@crossbones27 (48395)
• Mojave, California
13 Jun 22
Most seems random in a sense, sure there is grievance's with like that employees or just societal institutions but they for most part they just shoot anyone they see first once they decide what place they want to shoot up. Such a sad world we made and I get they may be mentally unstable but we do so many things to create that mentality just by being so mean and rude to one another.
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• Mojave, California
13 Jun 22
@RubyHawk Amen and I get so mad when you can see congressional people being even bigger bullies with their power. See it all the time too. That carries over to every type of leader in very institution from government to corporate world, I need to behave like this to stay in power, no, no you really do not. Then they actually teach that type of behavior. At least in Marines, they all Masculine, but they teach tact and they go you better learn that if you want to go anywhere in this branch. Do not be scared but be very respectful of how you talk to your superiors as they will try to be respectful to you. They appreciate why you are here. Seems like such a small thing but its very big.
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@RubyHawk (99425)
• Atlanta, Georgia
13 Jun 22
Being mistreated and bullied plays a big part in the shootings in my opinion. That’s why I’m open to schools taking part in stopping it. Classes at school to prevent bullying would be a good start. I wish those with authority in schools would give serious thought to forging ahead on that idea.
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@RubyHawk (99425)
• Atlanta, Georgia
13 Jun 22
@crossbones27 You’re right bullies are everywhere from congress to military and on down which is why I think it would be to everyone’s advantage to have classes in school to prevent bullying. Not allowing it in school might help break the cycle and could prevent many shootings. Teach children while they’re young and we’d live in a better world.
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@kanuck1 (4394)
4 Jul 22
Yes, we never know what is going on in the mind and heart of anyone and anyone can suddenly become a loose cannon. I have noticed where I live that there are more shootings than ever before. At one time it was big news when there was a shooting. These days, it is a part of life.
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@kanuck1 (4394)
9 Jul 22
@RubyHawk And even as we were typing our posts there were shootings happening. So very sad!
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@RubyHawk (99425)
• Atlanta, Georgia
9 Jul 22
@kanuck1 It is sad and it happens somewhere every day.
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@RubyHawk (99425)
• Atlanta, Georgia
4 Jul 22
Just about every day we read about shootings in newspapers and see it on TV.
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@jobelbojel (34729)
• Philippines
3 Jun 22
What is happening to the world, to the people on earth? Few weeks ago I also learned that about 11 kids or more than were killed.
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@jobelbojel (34729)
• Philippines
3 Jun 22
@RubyHawk Something must be done.
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@RubyHawk (99425)
• Atlanta, Georgia
3 Jun 22
@jobelbojel Schools should set up programs to stop bullying.
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@RubyHawk (99425)
• Atlanta, Georgia
3 Jun 22
We hear it way too often. Something must be done.
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@moffittjc (118306)
• Gainesville, Florida
11 Jun 22
What I find troubling is how many young people have mental health issues these days. At such young ages too. I work with mostly young people since I live in a major university town, and I'm astounded at the number of them that are having such trouble with their mental health. At that age I was having fun and living a carefree life, and was excited that my best years were still ahead of me. It's not so much the case with our young people these days. And that really worries me.
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@moffittjc (118306)
• Gainesville, Florida
12 Jun 22
@RubyHawk That's what I see in so many young people, great levels of anxiety. I wonder how much of it is due to their lack of social skills (they're glued to their phones and computers all day instead of actually interacting with live human beings), and the sense of hopelessness they feel about the world around them. All they've heard from the time they were born is that this planet is headed for an environmental catastrophe. We're running out of oil, clean air, and clean water, and then add on top of that wars and other disasters and it just gives them no reason for hope. They can't afford college, they can't afford to buy a house, jobs pay pitiful wages, etc. I see the good in things, but I grew up in a time of mostly peace and economic prosperity, so my outlook on the future is a little different from what kids growing up today see. There's no one specific thing, but so many small things that add up to create the burden these young people feel and experience today.
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@RubyHawk (99425)
• Atlanta, Georgia
11 Jun 22
it’s a big worry. I know two young ladies that have mental issues. They both struggle. One teenager in my family has problems.but refuses to take medication. She’s struggling trying to overcome it on her own. She’s doing better right now but any little thing causes her great anxiety.
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@RubyHawk (99425)
• Atlanta, Georgia
12 Jun 22
@moffittjc it’s very possible. Children of today are not like yesterday’s children. Children are-more privileged. Parents aren’t as strict and they expect more from children. It hasn’t been that long since our young men were fighting a war. Then all the catastrophe today. It all adds up but I still think schools should have programs in place to stop bullying. Many changes need to be made but as a start I believe it’s important It would be so easy to have all children attend a no bullying class, Schools could stop bullying in its tracks.
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@snowy22315 (169492)
• United States
5 Jun 22
It is indeed hard to determine, but it seems in most cases they post their intentions online. Social media needs to get serious about reporting such things. It seems like everyday, there is something going on.
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@RubyHawk (99425)
• Atlanta, Georgia
5 Jun 22
I agree. Social media should be responsible for content.
• China
2 Jun 22
I have watched the news of shooting recently happened in a primary school over there.It came as a shock to me !
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@RubyHawk (99425)
• Atlanta, Georgia
2 Jun 22
It’s shocking to me. I can’t understand but I do believe most of it comes from bullying.
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@GreatMartin (23677)
• Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
3 Jun 22
But politicians don't care---they would rather take money from the NRA than save a kid's life!! Sorry an automatic is NOT covered under the second amendment!! ARGH!!!!
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@RubyHawk (99425)
• Atlanta, Georgia
3 Jun 22
You nailed it. The NRA have the politicians in their pocket. It’s money. Money’s the root of all evil so the saying goes.
@RasmaSandra (73139)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
4 Jun 22
AI keep praying for everyone, I realized if I had continued living in NYC with all the subway shooting I would have to find another way to get around because I certainly would never want to ride the subway again
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@RubyHawk (99425)
• Atlanta, Georgia
4 Jun 22
I can understand that. It’s dangerous to be in crowds with so much shooting going on.
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• Midland, Michigan
4 Jun 22
It's almost like everyone should see a counselor, psycologist, or psychiatrist in a yearly basis. But that wouldn't do much good if the patient wasn't willing to talk.
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• Midland, Michigan
8 Jun 22
@RubyHawk you would think teachers see it happening. The problem is not everyone, kids I mean are bothered by the actions of their classmates. They also don't understand how it will affect their psyche long term.
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@RubyHawk (99425)
• Atlanta, Georgia
8 Jun 22
@MarshaMusselman In my opinion every school should have classes to teach children about bullying and how to prevent it. Schools must take responsibility. an do everything possible to prevent bullying.
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@RubyHawk (99425)
• Atlanta, Georgia
4 Jun 22
I could be wrong but I think most of the shootings are caused by bullying. Bullied youngsters can take it until they go berserk and start shooting.
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@TheHorse (205018)
• Walnut Creek, California
11 Jun 22
I call it the "randomness factor."
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@RubyHawk (99425)
• Atlanta, Georgia
12 Jun 22
That’s exactly what it is. You never know who will be next.
@nela13 (55688)
• Portugal
6 Jun 22
You're right, it is impossible to know.
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@RubyHawk (99425)
• Atlanta, Georgia
6 Jun 22
It’s usually the person least suspected.
@sinari (4997)
• Indonesia
6 Jun 22
Yes, I have read the news too, about the recent mass shootings that have occurred in America. That is a young man who has shot his grandmother, and shot school children. Very terrible. Lately, there are indeed many people who experience stress or depression, so they cannot think clearly in dealing with problems in their lives, or in controlling their emotions. Hopefully this mass shooting will not happen again in the future.
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@RubyHawk (99425)
• Atlanta, Georgia
6 Jun 22
I hope not but I’m afraid it will happen again and again.
@AmbiePam (85199)
• United States
1 Jun 22
All we can bet on with shooters is that they will be men, with few exceptions. Why are these men doing this?
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@RubyHawk (99425)
• Atlanta, Georgia
1 Jun 22
I don’t know why. It’s my opinion that most school shootings are caused by bully’s taunting weaker students.
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@jstory07 (134195)
• Roseburg, Oregon
5 Jun 22
That is sad and I hope they figure out why he killed those people and than shoot himself.
@mom210 (9039)
• United States
6 Jun 22
I don't think it is just shootings although they seem to get most of the attention. It is the stress of living in today, higher prices, fear and so on. We had a situation here, where somebody threw a lady out of a car traveling along the highway. why on earth? I mean if your are ticked at her, just pull over at least, make her walk home. But people are stressed and getting meaner.
@MALUSE (69416)
• Germany
1 Jun 22
Something like this hardly ever happens in Germany whereas one hears or reads about such catastrophes happening in the USA quite often. Not many people own a weapon here. Only hunters or sportsmen can own one. They need a license.
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@JudyEv (325102)
• Rockingham, Australia
2 Jun 22
People who do this leave so many questions behind as to why they went down this path. His family would be forever questioning why he did this.
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@RubyHawk (99425)
• Atlanta, Georgia
2 Jun 22
His family must have been in the dark just as much as everyone else. They’ll never know.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
2 Jun 22
I agree with you. It is virtually impossible to prevent or predict these things. Unfortunately all we can do is deal with the impact of it all. As for the causes, however, I think they are many, and no one really ever wants to talk about them. Most people think laws are the answer, and the reality is that laws do not prevent anything.