The Zoom Lesson

@porwest (112717)
United States
February 10, 2023 7:09am CST
I talk about this all the time when I talk about investing in stocks. Don't buy trends. Buy companies. Zoom is not the only example of this. It's just a recent example of this. FitBit was another one not so long ago. So was Peloton. These are companies that become very popular and ride a wave for a variety of reasons, but also eventually fall out of favor because either the circumstances around why they were successful no longer exists or because the newness or uniqueness of the products wavers. It seems like a no-brainer to say "don't invest in things or individual products," but rather invest in businesses who do good, solid business, who sell things that have lasting value. But people do this all the time. They see a company going bezerk and they want to get onboard, failing to look deeper into what the company is actually doing—or what they can do later. In other words, be able to identify when something is real and when something is just fancy, new or exciting. Trendy. Beware who is most likely a one-trick-pony. Take IBM back in the day, or even a company like Apple. What they brought to the table was something fancy, new and exciting. But in a different way than something like a FitBit or a visual communications port or an exercise machine. These companies had products that would change the way we did things and had an actual, definable purpose. You knew that the products they were selling would not simply go away. At the same time, understanding the vision and ingenuity of the company behind the products is also very important to note. IBM, for example, did not become the dominant computer maker. But it did other things. It could do other things. It had the ability to be innovative and creative and to be able to adapt itself to whatever market changes were occuring—and even if it would not be successful in the computer market itself, it would be able to find a way to be complementary to the computer market in some useful and profitable way. Invest in things that are needed, useful, resourceful, that have purpose and in companies that have the ability to recognize trends and busts and be able to constantly reinvent themselves with changing interests, appetites, or markets. Kodak got it wrong. Kmart got it wrong. Blockbuster got it wrong. AOL got it wrong. The companies and businesses that will be your best investments will be ones who are ahead of the curve and in a constant forward-thinking mode. Always looking to the future and not only relying on the present.
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@ifa225 (14468)
• Indonesia
10 Feb 23
But most people fall to that 'monkey business'
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
10 Feb 23
Yes. They do. Which is why I bring it up. Just to have people kind of keep it in the back of their mind. The bottom line is this, and there just wasn't enough space within the post to elaborate more, that we CAN still invest in trendy things. But I caution the word "invest," because it suggests a more longer term goal. Short term things in the market have a different name we use. Speculation. Speculating is NOT investing. There is a big difference between the two things. And many times speculation is a shorter term thing with a different parameter of goals. Let's say I see a company like FitBit or Peloton or Zoom soaring to the moon. I might want to get onboard. But I only want to make money, not actually "invest" in the company or product. I go in with a predetermined goal in mind. Let's say it's 15% or 30% or whatever the number is. I get in and I get out. I am not worried about what the company does later. Only in what it does today. And because I am not "investing," but rather only "speculating," it's just a way to make a quick buck with the direct understanding that I am not making any long term commitments to the company or the product, just in the short term gain I want to make. The people who get into trouble are the ones who think there's more money to be had and they sit on it too long until the plug gets pulled and they lose it all. That's why you set a specific percentage and as soon as you hit it, you sell.
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@ifa225 (14468)
• Indonesia
10 Feb 23
@porwest good point of view. I make an important note here, [b][/b]invest in the trend only for a short term
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
11 Feb 23
@ifa225 Yes. That would be the idea. Have a set plan, take your money and run, and don't worry about what happens to the stock later. Just know you took your gains—AND then you put the gains into something more long term so that THAT money continues to grow along with all the rest.
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@Kandae11 (57233)
10 Feb 23
Very useful information.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
10 Feb 23
I am just fascinated by all things money and all things business. It may be a sickness even. lol
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@RebeccasFarm (91299)
• United States
10 Feb 23
Yes things have changed for Zoom.
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• United States
11 Feb 23
@porwest Yes one trick indeed.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
10 Feb 23
They (Zoom) simply went with the Zoom boom, but failed to understand there may be a reason for the boom that may not exist in the future that could change things. It would have been the time, while you already had your customers, to innovate in a way that made Zoom more valuable even when it was not needed in the same way it had been during the pandemic. I think they missed an opportunity, and to me, it signals they might be that one-trick-pony.
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@Fleura (34927)
• United Kingdom
10 Feb 23
I completely agree, although sometimes it's not so easy to know in advance what is only a flash in the pan. Zoom seems to be doing ok though; latest news says the stock price has gone up!
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
11 Feb 23
The stock is down 52% from a year ago. Even if it upticks, it has a long way to go to get back to where it was. They may still be looking into some new ideas. But ultimately I fear it may be a one-trick-pony and their product is not something that can't easily be copied by someone else.
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@LindaOHio (222222)
• United States
11 Feb 23
There are so many "If only I would have purchased their stocks" out there. We'd all be millionaires.
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@LindaOHio (222222)
• United States
14 Feb 23
@porwest Good idea. Microsoft, IBM, Amazon, Facebook....to name a few.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
13 Feb 23
I actually have thought about doing a little series on those; The Ones That Got Away. lol
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
17 Feb 23
@LindaOHio I made a ton of money on Facebook. But I missed out on IBM (way before my time) and Microsoft. When Amazon IPOd I was deep into investing, but I thought it was just a bookstore so I never invested. I do own it now though and have for several years. But I have never made as much money as I could have had I been an early investor. I do not currently own Facebook (Meta now) and have not for several years.
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@manikarnika (3301)
• India
11 Feb 23
I am not always interested in stocks
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• India
22 Feb 23
@porwest Yeah...But i am not interested to become poor after investing in stocks
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
22 Feb 23
@manikarnika The best way to remain poor or be poor is to NOT invest in stocks. Go through the Forbes Richest list...nearly half of them made their money through investments. lol. The key is in knowing HOW to invest and in taking the time to learn. A great book to read is The Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
18 Feb 23
Then you must have quite a lot more interest in never becoming rich and working the rest of your life.