I'm no dog trainer, but . . .

@much2say (57760)
Los Angeles, California
May 20, 2023 12:48pm CST
I know "someone" with what she calls a nervous dog. If we make a sudden movement, like standing up after sitting , this dog will bark at you like nuts. And this "someone" will not control the dog, but instead yell at the person "I told you not to make any sudden movements!" . I witnessed the same barking again, but this time "someone" handed treats to the person to give to the dog. I'm no dog trainer, but I would think this rewards and reinforces the dog to bark in those situations. What do you think? I think the dog will keep barking .
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@DaddyEvil (174208)
• United States
20 May 23
The first time I got yelled at because someone wouldn't control their dog is the last time I'd be around the dog. The human could come to my house but the dog would have to stay home.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
20 May 23
The funny thing is the dog apparently can't even be left at home with the husband . . . the dog barks at him too . There are other issues too . . . the dog likes "fluffy" things, so he'll go around taking whatever he wants around a person's house - like house slippers or jumping on a bed to drag off pajamas. I heard he'll bite off carpet. I don't think that dog understands "no". Well if you call it lucky, we have fur allergies anyway, so no dog is allowed to enter our house .
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@DaddyEvil (174208)
• United States
21 May 23
@much2say The human and the dog need to go to obedience school and BOTH be trained how to teach a dog properly. Yup! Me, too.
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@JudyEv (381760)
• Rockingham, Australia
21 May 23
@much2say What a spoiled brat of a dog. Where is the pleasure in having a dog like that?
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@snowy22315 (208746)
• United States
20 May 23
Yes, It isn't rocket science to know that refinforces the barking. It sounds like this person hasn't had a dog before. Maybe show her this dicussion. She could get a trainer. It isn't OK to teach the dog, the world is going to tiptoe around them, and reward them for inappropriate behavior
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@snowy22315 (208746)
• United States
21 May 23
@much2say I do because Nico is like that as well. When it comes to breakfast, I simply must be close by Umm, who exactly does he think is going to steal his food?
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
21 May 23
@snowy22315 Ah, you are guarding Nico's food . I don't know why this dog needs her to be near to eat . . . but he seems to be around her all the time or he acts kinda insecure.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
20 May 23
I am thinking she thinks giving the dog a treat like that will make the dog feel better about the person thus stop barking - um, it doesn't work that way. She had a dog before, but yah, that was one was quite spoiled too (and nervous). Can you believe that dog will not eat his food unless she stands there to watch him??
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@AmbiePam (120533)
• United States
20 May 23
I'd agree with you. Is the owner of the dog a nervous person too? I wondered since dogs tend to take on traits of their owners.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
20 May 23
It's quite possible, though she'd never admit it . She does think she is patient with animals, but well, doing it that way will never teach her dog to behave.
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@AmbiePam (120533)
• United States
20 May 23
@much2say Do you know who Jim Parsons is? He played Sheldon on "The Big Bang Theory". I remember watching him do an interview in which he related that he has to give his dog prescription anxiety medication. I was thinking, wow...
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
21 May 23
@AmbiePam I do know "Sheldon" - woh, anxiety meds for dogs? This dog gets "nervous", but I am thinking because his daily lifestyle molds him this way. At home it's just the owner and husband - the dog is sheltered because the owner keeps him in his safe shell . . . so going outside home makes him super anxious.
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@LadyDuck (502148)
• Italy
21 May 23
Dogs must be trained, like children. A new neighbor had a dog who barked all the time. I told her to make him stop as he annoyed all the neighborhood... after a week he still barked, I called the office of the Mayor. Now they keep the dog inside and they are teaching him not to bark, as they have a new born baby. I TOLD THEM!
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
28 May 23
Little ones need guidance - even dogs. Oh, your neighbors have a bigger task to make their dog stop barking now . . . it is what they should have done much earlier, in the first place. But of course now they do it for their baby . . . they did not think of how it affects the neighborhood .
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
31 May 23
@LadyDuck Right. It would not be fair to the neighbors who have to deal with a constantly yapping dog. I don't understand how some dogs can bark so much . . . you would think they would eventually lose their voice .
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@LadyDuck (502148)
• Italy
28 May 23
@much2say At least now they know and I am very glad of this. I told them to imagine if all the neighbors let their dogs bark all the day. They are not the only ones to have a dog and their dog was the only one annoying.
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@mom210 (9170)
• United States
20 May 23
Dogs are just like children, they have to be taught how to behave. She should teach the dog enough is enough, a stop word would be good, something like, just telling him to lay down or enough butch, something, so he knows he did well, but now needs to be done. The dog barking is probably him protecting her, now she just needs to teach him that's enough thank you doggie.Of course these days, people don't even make their children mind, so why would they make their dogs. I'm probably expecting to much.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
21 May 23
Exactly. Even dogs need to understand boundaries. If they don't, they will do what they will do - and that will most likely not be a good thing. Teaching discipline is not abuse . . . this owner thinks she has a lot of patience with animals . . . but well, to be "too nice" does not help the dog either. The dog may be the nervous type, but I think because she feeds into his nervousness . . . the dog thinks he runs the show because the owner goes with what the dog wants. He doesn't deal with other people or situations much in his own home - he is safe and unbothered . . . so other people/movements must freak him out. Oh gosh, and parenting kids in this generation is a whole 'nother thing . . . don't get me started .
@CarolDM (203396)
• Nashville, Tennessee
20 May 23
Animals pick up on our feelings so often. If we are anxious, so are they.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
21 May 23
@CarolDM Now that I think of it, maybe our parakeet is like me more than I realize .
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
20 May 23
Interestingly, her last dog had a different personality, but he was also on the nervous side in the same way. Hmmm, yah, maybe that says something about "her".
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@CarolDM (203396)
• Nashville, Tennessee
20 May 23
@much2say I would have to agree with you. It has happened to me many times.
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@celticeagle (189793)
• Boise, Idaho
22 May 23
I agree with you totally. Animals need to be treated a lot like little kids. Ignore the negative and reward positive behavior. Some people shouldn't have animals. I agree with DE.
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@celticeagle (189793)
• Boise, Idaho
25 May 23
@much2say ........Yep. They need to learn what is expected.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
28 May 23
@celticeagle Exactly!
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
24 May 23
Right. They need guidance about these things (pets or kids) . . . they can't just do whatever they want especially if they are going to be out in the world with others!
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@Jenaisle (16568)
• Philippines
22 May 23
I'm no expert with dogs, but repeated training, like saying soothing words until it stops barking could be one way, or the dog may have to be brought somewhere, where the dog does not have to bark?
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@Jenaisle (16568)
• Philippines
24 May 23
@much2say It's sad that the dog even barks at the husband. He should be able to know all the residents of the household so he won't bark at them. If he does, then he is not a good dog.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
26 May 23
@Jenaisle I guess the husband works and isn't around a lot, so all the care has been left to the wife. She probably controlled everything - and they did not allow the dog to get familiar with him early on. I have a feeling the dog is on his own in the home (the dog likes to hang out under a bed . . . so she let's him stay in his comfort zone all he wants). He was probably unintentionally conditioned this way . . . and now this is the way they live .
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
24 May 23
The dog can bark all he wants in his own home - and apparently he does anyway (the dog barks at the owner's husband . . . the husband cannot feel ease even in his own home ). I doubt they will take the dog to training . . . the owner thinks she knows what she's doing and that she's very patient - hmmmm.
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• China
21 May 23
It is not the dog but the "someone" that has problem.Usually a dog does as its owner likes.It was rather high-handed for her to yell at the person not to make any sudden movements 1
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
21 May 23
I believe so too. It's ridiculous. I can't even imagine this in their own household . . . apparently this dog does not care for the owner's husband and will bark at him in the same way. In fact, the dog will not even eat any food given by the husband - it must be from the owner and she must stand there to watch. For a while, there was a habit that he would not eat unless he was handfed. The dog should wear a crown, for he is the king of his domain .
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• China
22 May 23
@much2say The dog's behavor is abnomal !He is like a spoiled kid ,apparently his owner conditioned him to do that way from when he was a puppy .I can't see the point of having such a dog.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
26 May 23
@changjiangzhibin89 There are many other terrible habits the dog has, all because the owner thinks she has patience to let the dog learn in his own time. I think they got him when he was a year old . . . it is believed he may have been living in the streets. But it has been over a year since he came to live with them, so by now he should have learned some discipline.
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@rebelann (117199)
• El Paso, Texas
20 May 23
I think you're right. I do know that if a dog doesn't know you it's likely to bark at you so it's up to the owner to try to control the dog, I know I would.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
25 May 23
@rebelann Oh wow, that poor dog must've been so traumatized . The trust thing can be so hard for dogs but surely he is in a good home with your friends plus with peers. This dog, they don't know the history of, but they suspect he had been living in the streets.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
21 May 23
This dog barks at her husband at home in this same manner . Apparently the husband can't even feed the dog - the dog won't eat unless she feeds him . The dog is just startled all the time . . . I think things are kept quiet in the home - he doesn't need to deal with anyone else (I think he stays under a bed a lot) and gets free reign. But yah, if he goes to someone else's home, he better be disciplined!
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@rebelann (117199)
• El Paso, Texas
22 May 23
A friend of mine adopted a dalmatian mix that spent his first couple years being brutally mistreated and is still not that trustful of people plus it's been over 3 years that my friends have had him and he still barks at Hank now and again. My friends have 4 dogs.
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@RebeccasFarm (91299)
• United States
21 May 23
Yes there is a guy here that does this with his dog..it is intolerable..the dog pulls him all over the place. He needs to man up.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
21 May 23
Right - the dog needs to be controlled, not the other way around!!
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@Tampa_girl7 (54714)
• United States
23 May 23
I believe that you are correct.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
24 May 23
It's kinda common sense, right ? Too bad te owner doesn't get this.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
24 May 23
@Tampa_girl7 Ain't that the truth!!
@Tampa_girl7 (54714)
• United States
24 May 23
@much2say unfortunately not everyone has common sense.
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@JudyEv (381760)
• Rockingham, Australia
21 May 23
This sounds completely wrong to me. I'd be taking it to a trainer or doing something about it - like giving it away.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
21 May 23
It's ridiculous, right? The dog rules . The owner claims to be so patient and knowledgeable about dogs, but well, it shows in the dog that he lacks discipline for sure.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
26 May 23
@JudyEv Exactly. Having boundaries is good - but this dog has no concept of it. Yep - the dog thinks he is king and he controls his servants !
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@JudyEv (381760)
• Rockingham, Australia
22 May 23
@much2say Animals do best when they know the limits and, with dogs, they need to have a leader for their 'pack'. This dog is taking on that role for himself it seems.
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@RubyHawk (99367)
• Atlanta, Georgia
21 May 23
I don’t know much about dog training but if I had a dog that barked at someone in my home , I’d scold the dog and put him in another room.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
21 May 23
Even a dog needs to learn boundaries. This dog barks at people in other people's homes . . . he also finds and chews what he wants and growls to not want to give it back. He is out of the control!
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
22 May 23
@RubyHawk It seems these days people just bring their dogs to people's houses . . . I don't know when that became a thing as no one did that when I was growing up. I don't allow them in here either as we have fur allergies.
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@RubyHawk (99367)
• Atlanta, Georgia
22 May 23
@much2say I wouldn’t allow a dog inside.
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@GardenGerty (169406)
• United States
21 May 23
The person who is "disturbing" the dog should have been handed treats and allowed to befriend and reward the dog when it was calm. The treats should not be given when the dog is barking or has just barked.It does reinforce it.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
21 May 23
Exactly. I think the owner sees it backwards . . . that the treat might make the dog less nervous about the person and he'd stop barking - I don't think it works that way. I don't think the owner is connecting the dots there.
@allknowing (153544)
• India
21 May 23
*lol) Probably yes The dog would perhaps thinks his barking is being appreciated.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
21 May 23
That is what I think too. The owner is the one not making that connection. The dog even barks at her husband this way in their own home!
@jstory07 (148701)
• Roseburg, Oregon
20 May 23
If the dog gets treats for barking it is going to keep on barking.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
21 May 23
The owner is not connecting the dots about that. I think she thinks the dog will feel better about the person he's barking at and stop - but we know it does not work that way.
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