But There's a Flipslide Here, Folks

@porwest (112717)
United States
October 19, 2023 3:37pm CST
Sometimes I get accused of being heartless or have little compassion. It's not true. But I do often take a harsher stance on certain things, or have a different perspective, or at least try to present one. Looting and theft, if anyone has been paying attention to the news, has gotten terribly out of control. Unfortunately, it seems business owners and employees are left a bit with their hands tied. "Just let 'em take what they want," seems to be the mantra these days. But that is also a big part of the reason it IS so out of control. We talk about consequences a lot. And we talk about what happens when there aren't any. There are consequences, for example, for speeding. It won't stop all speeders. But if there were no cops on the highway, it would literally be the autobahn, and everyone would speed. A Game Stop employee confronted a shoplifter and the shoplifter ran from him when the employee pulled a concealed weapon, shot at him, and ultimately killed him. The employee was charged with manslaughter. As he should be, by the way. But this isn't the first time recently that a shoplifter or looter has been killed, and certainly not the first time an employee has tried to take measures to stop the situation. While this shoplifter did not deserve to die just for stealing something, at the same time if more of these things happen, it may leave more would be shoplifters and looters thinking twice about doing what they do. Because maybe the cops won't get you. Maybe the courts won't prosecute you. But perhaps the law isn't what you end up fearing most. A situation like this is tragic on many levels. But also adds a new level of risk to something that, barring an incident like this, otherwise poses no potential real threat to the shoplifter. It doesn't make anything right, here. It's a hell of a way to send a message. But at the same time, it's a more poignant message than the one the LAW is currently providing. If you steal, you may not go to jail. But you very well may die.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/gamestop-employee-charged-with-manslaughter-after-shooting-shoplifter/ar-AA1iw1oA?OCID=ansmsnnews11
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@kaylachan (84699)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
19 Oct 23
George and I witnessed a robbery go down when we were in Ace. Us and the employees were talking about how they might as well help them steel because no one should be a hero. And, how one employee got fired for trying to play hero. What a sad world we live in.
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@kaylachan (84699)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
20 Oct 23
@porwest Agreed. Laws in this country is a joke. And, yet our prison system is overcrowded.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
22 Oct 23
@kaylachan Too many bleeding heart liberal judges and prosecutors, all of them soft on crime.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
20 Oct 23
It's a mess, and an even bigger one in a world where there are virtually no consequences to fear.
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@LadyDuck (502187)
• Italy
20 Oct 23
That employee should have shot at the legs or a non vital part, now he is in troubles. Anyway I agree that if no one would try to stop those shoplifters, the problem would be a lot worse, because most of the time the police does not get them. If they get them they are out in 24 hours... so a lesson is needed to warn the others.
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@LadyDuck (502187)
• Italy
22 Oct 23
@porwest I agree that it's crazy. Surely the employee panicked and unfortunately he shot a fatal shot.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
22 Oct 23
@LadyDuck Something happened, and it didn't go right. At the same time, I am not sure I feel so sorry for the shoplifter, even if that sounds cold for me to say it. When you do bad things, you take on the risk that bad things happen, and the world has enough bad people in it already.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
22 Oct 23
I am sure the employee did not intend to deliver a fatal shot, but a fatal shot he did. Two lives destroyed over shoplifting. It's crazy to me.
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@RebeccasFarm (91299)
• United States
19 Oct 23
That employee..what an idiot..what had he to gain by shooting that kid? I mean a Game Stop employee..not even the owner of a shop, which would still be dumb.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
19 Oct 23
At the same time, I think we've gotten to a strange place in this country where employees forget where their money comes from that pays them. If someone steals from the owner, they are stealing from you potentially as well. They are infringing upon and potentially jeopardizing what is, essentially, your means to making a living. Because if shoplifting were to go COMPLETELY unchecked, eventually the store would go bankrupt, and the employee would lose his job. So, to some extent, an employee should at least be interested in understanding that protecting the business also protects his job. That doesn't mean I necessarily support vigilantism. There is a line to be drawn. And certainly I am not advocating for what happened to this shoplifter either. What exactly was going through the employee's mind when he had the idea that THIS was the course of action appropriate in that situation to take, is BEYOND me how he rationalized that, other than it may have been a simple matter of being in "the heat of the moment." Lots more to this story of course than we will probably ever know. More issues and problems going on with the employee than we may ever understand. Ultimately the shoplifter ended his life because he walked into a store having no fear anything would happen to him if he stole. That's problem #1. And the employee will now suffer consequences not only for his own actions, but the actions of the shoplifter who ultimately fostered the conditions to make the incident possible. Problem #2. Problem #3 is the lack of a solution to either circumstances. Business owners and lawmakers and law enforcement and prosecutors need to all come together to recognize that there is a serious problem here, and it needs to be solved.
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• United States
19 Oct 23
@porwest Pity that is not going to happen not in the least. All this lawlessness, thievery and so on is all engineered.
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@marguicha (230334)
• Chile
19 Oct 23
@porwest It is happening in my country too. I agree with you. Law should be changed if needed. And punishments for people who break the law.
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@JESSY3236 (22199)
• United States
24 Oct 23
That's sad. Yeah Target has closed stores because of stealing has gotten bad. I would never steal anything.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
25 Oct 23
The one sad thing is that a lot of this is happening in poorer areas, and that's hurting the poor even more since when places close it leaves them less options for shopping as WELL as less options for jobs. They are literally shooting themselves in the foot. Granted, a lot of this is organized crime too. But still, it's a HUGE problem that needs a solution for everyone's sake.
@lovebuglena (52144)
• Staten Island, New York
23 Oct 23
It seems that none of these looters and shop lifters are punished for what they did. And if a store employee tries to defend themselves they get punished for it. That is not right at all.
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@lovebuglena (52144)
• Staten Island, New York
23 Oct 23
@porwest and why are shoplifters allowed to just walk in and freely take whatever and walk out as if they are not doing anything wrong?
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
24 Oct 23
and why are shoplifters allowed to just walk in and freely take whatever and walk out as if they are not doing anything wrong? @lovebuglena I don't know. And not to make this a political discussion, you'd have to ask the liberal judges and prosecutors this question. Because THEY are the ones allowing this to happen.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
23 Oct 23
It's wrong on all counts. Employees would NEVER get fired for reporting a coworker stealing or even trying to stop their coworker from stealing. But a shoplifter? It's crazy the world we live in sometimes, and just gets crazier.
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@LindaOHio (222231)
• United States
20 Oct 23
I know what you're saying; and I agree. What????!!! Have a good day.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
20 Oct 23
I know, right? Stranger things have happened though. lol
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