Hit or Miss? It's All About Who's Singing
By Jim Bauer
@porwest (112717)
United States
January 13, 2025 9:14am CST
I have often asked the question, what makes a song a hit or at least successful? Is it always the song, or is it just the person who releases it? Take any Taylor Swift song, and I always pick on her because she's probably the biggest thing in music these days. If anyone else released any of her songs would they take off like they do when she releases them?
I would say no. Not at all. No one would likely ever hear her songs except that everyone will listen to Taylor Swift almost by default.
Take this rather crappy song by Ringo Starr. Not that I can rightfully criticize. I write crappy songs too. NONE of MY crappy songs get nearly 200,000 views in a couple days of release.
But Ringo Starr does, because he's Ringo Starr, even if he was probably the least popular of the Beatles.
What say you? Is it who you are or is it the song?
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
13 Jan 25
I just noticed that and have absolutely no idea how that happened. lol. I was like, WHAT? In any event, I have removed the repeated part.
As for the Stephen King story that's a perfect example. Richard Bachman is Stephen King. But Steven King will get read and Richard Bachman? It's Richard Bachman who?
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
14 Jan 25
@just4him Until people got suspicious at some point and he came out and said it was him. Then suddenly the books flew off the shelves. It makes you think, if they couldn't fly off the shelves when they were by Richard Bachman, why did they fly off the shelves when people realized it was Stephen King? Did the stories suddenly become worth reading just because of who wrote them, or did people only avoid the good story because the person who wrote them was unknown?
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@Marilynda1225 (91013)
• United States
13 Jan 25
I'd have to say it's who you are. I think we're just conditioned to assume that someone as popular as Taylor Swift will have a good song.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
14 Jan 25
This is my sentiment exactly. Valerie reminded me of the Stephen King story when he wrote a few books under the pen name Richard Bachman wondering if his work or his name was what sold his books. The Bachman books did not sell well until he revealed that he was Richard Bachman, and when he did, they became best sellers.
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@Marilynda1225 (91013)
• United States
14 Jan 25
@porwest I've read many Stephen King books but probably would have bypassed them if they were under a different name.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
16 Feb 25
@Marilynda1225 That can be said about a lot of authors. I tended to be more open to new talent, but that was partly due to my editing days for FrightNet Online Magazine where you were exposed to a lot of unknowns who were quite good, and you had a platform to promote them.
Michael Laimo was a big contributor to FrightNet and I even published one of his stories in the anthology Dark Whispers I edited. He was relatively unknown at the time and went on to have two TV movies made from his books, got published several times by our contributing editor, Don D'Auria who was the editor at Dorchester Publishing's Leisure Horror line...
Good talent is out there. Unfortunately, it often takes someone in a position to show it to have it heard or read.
In a place like FrightNet, your work could comfortably sit between other works by more famous authors who were published there like Peter Straub, Douglas Clegg, and people like that.

@porwest (112717)
• United States
13 Jan 25
I tend to think of this often when I hear a great song by an unknown and wonder, what if Dua Lipa did this? Or Swift? Or Lady Gaga? Would it hit? I think a lot of these unknown songs are unknown because the person who wrote and performed them are unknown, and that sometimes a good song becomes a good song in our minds only because we like the performer who does them. Not always, but it does make me wonder sometimes.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
14 Jan 25
@kareng Valerie reminded me of the Stephen King story when he wrote under the pen name Richard Bachman wondering if it was the books or the author selling his books. The Bachman books only became best sellers when he revealed it was him who wrote them. The stories didn't suddenly become better. They were already good. But no one cared because Stephen King's name wasn't on them.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
13 Jan 25
I don't know. I listen to a LOT of great music that lives in the dark shadows. None of it gets heard because the person who wrote it and performed it happens to not be someone famous. At the same time, there are a great many musicians out there like Elton John and Billy Joel that simply wrote great songs. But I do wonder, if someone else wrote and performed Piano Man, would it be the classic it is today without Billy Joel propelling it out to the masses because he was already famous?
I wonder.
Take this song, "Dive." I would take a wild guess that if Taylor Swift wrote and released this song by Lainey Wright, it would be a smash hit. But because it's Lainey Wright, hardly anyone even knows it exists.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
14 Jan 25
Yep. I think that is a HUGE part of it. People are familiar with certain people, and they gravitate towards what they know. It's that simple, really. Few people go looking for what they DON'T know. So, for those talented people who are unknown?
It is MUCH harder for them, even if what they are doing is REALLY good.
I find the same issue when it comes to my blogs. If I am not Shapiro or a part of Breitbart, or have a large platform to publish on? I am practically invisible even if I have a lot to say that is as good or better than what the big guys are saying.
It's just the way it is.
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@JESSY3236 (22199)
• United States
14 Jan 25
I know this is about music, but that song reminds me of the movie Don't Look Up. Have you seen it? It's on Netflix.
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@lovebuglena (52144)
• Staten Island, New York
22 Jan 25
Well, you aren’t Ringo Starr.
But once you’re a big celebrity your stuff will sell out or get views or interactions, etc because of who you are, even if what you put out ain’t that great.
But once you’re a big celebrity your stuff will sell out or get views or interactions, etc because of who you are, even if what you put out ain’t that great.1 person likes this
@lovebuglena (52144)
• Staten Island, New York
26 Jan 25
@porwest that is poetic.
Maybe you’re a star to someone and you just don’t know it.
Maybe you’re a star to someone and you just don’t know it.1 person likes this
@porwest (112717)
• United States
27 Jan 25
@lovebuglena Actually, now that you mention that, I did kind of write that like a short poem. What style would that be called, I wonder?
I guess in a way I am a star. I can't discount my blog or article audience. It's large enough that people pay attention and I guess that's better than nothing, and still rewarding in its own right.
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@dgobucks226 (37621)
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23 Jan 25
In Swifts case she apparently has a lot of talent. The Grammy's speak to her successful songwriting and recording career. I've never heard a Taylor Swift song and have no desire to, but music is in the ear of the listener. And she is extremely successful in the business.
Anyway, if you have established yourself as a star (sorry Ringo), whether current or past, people will always be curious if you put out new music and they will give it a listen. In Swift's case she is at her height of musical popularity, with Ringo it's nostalgia.
And you've never been a Beatle and Ringo was popular. With that head shake and smile who didn't like Ringo, lol.
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@dgobucks226 (37621)
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28 Jan 25
@porwest I did not know that one. I have read comments from other musicians how good Ringo's drumming is. I also read Ringo did not practice. Seems he was ready to go whether in the recording studio or playing live.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
1 Feb 25
@dgobucks226 That is something I have heard too. He was more talented than a lot of people ever gave him credit for. I remember there was one popular YouTube drummer who said he was having an argument with a drummer friend about Ringo being a horrible drummer. He told him, "Sit down and try to play a Ringo arrangement." He couldn't get it right, and he quickly realized he's harder to copy than some of the more "noted" best drummers...because most of the best drummers play them forward.
A drum fill played from left to right is much harder to play for most than right to left, and if you try to do it, it's sort of like using your opposing hand to write with. You can still make the letters, but it's less fluid and less legible.
It makes me wonder, how many left handed drummers are there? And if they ARE left handed drummers do they play left handed? It's like me, I am left handed, but a lot of the things I do are right handed such as batting, pitching, bowling, and even playing guitar.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
26 Jan 25
I won't deny she can sing and that her songs aren't "catchy." I just often wonder if they are popular only because she is rather than whether or not the songs themselves, individually, are as good as the sales and streams would suggest.
But you make all valid points here.
As for Ringo, I actually admire him. If you are musically inclined, you hear certain things in his drumming which makes it rather unique in style...come to find out some years ago he was left-handed, and as Ringo put it, "I drum backwards." lol
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