Has English evolved?
By engineous
@engineous (396)
Australia
March 2, 2007 4:09pm CST
Nowadays, we use text-messaging and when we talk to people via the internet, we use short-spelling and other things to make us finish faster. I lot of people are learning English but, they don't know the rules, ettiqutte and some don't even know how to spell! I think this is an incredibly bad thing for the English Language and must be corrected. So my question to you is; has english involved a lot? Do you like it better now, or where it was before?
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@feralwoman (2199)
• Australia
3 Mar 07
It depends on what context you are using the English language I guess. I see no harm in using shortcuts when texting or on the net between friends. IMO it up to schools to teach English and up to the indivudual to learn it from informative sources. What I really object to is the "americanisation" of words here in Oz and particularly on my pc. It wants to put a "z" in everything that should have an "s" in it. That's what really pi$$e$ me off! lol
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@nowment (1756)
• United States
2 Mar 07
Has english involved a lot? what? involved in what?
Has it evolved which was your first question, I think that many languages when in constant use continue to change in some ways.
We do not speak now as they did in Shakespears time, nor would I want to.
The thees, thous, from the King James Bible are not in use today either.
So language is often changing with the times and cultural aspects of the people using the language, just as early english began to incorporate viking words, and there can be also found a blend of some french from the norman influence in england, you can find slang dictionariers specific to australia, and to england, and to USA, and in the US you will find that even that differs.
My grandmother would say she was going to carry my aunt to the grocery store, does this mean she was carrying the woman around NO. It meant she was going to take her as in give her a ride, she would however help tote the groceries, which meant that she carried the groceries.
Being from the south she had a different way of speaking than I since I am from the north east.
I have never referred to a woman as a sheila but I do know that it is Aussie slang for female.
The word Robot was actually invented for a fictional creation, then robotics came into being as fact. Words for that field were then needed.
As for ettiqette, the etiqette that applies would be the rules set up by where you are at, in the case of mylot, the are listed in the guidelines. For some a topic might be taboo due to cultural origins or country of origin.
For others they could have been raised prior to the computer age, and still spell poorly. It is a fact of life.
In fact while some may not always get things right when they are learning english it has been my experience those with the worst grammer are those who were raised on the english language rather than learning it as a second language.
You wrote " I lot of people are learning English but, they don't know the rules, ettigutte adn some dno't even know how to spell! I think it is incredibly bad thing for the English Language and must be corrected."
Ok so I am correcting you, just what do you mean by
I lot of poeple
Do you mean A lot of people?
I wouldn't worry about it, as you said many are still learning the language, if they have no patience or tolerance or respect for the fact that you still need to learn it, don't let them bother you.
You mentioned that you think itis bad, but really don't be so hard on yourself, it is commendable that you do in fact speak more than one language, I personally have no apptitude for languages and so despite an interest have not been able to learn other languages.
Other than a few things such as the I lot, and rephrasing your question of english involved instead of evolved, you really did fine. So don't think it is so bad.
As far as the short hand for text, it is one thing to use short hand text in chat, but as long as we don't do this in letters, and such then there is nothing wrong with those who have a grasp of the english language using typing short hand.
Where would secretaries be with out steno and shorthand?
It is a tool, but I don't know that it is actually changing the english language.
If it does and we all drop letters it can be a shame, but there was a time, when shop was spelled shoppe
So maybe it is just part of life.
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@lilaclady (28206)
• Australia
2 Mar 07
I think it must be hard for the people trying to learn english especially the older people as things don't come as easy for them, I guess keeping it the same as it was would probably be better for them or then maybe if we just spelt things as they sound could be better for them, I am in two minds about it really....
@dnatureofdtrain (5273)
• Janesville, Wisconsin
5 May 07
I have noticed many through chatrooms pick up the English Text messenging and chatting abbreviations first.. and then later learn the actual words to it, and it helps them remember English words... So no I think it is a good way for them to start,.. but slang there is slang in all languages, that is not taught in classes so its hard for people to understand at first... English is a hard language.. I am born and Grew up with American English, and I still fail at many of the rules...
Yes, English has Evolved and change alot and will continue to do so.. As words have come to English from other languages and cultures as well.... Every language changes somewhat over time...
I am 27 years old.. I like talking the way we do in chats and online, it is easier for me to speak this way... But.. Then and before... I find it fun to learn many languages, many accents, and many different writing styles...
I like it both ways,
- DNatureofDTrain
@Poison_Girl (4150)
• United States
7 May 07
I don't know about anyone else, but I can't use the shortcuts. My hands automatically go to the keys and it slows me down to have to stop and NOT spell something out. I mean, I can do the LOL and stuff like that, but it's the things like r u there? Or crap like that. Know what I mean? Can't do it. I think it's sad that these days, there are SO many people who can't spell! So very sad...
@ESKARENA1 (18260)
•
2 Mar 07
To me English is a living, fluid, dynamic language. It is able to incorporate and change this is one of the many reasons it is used throughout the world
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