All "men" are created equal...... Optimistic quotation at best?

@James72 (26790)
Australia
March 28, 2007 11:21pm CST
This quotation pops up from time to time. Probably best known for its inclusion in the Declaration of Independence but if this is true then why are there such differences in societal, social and economical standings between people in this world? Even if we look at the statement in terms of all "men" being treated as equals, historically and presently this is not the case either as discrimination, corruption and racism have reared their heads in most cultures at some level. What do you believe the statement was meant to represent exactly?
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@lida44 (223)
• Finland
31 Mar 07
The problem that is just the opposite. I d say "All "men" are created different..." From here comes all problems. There are no in planet 2 alike people. Each person is individual, each person has own view of the world, life, things. Thats why equal thing its just the product of civilization while human basicly is just animal. And only after u put on urself thin layer of moral and ethic only then u start to understand and repect the difference of other people. Unfortunately that thin layer is not for everybody, so the quotation u posted is just a pinky dream:)
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
2 Apr 07
I agree with you wholeheartedly! We may be physically similar to a degree but in all other aspects we are vastly different. Thanks for responding.
• Australia
2 Apr 07
There is a sense in which all are created equal. Everyone is born completely helpless and completely dependent on others for everything. While I'd like to think that everyone is born having the same capacity to develop and achieve and make the most of opportunities, I can't see that this is so in reality. It was probably in the minds of those who wrote the Declaration of Independence with the hope that it could become so, but obviously it hasn't. Let's look at the matter of birth. Without even considering those born with mental or physical defects, we can see some have far more opportunities than others. Some babies are born "with a silver spoon in it's mouth" or born to affluent parents, given the highest education and very often, deserving or not, walking into high paying positions. Even within the same country, we see great diversity. For example, in England a child can be born into royalty, nobility, upper class, middle class, lower class or abject poverty. They are very far from equal in anything. When we look at other countries where the vast majority of people are poverty-stricken, uneducated and have little hope of even the smallest of opportunities, we know that babies are not born with anywhere near equal opportunities. There have to be exceptions to every rule, and we thrill when we hear of someone from "the other side of the tracks" making good. These isolated cases make us think that if he did it, everyone could: everyone is born equal, but deep down we know it isn't true. Thankfully, there will always be those who rise above their circumstances, but the vast majority will live according to their circumstances. Is there a remedy? I don't think so. If it were possible for the entire wealth of the whole world - or a nation - or even a community - to be pooled and divided equally, it would not be long before we would once again have all levels of extreme wealth to extreme poverty.
• Australia
3 Apr 07
And thanks for the best response. The first time I returned to England I was amazed at the open class distinction at all levels, but subsequent visits have shown it has decreased somewhat - at least on the surface. It is unavoidable, really.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
3 Apr 07
You are very welcome! Credit where credit is due..... And yes, it is most definitely inevitable. Societal hierarchies will always form no matter where people congregate. Schools, countries, workplaces..... It will never change.
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
3 Apr 07
Very well rounded response Cloudwatcher. I am currently living and working in India and there is no country that best backs up your reasoning concerning diversity than India! There is massive divide between the rich and the poor and that divide is growing. All men are certainly not equal here! Thanks for responding.
• Philippines
29 Mar 07
The idea of this phrase illustrates the natural rights of every human beings on the planet. And not the social or economical standings of every person since each person varies in abilities and talents. We are all equal in natural rights. We are all equal when it comes to our rights to Live, rights to Freedom, rights to Happiness. Although all men are not treated equally our rights still remains to be treated fairly.
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
29 Mar 07
Are we not talking the talk without walking the walk though? Sure, these are our natural rights by default but do these rights as a whole come naturally to us? Thanks for responding.