Voting for a public leader, who does not believe in God?

United States
April 18, 2007 9:10pm CST
Now that we are looking toward our 2008 primaries and voting for a new president I have a question. Could you vote into office of president a person who does not believe in God or someother higher power? We have a law to sperate church and state, but we have "In God we tust" on our money. Lots of wars are faught over religious beliefs, could you vote someone in office who refuses to put his hand on the bible to be sworn into office? I have never seen a public office who has been voted into office that was an open atheist. Have any of you?
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@emeraldisle (13141)
• United States
19 Apr 07
Yes I could vote for someone who doesn't believe in God or a higher power of some sort. I would look at whether they are the most qualified for the job and their religious beliefs do not determine that. What matters is if they are the best candidate based on what they can do for this country. If I thought they were the best then I'd vote for them. It wouldn't matter to me what they believed in when it came to religion. It also wouldn't matter what gender or race they were either. We should not be looking at their religion but they stand for, what they have done in the past in politics, and what they can do for the country in the future.
• United States
19 Apr 07
You are absolutly correct I never thought of it in that way. I have always seen our public leaders being very religious, but why not just give them merrit on what they stand for and what they can do for our county
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@emeraldisle (13141)
• United States
19 Apr 07
Thank you very much. I'm glad you liked the response. Although my religion is personal to me I don't really care what others believe in. I'm more interested in the person. I look at their words and actions for how I interact with them. The same goes for our politians. I don't look to see what their religion is but how they behave.
@havachat (105)
• Australia
19 Apr 07
i dont see why it should matter if you beleive or not, a president or what ever is supposed to be looking after the affairs of the people, not the church, anyway, nobody can prove or disprove there is even a god, so why should that be a pre requisite for the job?
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• United States
19 Apr 07
Some people will disagree with you regarding if there is a god or not
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@fayzah (253)
• United States
19 Apr 07
i would vote for a person who had no religion, its better to seperate religion from politics, this is a major problem we have here in the usa, maybe we would focus then on the real problems in the usa instead of ones religion, and be more tolerant towards others.
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• United States
19 Apr 07
I agree church and state are not seperate but I do not think we will ever have an elected official that is not religious. I think the Catholic church will do something about that. I do believe our leaders should not let the church officials sway their thinking in any way, but I fear that is not true.
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@mmiller26 (1932)
• Canada
19 Apr 07
Actually, I would prefer it. Right now we have a country and a president who are letting religion interfere with politics. You have a whole demographic of people whose rights are being denied because of who they choose to love. And it comes down to religion, because religious types think that homosexuality is an abomination against God. A rational person who was not basing their vote on their faith would realize that you cannot have second-class citizens and that what happens between two consenting adults is their business and would afford them the rights and responsibilities the rest of us enjoy. Church and state have not been seperate in the United States for a long time. I would much prefer someone who uses his head to make laws, and does what's right for the people, not what he thinks God is telling him to do. Bush believes that God talks through him. I suppose God is telling him to fear-monger, endorse torture, set up secret prisons all over the world and detain without trial, destroy good will toward America, bankrupt the country, etc? The church has no place in politics. I'll take a thinker over a believer any day.
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• United States
19 Apr 07
You make a good point regarding gay marriage. I agree gay's should have the same rights to marriage than my husband and I do to merry, and no policitian should stop that.
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@paul8675 (750)
• Australia
19 Apr 07
I live in Australia and I have seen how the country goes under the stewardship of atheists compared to people who acknowledge God. Our country noticably went down the tube under 3 atheist prime ministers in the last 35 years. Under Mr Howard, a devout Christian, our country has done so much better. We are lucky this year to have the choice of 2 devout Christians for PM. I hope this answers your question regarding America. From what I have heard, your country is godless enough already without the wrong person being elected to arguably the highest political office in the world.
@mmiller26 (1932)
• Canada
19 Apr 07
I can see your point, but I also wonder about a president like the one currently in office who claims that God talks directly to him and through him, thereby giving His holy stamp of approval on anything Bush dreams up. Unfortunately there are enough people in the United States who believe this is true that will happily give up their own rights and let the rights of others be trampled because Bush and supposedly God say so.
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@oldiebut (859)
• Canada
19 Apr 07
I wonder if I go and check these prime ministers out, will they actually be atheists? Christians on myLot are so fast and loose with the truth. And a quick bit of research proves that idea again. 1991-1996 Keating: Catholic 1983-1991 Hawke: Christian 1975-1983 Fraser: Deist All three men serve on domestic religious councils. Fraser serves on an international council. It's a bit funny he thinks of the US as a godless country, when it is the most conservative Christian nation in the world. The US is, of course, not ready for an agnostic/atheist leader at this point. They have yet to even elect a Jew, black or woman to the post. There was great consternation of Kennedy simply because he was a Catholic (this is a reflection of the modern Christian control, America's early leaders were, at best, deists). Over the last 50 years the Christian right of the US has tried to put their stamp on everything from money (in god we trust) to control of the educational system (evolution debate, only Turkey among the western nations has a lower acceptance level). This is to be expected though, the US passed from its original framers concepts over a century and a half ago.
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• United States
19 Apr 07
I am so glad you spoke up to tell us all what happened in Australia with three atheist prime misters. Do you think it was the lack of religion that caused the country to go down the tube? I want someone who will do a good job for our county and not mess it up like our present guy.
• Thailand
19 Apr 07
Well, last time you guys, in the States, voted for a man who talks to God. Look what that got you. Maybe it is time to try a different approach.
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• United States
19 Apr 07
You may be right
• Thailand
20 Apr 07
I never said there weren't. I don't think any of the others had little chats with God.
• United States
19 Apr 07
I have absolutely no problem voting for an atheist, the problem is so many people are superficial and are blinded by faith/religion.Especially here in the U.S. Some politicians come out and say they are part of so-and-so religion even if they are not devout, because they need votes. Here in the U.S, if a candidate for presidnecy comes out and says he is an atheist, a lot of bird-brains woudl refuse to vote for him/her because they don't have a religion
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• United States
19 Apr 07
You are absolutly right.
@rubypatson (1842)
• India
19 Apr 07
I Would say thats not a good sign, but I think in the last days all these things will happen
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• United States
19 Apr 07
"The last days"? Seriously, what are you smoking? It's people like you who base the prosperity of a country on rleigion, that make me sick.
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• Malaysia
19 Apr 07
Wow i never seen or heard a public leader who doesnt have God. If ever there will be a candidate, definitely i will not vote her/him. I don't want to offend here but this is my opinion. I don't trust a person with no GOD in his/her heart.
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• United States
19 Apr 07
I agreed at first with you but after reading some of the other remarks I am not sure now. Some of the responses make a lot of sence.
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@chits3 (19)
• India
19 Apr 07
It dosent matter for me whether the person believes in god or not or whether his god is different from mine. What i would be looking in a leader is that whether he has a sense of right and wrong or not. It is of no good if a god fearing person does all the wrong/bad things in office. so i feel it is more important that the person has rights morals rather than god.
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• United States
19 Apr 07
no, i haven't seen one, but i would vote for one if he had the same views on big issues as i did. i don't think religion should have anything to do with politics, and i wouldn't discount a person for the fact that they didn't believe. in fact i would probably gain a lot of respect for them because they had the guts to openly state that they didn't believe in a country where that is so frowned upon.
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• United States
19 Apr 07
My question is: If they didn't believe in God - Why would they be afraid of putting their hand on a Bible?
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• United States
19 Apr 07
Not afraid to put there hand on the Bible but object too. If someone is an aetheist they maybe not believe in the word of christ so they may object to taking an oath to God.
• United States
19 Apr 07
I get upset when people try to get God banned from their schools, want to change wording on things, make a big deal about a Christmas manger in front of a church cause it 'offends them'. They are not respecting MY religion and the freedom you have to choose your religion. If you want to pray - you should be able to pray. If you want to be Christian, Jewish, Catholic - you should be able to be anything you want. But if I believe that than I need to also respect the people who don't believe in God. I'm not sure if I would vote for someone who didn't believe in God. It would depend on what their views and plans for everything else was.
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• United States
19 Apr 07
You make a great point. I believe we need to teach tolerance.
@gemini1960 (1161)
• Philippines
20 Apr 07
i dont think it is wise enough to choose a leader who dont believe in God. What will happen then to the country he/she leads?
@rubiana6 (270)
• Brazil
20 Apr 07
i dont think a politician has necessarily to believe in god to be a good politician. He has to be honest and fair, reliabel and smart. All this you can also be without believing in god, as you can be the opposite and believe in god. Its a question of the character and not of the faith.
@inked4life (4225)
• United States
19 Apr 07
A persons religious beliefs have absolutely no bearing on the job they are elected to do as President in my opinion. The feeling seems to be that someone of faith would be more caring and compassionate than an atheist but one look at the current President's record tell you that is simply not the case.
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@omarking (91)
• Egypt
19 Apr 07
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow. how will he be aleader of ur and dont have god??????????????? or???????????how people for him ? and who will vote for him i think he is a mad man or crazy.and in our country no one can be voted not believa our god Allah..............i think i wont vote for a one who have no god
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@emisle (3823)
• Ireland
19 Apr 07
I think that sometimes religion can actually get in the way. I'd be more concerned with what qualifications the person had, and what they intended to do once they go into office. I saw the first post said that they wouldn't trust someone who didn't have God in their heart. But just because you don't believe in a higher power, doesn't mean that you are not a good person, and that you don't care about other people.
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@dbeast (1498)
• India
19 Apr 07
i have never seen anyone sworn into any higher authority who has been an atheist but i would definitely support one.this is simply because the leader will have more self belief in himself than look into God during his troubles.and as you said there will not be any religious sentiments and no paritiality with decisions which are meant to be taken and there will also be no bias towards and religion.
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• Indonesia
19 Apr 07
being persident got nothin to do with believe in god or not, the most important thing to be a president is you have to know how run a country, listen to your people, n do anythin u can to give what your people need
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