12 Year Old Boy Beheads American Spy - I've Heard It All Now - Wow!

United States
April 21, 2007 2:08pm CST
I had thought I had seen and heard the worse of the worse, but this brings man's inhumanity to man, down to a new level. These people are indeed evil and will stoop to allowing a 12 year old boy to partake in these dastardly deeds. The boy with the knife looks barely 12. In a high-pitched voice, he denounces the bound, blindfolded man before him as an American spy. Then he hacks off the captive's head to cries of "God is great!" and hoists it in triumph by the hair. A video circulating in Pakistan records the grisly death of Ghulam Nabi, a Pakistani militant accused of betraying a top Taliban official who was killed in a December airstrike in Afghanistan. An Associated Press reporter confirmed Nabi's identity by visiting his family in Kili Faqiran, their remote village in southwestern Pakistan. The video, which was obtained by AP Television News in the border city of Peshawar on Tuesday, appears authentic and is unprecedented in jihadist propaganda because of the youth of the executioner. The footage shows Nabi making what is described as a confession, being blindfolded with a checkered scarf. "He is an American spy. Those who do this kind of thing will get this kind of fate," says his baby-faced executioner, who is not identified. What are your thoughts? Have we now reached a new low? Lloyd
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@fpd1955 (2075)
• United States
21 Apr 07
When the youth of any one group is taught hatred and killing in the name of God, it is an atrocity. The Jihad is insuring their legacy of terrorism continues through their children. Each time I hear of a different way they kill for their cause, makes me realize that terrorism is never going away. All we, as humans, can do is instill the right values in to our own youths, and live our own lives by these values. We need to teach tolerance, kindness and compassion. We need to be sure hatred of anyone is not a value we instill in them. Most people, including myself, will never understand how a 12 year old boy can do such a haneous act. Just as we cannot understand how young adults and teens in America can kill their classmates. There is so much violence in America. These violent acts are just as haneous as the act committed by this 12 year old member of the Jihad. Most of us can never imagine committing an act such as this. It is up to us to insure that our children grow up with the proper values to make this world a more peaceful place. Sorry if I am rambling here. But in answer to your question, each act of violence we learn of seems, to me, to be a new low. By no means do I wish do diminish the graveness of this act. Considering the evilness of the Jihad, this is certainly shocking, but to me, not surprising. PEACE
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• United States
21 Apr 07
You are not rambling at all. You bought up some very good points in respect to the violence here in America. For a 12 year old boy to take part in such a terrible killing, it shows that the terrorists have no morals at all. Lloyd
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• United States
24 Apr 07
Thanks for the positive words of encouragement. Lloyd
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• United States
21 Apr 07
I feel compelled to ask: Who is "we" ???
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@fpd1955 (2075)
• United States
21 Apr 07
I'm guessing here, but I think Lloyd means human beings.
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• United States
21 Apr 07
By "we", I meant humans in general. No way did I mean the people of the United States or any civilized society. I hope this cleared that up. Lloyd
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• United States
21 Apr 07
Yes, that is a new low. It's sickening and scary to think what the world is coming to.
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@LittleMel (14032)
• Canada
21 Apr 07
you remember those people who speak of human rights for prisoners in the US? I want to know what these people would say about how US prisoners or any Caucasian prisoners are treated in the middle east. Prisoners are prisoners, no matter where they are, they are humans too. Why is it that nobody said anything about how prisoners or even civilians are treated in the middle east, but when a middle eastern prisoners are treated badly in the US, people screamed about human rights? If I were the president, an eye for an eye is what I'll call fair.
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• United States
21 Apr 07
I think the reason that there is such an uproar over the treatment of prisoners in the United States is because we are - rightly or wrongly - held to a higher standard. We aren't supposed to treat prisoners like they are in some middle eastern prison camp. We have many laws that establishes how prisoners should be treated. Hope this helps. Lloyd
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• United States
25 Apr 07
I'm confused. What do you mean? Lloyd
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@ironstruck (2299)
• Canada
21 Apr 07
Those people have been at a new low for a long time. This is really no surprise. It is easy to brainwash the young and misguided in any culture.
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• United States
21 Apr 07
I truly feel sorry for the people of this culture if this is what their youth is being taught. Lloyd
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• United States
21 Apr 07
we???you mean moslims i presume?
• United States
21 Apr 07
By "we" I'm refering to the terrible people who commit the terrible killings. No way was I referring to the people of the United States or any civilized society. Sorry for not making that clearer. Lloyd
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@naty1941 (2336)
• United States
21 Apr 07
This is horrible. Is the child an orphan brainwashed by others? Where are the parents? Imagine what that 12 year old is going to grow up into. Another terrorist.
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• United States
21 Apr 07
12 Year Old Killer - This a picture of the 12 year old boy seen in the video beheading an accused American spy.
I've been trying to find out more information on the backround of this 12 year old killer, but haven't found anything. The father of the man that was beheaded wants to seek revenge agaist the Taliban. He had some very harsh words for them. He better be careful. Lloyd
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@honchung (40)
• Malaysia
25 Apr 07
wow..u spy? i am living in an islamic country.. hopefully not terrorist country..
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• United States
25 Apr 07
I hope you country isn't harboring terrorist. There's more to life than vengence. Lloyd
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• India
23 Apr 07
Really astonishing how people carry down and hand down vengence and hatred down the generations. How humanity is dieing at an unbelievable rate. People must understand that passing on such hatred to young hearts is not only a crime toward humanity bt also a big crme toward innocence... PLease lets raise our voice against it MAy GOD Bless YOU
• United States
25 Apr 07
Thank you for your excellent reply. There is no need to hand this hatred down from one generation to the other. LLoyd
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@munhozmib (3838)
• Sao Paulo, Brazil
22 Apr 07
New low? New low is what happened in Brazil: a 10 Year old boy cut off a 3 year old kid head. By his own! That is a new low. You know what? That kid must be treated as an Assassin, not as a kid. That kid must pay for his sins. They should do like in the old times: Cut off the kid's hand. And then, threat his mother, so she won't have a baby again. That's what should happen. If the crimes are getting to a new low, the world should take actions! I doubt that, if that kid lost it's hand, he would try to kill anybody again. I doubt.
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• United States
25 Apr 07
Wow. I didn't hear about the boy in Brazil. When did this happen? What exactly would you like to see happen to this 12 year old boy? Lloyd
@munhozmib (3838)
• Sao Paulo, Brazil
25 Apr 07
Well, I am not quite sure of when it happened. It was some months ago, but it was this year. Well, I'd like to see the parents of this kid losing his guard. Then, the kid should go to a reliable treatment centre, in wich he'd receive a special treatment to cure his sickness. Or, receive a good education.
@JC1969 (1226)
• United States
22 Apr 07
My thoughts are that this is a form of child abuse, and a true crime against innocent children. I just recently watched the movie "Blood Diamond", and that movie depicts how a group can indeed capitalize on brainwashing very young children to carry out their dirty work. I believe that is the new low that is being carried out in those groups. See I refrain from saying in society on a whole, because I don't believe it is a whole nation or country that agrees with pursuing that type of tactic, but rather isolated groups that find it easier to manipulate through fear the young minds of children. We know, psychologically speaking, that children are impressionable and when they are raised to believe that a certain way is the only and correct way, then it is easy to convince them to do what we think is horrific, but these young children are being taught that it is important for their faith that they do this. It's like a cult that brainwashes them. Look at our own American society, look at the 'gangs' and we have the same exact example of what this 12 year old boy did. How many times do we hear on the news about some young boy or girls involvement in a gang related shooting, and we think OMG that can't be right. But it is the same thing, children being raised in an environment where a certain teaching or behavior is encouraged as acceptable or the only way to survive. It makes it that much easier for them to commit the horrific crimes that they do. I don't think we have reached a new low, because all one has to do is research wars of the past to know that the common tool of war that was used, was recruiting the very young to fight the adult battle. It was and is a form of psychological warfare, because in our society on a large scale we do try for the most part to allow our children to grow up in happy and healthy environments, whereas other cultures do not always hold the same standards for children. Again, this is definitely a crime against children in those cultures.
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@JC1969 (1226)
• United States
26 Apr 07
It was the same when I was growing up. We were less dependent on our parents to taxi us around, and walked everywhere we needed to go or rode bikes. The block I lived on was very close-knit, and the older kids always looked after us younger ones, and as we got older we did the same. We lived for the roller rink on Friday nights, Saturday matinees at the local movie, the video arcades, ice skating in the winter, babysitting for the neighbors...etc. We were taught about the 'red-light' man (today they call it stranger danger) and that we shouldn't talk to strangers, take candy from them--and when we thought about dangers, we never thought about other children carrying out such violence.
• United States
22 Apr 07
Yes, this is a new low. A new low for us. We don't kow how long this has been going on. However, Americans have reached a new low, too. We are slowly losing our privacy and our freedom due to American paranoia. Look at police brutality. I think it has taken a lot of people a long time to see what that exists and that it has existed for a long time. The police have been untouchable for as long as I can remember. Sure, that boy beheaded the man and that is gruesome. However, American police officers shoot to kill if you are the wrong color or from the wrong country. It should not matter, but those wondering, I am white.
• United States
25 Apr 07
We sure have lost a lot of our privacy since 9/11. I don't think most of it is justified. I wonder what the founding fathers would think of the situation here in the United States today. I think they would prosecute and convict this current administration on various charges. Lloyd
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• United States
26 Apr 07
You are so right!
@Calais (10898)
• Australia
22 Apr 07
Oh, of course. Its disastrous, and unfortuntely its only going to get worse. I think put all of them in lockdown and let them kill each other. What can I say. They are evil, I totally agree with you. I dont know what intrudes in peoples minds to make them want to be so visciuos.
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• United States
25 Apr 07
I just can't come to grips with this behavior. I see 12 year old kids in my neighborhood skateboarding, riding bikes and hanging out at the mall. I don't think any of them could behead a person. Lloyd
@Calais (10898)
• Australia
25 Apr 07
I know, But its so scarey still.
@Stiletto (4582)
22 Apr 07
Who knows what other terrible things this 12 year old child has witnessed and participated in. As for your question "have we now reached a new low?" sadly there is nothing new about children being coerced by adults into committing acts of violence for political reasons or becoming active combatants in violent conflicts. The UN produced a report last year that estimated 300,000 combatants under age 18 are illegal recruits in more than 30 conflicts around the world - some as young as 6 years old. Usually these children are made to commit serious crimes alongside adults and this is by no means confined to the Middle East. Countries include Darfur, The Congo, Sierra Leone, Nepal and Colombia and then of course there's Rwanda in the 90's where hundreds of children were imprisoned in the aftermath of the conflict accused of participation in genocide and crimes against humanity. So tragically it's not "new" but it's rare for us to actually witness with our own eyes a child committing this sort of terrible act. Unlike others I wouldn't question your use of the term "we". The effects of conflict on children around the world is devastating whether they are actively involved or innocent bystanders and as fellow human beings we should all feel a responsibility to address that issue and acknowledge the part the "civilized countries" play in allowing that situation to continue.
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• United States
22 Apr 07
What Stiletto said. Great post. I also wanted to say that it's easy for us to say how horrible it is for people to teach their children to hate while failing to notice that we are teaching our children to hate. They (wrongly) feel justified in doing it. So do we.
• United States
22 Apr 07
Thank you for your well thought out reply. I agree with you 100%. I couldn't have explained it any better. Lloyd
@kiwikidz (753)
• New Zealand
22 Apr 07
This if it is true is a very sickening look at where the world is heading. I also read an article the other day where school children murdered their teacher because she wouldn't let a boy read a certain piece of literature in class, I think this was religion based. I saw a few videos shown on the news about youths abusing their teachers which were shown on UTUBE, I find this site is really stirring up youths to do things they shouldn't be getting away with and I feel personally that the site should either be closed down or monitored a bit better, before it gets really out of hand. It started out as a bit of fun but now who knows where it will end.
• United States
25 Apr 07
I just hope the majority of the people in the world will see what's going on and nip this in the bud. We can't go on this way for much longer. Lloyd
@blueman (16513)
• India
22 Apr 07
i saw it over the news yesterday, you can imagine how much the kid needs to be brain washed to do such thing.
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• United States
25 Apr 07
Deep down inside, I know he is having nightmares about what he has done. Lloyd
@Woodpigeon (3710)
• Ireland
22 Apr 07
I don't even think it is a 'new' low, sadly. I thnk in some parts of the world, twelve year old boys re a little different then my 12 year old boy who is asleep upstairs. I have no doubt about the authenticity of the video or about the child's age. It is my understanding that certain terrorist groups have summer camps that begin recruiting much younger than 12. I am not going to name any names, but there is one that stars with H which is very popular and children are taught all the principals, ideals, and slogans from a very young age.
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• United States
25 Apr 07
How could these mothers and fathers be so brainwashed? What kind of parent would send their child to a terrorist summer camp? Lloyd
@liranlgo (5748)
• Israel
22 Apr 07
I wonder where did you see this video. I am not really surprised. i do know a lot of examples of using children to do things, especially in our territory. There were a lot of terrorism attacks that were held by terrorists that took a child and used him as a bate. It is very common in a few countries that surround my country. The security people are not suspecting that a child will get into a country with bombs on his body and will explode himself, and that is why it always works. Yes. I do think that the world and a lot of people are sick for doing so. But i also know that it works, and they will continue to do so.
• United States
25 Apr 07
I did not see the video and would never watch something like that. I only read the text from CNN. I'm sorry to hear that you live in a region that has that type of thing going on. Where are you from? LLoyd
• United States
22 Apr 07
That is just sick. It is bad enough that this sort of thing is going on...but to involve a young child like that? How barbaric and disgusting can you get? That just absolutely sickens me. How can a 12 year old child even do a thinkg like that? How do they have it IN them to do such a thing?
• United States
25 Apr 07
This just shows you how out of touch with reality these people are. Lloyd
@roger_bv (17)
• Philippines
22 Apr 07
this is horrible.....survival of the fittest as they say. in this kind of news,it saddened me to know that even young human beings were taught how to hate.taught how to kill. we should teach our young generation how to love instead of hate.
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• United States
25 Apr 07
It's amazing that we haven't evolved into a more caring society that values life. Lloyd
@lilaclady (28224)
• Australia
22 Apr 07
I think this heart wrenching for that poor man, and the very thought of a child with so much to be able to do this proves I think that the world is beyond repair, I think it really is time for all people who do not belong in these countries to come home, there is no point to trying to save people who do not wish to be saved, but leave with no shame we tried that is all the rest of the world can do....I judt feel so for that poor man.
• United States
25 Apr 07
I know I would never accept an assignment in that region. I hope that the world in not beyond repair, but I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel. Lloyd