Our schools system--are kids really learning?
By pyewacket
@pyewacket (43903)
United States
April 25, 2007 1:20am CST
I'm not a mom unfortunately..but I do feel for parents who want the best for their children..so my question is..are kids really learning anything anymore? You hear of how schools are so over-crowded that each class is packed to overflowing so teachers can't give the individual attention to each child that say maybe we had as kids in school--you hear that kids are being left back cause they can't read or do the most simplistic of math problems--and sometimes diagnosed as having learning problems...but is it any wonder with way most school systems are?
Like I said I'm not a parent but it does concern me how today's parents are coping with all this..what is the answer? You think maybe children would be better off being taught at home where they COULD get the individual attention they need? Just curious about your opinions
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@ESKARENA1 (18260)
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25 Apr 07
im a mother of two primary age children and in my opinion the education system is serving its primary function, destroying all ambition, creating a subservient and maliable work force, little more. Truth be told if any other element of the state had the failure rate that the education service has, it would have been closed down years ago.
It is a sad indictment to modern society that we are still content to teach our children only enough so they are able to follow orders and provide a sustained income for owners and share holders.
Teaching children at home has, unfortunately, to be cleared by the same people who run the education system so the values to be inculcated (inherent within the national curriculuum) remain the same.
In darker moments, i turn to Ivan Illich's clasic text, Deschooling society, because only by ridding the world of the all-pervasive inculcation of values, that go hand in hand with education will we break out from this tyranny. I mean why is knowledge still broken down in to subjects? why not just encourage the aquisition of knowledge and let the child decide what is important?
In my opinion, the answer is simple, free knowledge is power
thank you for allowing me to rant
blessed be
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@ESKARENA1 (18260)
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25 Apr 07
absolutely correct. I myself left our esteemed education system without any qualifications but ended up with a phd because its what i wanted to do
great topic btw
blessed be
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
25 Apr 07
Rant anytime...
And yes, maybe kids have to be taught some of the basics to "survive" in this world...but it would help if kids could learn what they are really interested in, and may be of a more importance to the learning process in general...Remembering back to my days..I particularly hated my high school years...thought they were the most boring...being taught geometry, algebra...like am I using that in my life now....nope...it's one thing if a child genuinely loves subjects like that...I hated hated hated my high school years..yet once I got into college it was a whole new experience since "I" got to choose what subjects I wanted to learn, and wasn't dictated to what to learn...as a result my grade average soared...in high school I was a D average student --in college I graduated with a 3.98 index..just a tad short of a perfect 4.0...big difference..but all because I was finally learning what I wanted to learn
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@susieq223 (3742)
• United States
26 Apr 07
As a former school teacher and a current tutor, I would have to say I don't think kids are learning what they need in school. Unfortunately, there is no easy or simple remedy to fix the problems in the schools. I do think home schooling is better in many cases, but there are many drawbacks to that also. Small, private schools are usually good, but are expensive. I, too, feel for the parents of today's children.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
26 Apr 07
I know a lot of parents here that do send there kids to a private school, especially the local Catholic schools even if they're not Catholic so to say just to get the better education and are a lo more advanced than public schools--but even they are overcrowded now--and yes, they are horribly expensive
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@byfaithonly (10698)
• United States
25 Apr 07
I have been blessed in this area. In the area we live we pay the highest taxes in the area but have the greatest school system as a result. Our classes aren't over crowded and the students get all the individual attention they need. If there is a problem the school will arrange for special tutoring, classes, or work to help the individual and are great at working with special circumstances.
I do know of many many schools that don't provide all that our schools do though and in those cases do believe often home schooling would provide better for the student.
@sumofalltears (3988)
• United States
26 Apr 07
The school system here is really bad, mostly because of the way the school day is structured. They have regular school hours, but the only have four classes a day. That means they are in a class for nearly 90 minutes same class every day. That is a long class and just asking for trouble if you ask me, Granted they change subjects mid term but still for classes or subjects you don't like in the first place it is an agony to go though.
Children should learn things that are of interest to them, within reason of course. If they are interested in math give them math, if they like science give them science and challenge them to learn don't force them to memorize. There is a difference.
Different interests for different people and the same is true for children. A good teacher can teach not just one subject but several and tie them aall up together with a nice neat little diploma.
Smaller classes would be nice, but you can dvide a class into groups and work with each group part of the time. The school system can be improved upon if the system tries. I would advocate parental participation for a period of time as mandatory. Parents need a little exposure to understand what their children are going through.
@sumofalltears (3988)
• United States
26 Apr 07
Thanks for the best response vote...I really appreciate it...:}
@demo3424 (598)
• India
26 Apr 07
i think in schools the ratio of students and teacher is becoming greater due to which some students feel neglected.so the parents look for alternatives such as private tuitions where individual attention to each child is given.also parents teach their own child.
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@byfaithonly (10698)
• United States
25 Apr 07
I've seen schools do this - my ex-husband worked at a technical college and we were shocked at how many of the students had high school diplomas but couldn't read simple text books. It was because of that - just pushing them forward pushing them forward and not taking the time to actually teach them what they needed to learn.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
25 Apr 07
Actually I feel sorry not only for the kids, but for teachers in general..there are some bad apple teachers out there who just don't care...but then there are a lot who do genuinely care, and who do want to help kids learn, but are so pressured since the majority of the time the classes are so overcrowded that individual attention isn't granted...the most number of kids in a classroom when I was a kid was a mere twenty or twenty five..today?? Thirty, thirty - five, maybe more..of course it may be different in smaller communities or towns..But I'm in NY were classroom range about fifty kids per classroom
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@Woodpigeon (3710)
• Ireland
26 Apr 07
I think another question to ask is if they are learning enough. It really hit home to me how much time is being wasted in schools when we went away and took the work that the teacher figured the kids would ned to cover over the days they were away. This has happened several times and it has always been the same.
We do a load of work and it isn't challengeing. Much of it is simply repetitive. I call I 'busywork'.
Having kids that have now been in the system for many years, and having had to call in for one reason or another, it is plain the etachers are doing a lot of, "Please sit down/be quiet/get stared/pay attention" and the kids that are ready to work and learn are just spinning their wheels waiting for the rowdy element to settle down.
Needless to say, we do lot of extraciricular work, reading and activities to make up for anything I don't think they are getting enough of at school.







